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How many minutes will he play for jj in 23-24 season?


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Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,489
So tell me, Higuain isnt world class ? He isnt a top 3 striker ?

If Higuain scored 36 goals in a season for Juve, you'd never hear the end of it from majority of Juve fans. But because he played for Napoli, we have to underrate that achievement....

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Money aspect aside, i dint expect Pogba to go a season without CL. That was the only reason i felt initially it might not happen but money and popularity of EPL(appeal of United) certainly talks i guess.
We, as in this forum, underrated that achieved big time, and it wasn't now but during the actual season when he was weekly called a shitty choker despite being big time game changer.

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abstract

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Mar 3, 2012
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So tell me, Higuain isnt world class ? He isnt a top 3 striker ?

If Higuain scored 36 goals in a season for Juve, you'd never hear the end of it from majority of Juve fans. But because he played for Napoli, we have to underrate that achievement....
Ofc he is world class and one of the best strikers in the world.
My point was people started rating him much higher when it was obvious he will become a Juve player.Some even said Morata was better than him when the rumors first started .
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,489
Yeah, exactly.

I think it's pretty much an attitude where one never wants to look like a loser so he creates a bubble of lies to deny the reality.

I said it dozens of times already. I love Pogba, he's an amazing player. He was/is bound to leave this place. Judging his stats and considering his age it's nothing but amazing how a kid managed to do that (plus in Italy where defensive game is rated highly). He reached CL finals, he even played finals for France. He has more talent in his toe than half of our squad. Yes, he makes mistakes, it's quite natural. But he's capable of winning the match on his own with one pass or a goal. He's just brilliant with occasional brain farts and stupid mistakes which might be fixed in the future. IMO his price is crazy high and too good to refuse. Hell, I even have his jersey and I love Juve, but I'd sell him at this point honestly. I also believe that with the right moves this squad can look even stronger. It can be done. But yea, we might even fail it too.

Bottom line: we're losing a gem. I don't care if he's joining Manure, Real or even Milan. I don't know why people now deny the fact that Pogba has been fucking amazing here. Yes, it's not the end of the world, I won't even cry much if he leaves eventhough I'll be sad. But why heck start talking BS how he's not good enough or invent some crap... When he has a pokemon hair people say he's a boss, when he has shit on his hair people say he's funny and has huge balls. But when it happens outside of the club those same people will laugh. Partly Pogba was always an arrogant prick and overconfident which is reflected through his clothes/hair and generally pics. But now all of a sudden people find it sad and not Juve worthy while he was like that ever since he came here. Some players are in the game to win and earn money and that's majority of players. You gotta accept the fact that clubs will also look to cash on it. Same how for people who were yelling their loungs out how Juve are not a selling club and how chances of him leaving are equal of Earth splitting into 4 ways by Ramos' ball from that penalty kick. Now many of those are find retarded excuses and inventing things. Why not admit to be wrong and accept the freaking reality, I just don't get it.

We used to win. We won with Pogba. We'll also win without him. There's nothing to cry about at this point. But there's no need to spread BS just for the sake of it.
Honestly nothing else need to be said after this post. Worthy of closing this thread for, if only the deal could just be confirmed.

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Juliano13

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May 6, 2012
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Ofc he is world class and one of the best strikers in the world.
My point was people started rating him much higher when it was obvious he will become a Juve player.Some even said Morata was better than him when the rumors first started .
Correct. Just look at the poll results. 70% said we shouldn't pay his release clause, but now they're shooting in their pants.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Yeah, exactly.

I think it's pretty much an attitude where one never wants to look like a loser so he creates a bubble of lies to deny the reality.

I said it dozens of times already. I love Pogba, he's an amazing player. He was/is bound to leave this place. Judging his stats and considering his age it's nothing but amazing how a kid managed to do that (plus in Italy where defensive game is rated highly). He reached CL finals, he even played finals for France. He has more talent in his toe than half of our squad. Yes, he makes mistakes, it's quite natural. But he's capable of winning the match on his own with one pass or a goal. He's just brilliant with occasional brain farts and stupid mistakes which might be fixed in the future. IMO his price is crazy high and too good to refuse. Hell, I even have his jersey and I love Juve, but I'd sell him at this point honestly. I also believe that with the right moves this squad can look even stronger. It can be done. But yea, we might even fail it too.

Bottom line: we're losing a gem. I don't care if he's joining Manure, Real or even Milan. I don't know why people now deny the fact that Pogba has been fucking amazing here. Yes, it's not the end of the world, I won't even cry much if he leaves eventhough I'll be sad. But why heck start talking BS how he's not good enough or invent some crap... When he has a pokemon hair people say he's a boss, when he has shit on his hair people say he's funny and has huge balls. But when it happens outside of the club those same people will laugh. Partly Pogba was always an arrogant prick and overconfident which is reflected through his clothes/hair and generally pics. But now all of a sudden people find it sad and not Juve worthy while he was like that ever since he came here. Some players are in the game to win and earn money and that's majority of players. You gotta accept the fact that clubs will also look to cash on it. Same how for people who were yelling their loungs out how Juve are not a selling club and how chances of him leaving are equal of Earth splitting into 4 ways by Ramos' ball from that penalty kick. Now many of those are find retarded excuses and inventing things. Why not admit to be wrong and accept the freaking reality, I just don't get it.

We used to win. We won with Pogba. We'll also win without him. There's nothing to cry about at this point. But there's no need to spread BS just for the sake of it.
What? Most of us non-teenage posters have been bashing Pogba's hair, style, and attitude for the entire time he's been at Juventus.

And most of us are not dramatically changing our opinions of Pogba. I said yesterday I think he's already a top 5 CM in football, and on a given day can play like the best, but he lacks consistency. I said that during the season too. I still say it. I think he played like the best CM in football over the last 2-3 months of the season after we went out of CL. But he also had a horrific beginning to the season and a mediocre euros. He's not consistent enough to be called the best CM in the world yet. How is that underrating him exactly, Dusan?

Please show me all the posts where people are saying Pogba is mediocre or shit? Show me one? Some people are calling him overrated (which I haven't even done) because there are members claiming he's the best CM in the world already. But show me one single member who is seriously calling Pogba shit or not one of the top 5-10 CMs in football? Because I think you guys are dramatically exaggerating this.

Same deal with Higuain. World class striker with a big game choking problem. No one has denied it. I'm not denying it. But he was still the best player in Serie A last season. Regardless of how butthurt some people are getting about this being said. As though saying the guy who broke the all-time goal record in Serie a was he best player last season is somehow underrating Pogba? Please.

Y'all are exaggerating this to a huge degree. People are saying how this transfer is happening and how Pogba is behaving is disrespectful and that we'll be relieved when it's over and he's gone. But pretty much no one is saying he sucks.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
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I spoke in general but I certainly didn't mean you. Generally said most of what you did back then too (difference is I been patient with Pogba due to his age and tactical immaturity, something that improves with experience). There's a very noticeable difference between rational critique on his flaws and total 180 switch in estimation of a player based on a transfer. The Higuain stuff in particular shows how funny some posters here are...

What's unnecessary sudden is it seems a switch has been turned in the minds of many here as soon as the deal became almost guaranteed to happen. Screams coping mechanism.

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I probably took the opportunist route on this one. Because if you criticized Pogba during the middle of the season, you would no doubt get bashed. Pogba has been a great part of our success here but that doesnt stop me from calling him an extremely overhyped player that does get a lot of unwarranted hype through marketing. Couldnt believe me eyes when people were rating him above experienced legends like Iniesta and Modric already. He is not that good yet. period. But potentially he could become the best when he has a coach who can play to his strengths. Right now he is inconsistent despite several brilliant moments of play and this is a rational opinion.

As for calling it coping mechanism, you're absolutely right because its not like we've replaced Pogba with scrubs. We replaced him with a WC striker in his prime and one of the league's best midfielders. Pogba definitely is a loss all factors considered especially in terms of potential but let us not all pretend like we've been severely weakened which is untrue. If you had told this last year, then there might have been some truth in it but not right now imo.
 

AOD4

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2004
3,861
The $#@!er Di Marzio and his goons are insisting that the deal is 100% done and only the official announcement is left. They are even being smug and $#@!y about it. Their career is basically over if this doesn't go through.
He also confirmed Veratti will join us, i remember it was also greeened by @Mark
 

Juliano13

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
5,017
I probably took the opportunist route on this one. Because if you criticized Pogba during the middle of the season, you would no doubt get bashed. Pogba has been a great part of our success here but that doesnt stop me from calling him an extremely overhyped player that does get a lot of unwarranted hype through marketing. Couldnt believe me eyes when people were rating him above experienced legends like Iniesta and Modric already. He is not that good yet. period. But potentially he could become the best when he has a coach who can play to his strengths. Right now he is inconsistent despite several brilliant moments of play and this is a rational opinion.

As for calling it coping mechanism, you're absolutely right because its not like we've replaced Pogba with scrubs. We replaced him with a WC striker in his prime and one of the league's best midfielders. Pogba definitely is a loss all factors considered especially in terms of potential but let us not all pretend like we've been severely weakened which is untrue. If you had told this last year, then there might have been some truth in it but not right now imo.
If we managed it last year, we'll be more than fine this year.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,489
He also confirmed Veratti will join us, i remember it was also greeened by @Mark
Don't do this to me, my heart can't take it, even if it's just 1 procent possibility.
@Mark knows what I mean, he greened him 4 years ago :cry:

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Mark

The Informer
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Dec 19, 2003
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Chill, just setting a reminder Di Marzio has been wrong before.
GDM gets paid and gets wrong. Can't beat the A. Gomes deal.

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Don't do this to me, my heart can't take it, even if it's just 1 procent possibility.
@Mark knows what I mean, he greened him 4 years ago :cry:

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u too Osman? :mad:
 

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