Paul Pogba (158 Viewers)

[Fred]

Barcelona is the only club id hate to see him at. Hope he picks Real if he ever leaves

He is more suited to Barca though. I'm sure he'd love to link up with his compatriot Messi and with Neymar too.

It won't happen though, I think Messi and Suarez still have years of top level football in them.

 

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[il brutto]

Barcelona is the only club id hate to see him at. Hope he picks Real if he ever leaves

Didn't you want Pogba at Real too? If so are you sure you are supporting the right team? or are you perhaps Florentino Perez in disguise?

 

[Seven]

He is. Though if Cesc is back to his form, he gives him a run for his money.

The love still runs deep

Cesc likes that sour Mourinho dick now.

 

[Hydde]

Didn't you want Pogba at Real too? If so are you sure you are supporting the right team? or are you perhaps Florentino Perez in disguise?

He is super obssesed with Pogba. He is like his new Del Piero.

 

[zizinho]

Didn't you want Pogba at Real too? If so are you sure you are supporting the right team? or are you perhaps Florentino Perez in disguise?

I hate Barcelona, thats all and IF our players leave, id rather see them in Real, United, Bayern or even PSG than Barca

 

[Xperd]

He is super obssesed with Pogba. He is like his new Del Piero.

And it's pretty annoying or rather irritating

 

[Hydde]

And it's pretty annoying or rather irritating

Is more than irritating. Is lame as fuck.

 

[il brutto]

I hate Barcelona, thats all and IF our players leave, id rather see them in Real, United, Bayern or even PSG than Barca

I don't care where our players go if they decide to leave us but Pogba going to United rather than Real is definitely better for us.

 

[InterMerda]

I don't care where our players go if they decide to leave us but Pogba going to United rather than Real is definitely better for us.

Definitely my friend. Man u won't see CL football for a while and Real is already pretty strong as it currently is.

 

[Hydde]

Yeh,

In real we could have run the risk of him clicking in the team and making an already strong team even more annoying.

 

[v1rtu4l]

People who say Veratti is as good as he is probably don't watch the latter that much. While he is definitely a top talent, he is nowhere near as dominant as Pogba is, and he suffers from the same consistency issues too.

can you explain to me how this "dominant" performance of pogba is actually measurable ? is dominant to you, when the player scores a long strike or set's up a goal while needlessly slowing down the chance of counter attacks by dribbiling instead of playing the ball to the unmarked team mate ?

i always thought that you would be one of the smarter posters that realizes that good football is not scoring once in a game after player casper the invisible ghost but constantly helping the team which i do see verratti do and i seldomly saw pogba do. if you go by the numbers then you would think verratti should have a much lower pass success percentage if he really struggled with consistency, but i guess more than 90% pass completion and several key passes per game is not enough to compete when you are not black, a big mouth shouting at team mates and score wonder goals every blue moon.

i guess Pogba really dominates with his 2.2 tackles per game ... oh wait verratti has 2.7 .. so where is pogbas dominance, if he does less defensive work and does misplace more passes (only 82% pass success compared to verrattis 91%). so perhaps he somehow helps the team in another way, perhaps by always being available as pass station, yeah, Pogba manages 42 passes a game while Verratti 82 passes per game.

i totally get that a youtube compilation of pogba is way more entertaining than one of verratti, but in terms of being good for the team or dominating games i can not see how you can dominate a game by basically having only 50% of the amount of passes of an allegedly "inconsistent" player (Verratti) and misplacing 10% more balls than the incosistent player.

i know football is not numbers, but it's not like we are saying "this guy has one percent more here or there" these differences are huge and build the chasm between a player who will "add" to a functioning game (and adding something to a team that already works is not dominating, that is like saying filippo inzaghi dominated games) and a player who IS the personified game.

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He is more suited to Barca though. I'm sure he'd love to link up with his compatriot Messi and with Neymar too.

lol. barcas players would rip him a new one if he played as selfishly as he usually does.

 

[Hydde]

can you explain to me how this "dominant" performance of pogba is actually measurable ? is dominant to you, when the player scores a long strike or set's up a goal while needlessly slowing down the chance of counter attacks by dribbiling instead of playing the ball to the unmarked team mate ?

i always thought that you would be one of the smarter posters that realizes that good football is not scoring once in a game after player casper the invisible ghost but constantly helping the team which i do see verratti do and i seldomly saw pogba do. if you go by the numbers then you would think verratti should have a much lower pass success percentage if he really struggled with consistency, but i guess more than 90% pass completion and several key passes per game is not enough to compete when you are not black, a big mouth shouting at team mates and score wonder goals every blue moon.

i guess Pogba really dominates with his 2.2 tackles per game ... oh wait verratti has 2.7 .. so where is pogbas dominance, if he does less defensive work and does misplace more passes (only 82% pass success compared to verrattis 91%). so perhaps he somehow helps the team in another way, perhaps by always being available as pass station, yeah, Pogba manages 42 passes a game while Verratti 82 passes per game.

i totally get that a youtube compilation of pogba is way more entertaining than one of verratti, but in terms of being good for the team or dominating games i can not see how you can dominate a game by basically having only 50% of the amount of passes of an allegedly "inconsistent" player (Verratti) and misplacing 10% more balls than the incosistent player.

i know football is not numbers, but it's not like we are saying "this guy has one percent more here or there" these differences are huge and build the chasm between a player who will "add" to a functioning game (and adding something to a team that already works is not dominating, that is like saying filippo inzaghi dominated games) and a player who IS the personified game.

Damn son. Wrecked.

Altought i kind of understand what Fred says about dominant in his physicality. Pogba is called polpo because of something.

The problem with him has never been his physical performance or his talent (which is unique IMO)...but the problem lies on his head.

Inconsistency is the word. As long as he doesntmake his mind about being effective or showboating...he will not go forward.

 

[v1rtu4l]

i agree that all that is keeping pogba from becoming the very best is his head, but we all know that this is probably much more of a hinderance then having a few weaknesses in other departments. just look at balotelli and what a monster he could be (e.g. his performance against germany) and how his peasant pea-sized brain stops him from achieving anything of note. a mindset is much harder to reset than a flaw like not being able to play with your weak foot.

another problem is, if you are surrounded by yes-sayers nobody will tell him to stop showboating and he will just continue in this path. pogba can only hope that mourinho is teaching him to be effective, because if not he will just be a showboat wannabe like denilson back in the day. much flash, no result.

 

[duranfj]

Just in case that happens, im gonna prepare myself already

Zaza>Dybala

Berardi would be the right answer IMO

 

[Post Ironic]

That is a bit unfair. As for the NT; Messi and Ronaldo aren't world beaters with their NT's either.

Pogba can still develop further, no doubt about that. But he has been one of the top midfielders in world football for the past three seasons, there is no doubt about that. That is why United paid top dollar for him, the guy's ability and his performances are unquestionable. I can cherry pick periods of any player's career where he was off form for different reasons; that is hardly a valid argument, when you have a player that for the most part has been one of Juventus's top players in the past 3 seasons.

Also, arguments like he can be more consistent, and he still needs to develop further, he hasn't scored against the top teams or generally hasn't been the same in the CL; are all the exact same things people said about C.Ronaldo at that age. Its clutching at straws if you ask me.

Sure those criticisms have an element of truth in them, but they are not unusual for a 23 year old. What is not up for debate, is that he is without question the best midfielder in his age group. People who say Veratti is as good as he is probably don't watch the latter that much. While he is definitely a top talent, he is nowhere near as dominant as Pogba is, and he suffers from the same consistency issues too.

Comparing 23 year old Pogba to 23 year old C. Ronaldo.

You've really outdone yourself now, monsieur Arsenal, I suppose that's to be expected with your irrational love of le français.

C. Ronaldo at Pogba's age, the season he turned 23, was spent leading United to a CL title with 42 goals... 8 goals scored in 11 CL games... winning the Ballon d'Or.

Pogba. Well. He was crap for the first half of the season. He had a great 3 months to finish the season where he played like the best CM in football. And then bombed the Euros.

Very similar consistency issues.

 

[v1rtu4l]

Pogba. Well. He was crap for the first half of the season. He had a great 3 months to finish the season where he played like the best CM in football. And then bombed the Euros.

Very similar consistency issues.

but others were crap, too ! look at sturaro and how bad he was, how can pogba perform if he needs to play with sturaro and padoin. pirlo and marchisio never had to play with padoin and sturaro, so it was easy for them to perform.

 

[KB824]

Please don't compare CR7 to Pogba when they were both 23, whomever is doing that.

Just don't.

 

[Afghan_juventus]

Pogba is more complete, but Verratti is better at several aspect.

Pogba is a decisive addition when your midfield works, and an expensive bystander when it doesnt
Verratti significantly boosts the midfield regardless of who's in it

This. Premfaces are up for a big surprise when they find out how frustrating he is without the likes of Marchisio and Khedira dictating the game and supporting him.

 

[zizinho]

but others were crap, too ! look at sturaro and how bad he was, how can pogba perform if he needs to play with sturaro and padoin. pirlo and marchisio never had to play with padoin and sturaro, so it was easy for them to perform.

Looks like you don't understand much about football to me

 

[Seven]

Please don't compare CR7 to Pogba when they were both 23, whomever is doing that.

Just don't.

Why not? If you're bought for that kind of money, that's the impact you need to have on a team.