No one compared him to amauri it was simply said that the deal feels like Amauri, paying a lot and the flop potential is there
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He said dybala was the best player HE faced, he wasn't saying Dybala was the best defender in the world.
Nothing wrong with what he said.
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Finally someone with common sense
But if Dybala has technique, good dribbling and good pass, he will be of use.
If he can turn all of that into goals, then we will be fine.
How does it feel like Amauri?
Clearly every deal has flop potential. C. Ronaldo could have flopped for Madrid after they spent 80 mil on him.
I really don't get the "flop potential" worry... Every deal over 30mil has much higher potential risk for a loss, considering the investment involved. Chelsea spent 50 mil on Torres. Madrid spent 90 mil on Bale. Barca spent 85 mil on Suarez. United 75 mil on Di Maria. Iturbe for 25 mil to Roma. Immobile for 20 mil to Borussia. Fellaini for 30 mil to United. Jovetic for 30 mil to City. And on and on and on. All these players have flopped thus far when it looked at from a performance vs cost perspective. Every big deal has "flop potential." There is no such thing as a deal that is guaranteed to be a hit for the club.
Do people expect us never to invest in an expensive player? Because the only way to avoid a potential big loss on a player is to not buy expensive players.
The good thing with Dybala is that he is young enough to resell for a decent sum even if he flops here. If we buy a 26 year old for 40 mil and he flops here, his resale value at 28/29 is nothing.
Clearly every deal has flop potential. C. Ronaldo could have flopped for Madrid after they spent 80 mil on him.
I really don't get the "flop potential" worry... Every deal over 30mil has much higher potential risk for a loss, considering the investment involved. Chelsea spent 50 mil on Torres. Madrid spent 90 mil on Bale. Barca spent 85 mil on Suarez. United 75 mil on Di Maria. Iturbe for 25 mil to Roma. Immobile for 20 mil to Borussia. Fellaini for 30 mil to United. Jovetic for 30 mil to City. And on and on and on. All these players have flopped thus far when it looked at from a performance vs cost perspective. Every big deal has "flop potential." There is no such thing as a deal that is guaranteed to be a hit for the club.
Do people expect us never to invest in an expensive player? Because the only way to avoid a potential big loss on a player is to not buy expensive players.
The good thing with Dybala is that he is young enough to resell for a decent sum even if he flops here. If we buy a 26 year old for 40 mil and he flops here, his resale value at 28/29 is nothing.
Stacked. 
Only one over analyzing rugani's statement is you though
He was asked who the toughest player he had to mark was. Of every one he played against it was dybala.
Only one over analyzing rugani's statement is you though
He was asked who the toughest player he had to mark was. Of every one he played against it was dybala.
The point is that it really doesn't matter who we spend 30 mil on, we could get ripped a new one $$$$ with any signing. Even a player everyone on the forum thought was a sure thing could flop for any number of reasons.
How about we trust our current management's evaluation of talent and not worry so much. They've done a pretty damn good job so far. If they think Dybala is worth 30 mil +, I trust them.
How about we trust our current management's evaluation of talent and not worry so much. They've done a pretty damn good job so far. If they think Dybala is worth 30 mil +, I trust them.
Messi without a shadow of a doubt. I'll always have the 50-70 goals a season striker, not mentioning his yearly assists.
It goes without saying that Del piero is closer to my heart but as footballers Messi and to slightly less extent Ronaldo are in a world of their own.
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Messi without a shadow of a doubt. I'll always have the 50-70 goals a season striker, not mentioning his yearly assists.
It goes without saying that Del piero is closer to my heart but as footballers Messi and to slightly less extent Ronaldo are in a world of their own.
It goes without saying that Del piero is closer to my heart but as footballers Messi and to slightly less extent Ronaldo are in a world of their own.
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Messi without a shadow of a doubt. I'll always have the 50-70 goals a season striker, not mentioning his yearly assists.
It goes without saying that Del piero is closer to my heart but as footballers Messi and to slightly less extent Ronaldo are in a world of their own.
You are missing something out. The probability that a player who has had one good season to have another good one is very much lower than the probability that a player who has had 3 consecutive good seasons to have another good one. Everyone involves an element of risk either through injury or through team collapse of through personal life problems or through inexplicable loss of skill like torres. But that doesn't mean that some purchases are more guaranteed than others.
Amauri was bought after one good season, though the rest of his career before and after that was very under-whelming. It is in that sense that he had a bad ratio of cost to risk.
Torres on the other hand carried a substantial injury risk but a very little performance risk. Funnily enough, what screwed Chelsea was not the aspect that had a higher probability of occurring but rather he is a rare case where the event with the lower probability occurred.
Bale, Suarez and to a less extent Di-Maria, have a record of consistency at a very high performance level. Thats why they will probably come good.
Dybala and others like firmino and anderson have no record because they are just way too young. Thats why they will naturally be cheaper today than they would be 3 years from now assuming they maintain the same performance level. But if you do buy them today, the probability that their next season is good is lower than what that probability would be had they been performing on that level for years.
In all cases, you are trying to predict the future on the basis of the past. The past is usually a good indicator of the future just not a perfect indicator. The smaller the past record the less resources your statistical tools have to work with and the less accurate your predictions are going to be. Hence, players with no past are cheaper while those with a good past are more expensive. This is one element among others that goes into pricing ofcoarse.
Amauri was bought after one good season, though the rest of his career before and after that was very under-whelming. It is in that sense that he had a bad ratio of cost to risk.
Torres on the other hand carried a substantial injury risk but a very little performance risk. Funnily enough, what screwed Chelsea was not the aspect that had a higher probability of occurring but rather he is a rare case where the event with the lower probability occurred.
Bale, Suarez and to a less extent Di-Maria, have a record of consistency at a very high performance level. Thats why they will probably come good.
Dybala and others like firmino and anderson have no record because they are just way too young. Thats why they will naturally be cheaper today than they would be 3 years from now assuming they maintain the same performance level. But if you do buy them today, the probability that their next season is good is lower than what that probability would be had they been performing on that level for years.
In all cases, you are trying to predict the future on the basis of the past. The past is usually a good indicator of the future just not a perfect indicator. The smaller the past record the less resources your statistical tools have to work with and the less accurate your predictions are going to be. Hence, players with no past are cheaper while those with a good past are more expensive. This is one element among others that goes into pricing ofcoarse.
Hist is right. There's some pretty silly things said about him in relation to all-time greats. And I'm one of Morata's biggest fans. Someone said he's already better than Cavani and Ibra. 
yep, messi is a few realms under him, Cassano (Roma) level at best
. but seriously, you cant compare players from different eras so easily. you have to take all factors into consideration. the strength of the era (Del Pieros > Messis), the strength of the league (DPs > Messis), the strength of your team compared to other teams of that era (Barcelona /and Spain, which shows what a team Messi had around him/ 2008-2012 was too strong for any other team of that time), the quality of other great players from your era (again. DPs era > Messis), the style of play your team uses and the teams use against you (DP had it much harder), the number of great teams/rivals you had (DPs > Messis) etc. ofcourse, if you look at stats only, Messis career seems more impressive, but thats not the way players should be compared. in fact, there is no way we can compare them, there can only be preferences and opinions on who is better/greater/whatever.heres a thought for example, imagine Del Piero in the 2008-20012 Barcelona instead of Messi, and see the result (IMO DP still wouldnt score as much as Messi, simply because he plays differently, but i think they wouldnt lose to Inter 2010 and Chelsea 2012 with DP-Etoo/Ibra/Villa upfront, also that 2012 classico had Del Piero written all over it, hes the type of player to decide such games). also try to imagine messi in any Juve team (Lippis, Capellos, Serie B, post Calciopoli) Del Piero played in.
taking the factors into consideration i mentioned above, Del Piero is definitely the better football player to me, but Messi achieved more (individually) due to given circumstances, not superiority in talent/quality.
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