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Jun 6, 2015
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Pogba is so unique that it's really hard to compare him to any of the modern midfielders who mostly look to play the safe possession based game. He is capable of winning the game with one piece of quality and dominating in the final third like very few others and pretty much all the others who are capable of that are either wingers or attackers.

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Are you watching the Euro's ?
National team football tells very little about the actual quality of the player, we've seen Messi and Ronaldo both "struggle" with their nations and there are countless of flop signings that have been made after major tournaments.

Pogba has tremendous quality as you've seen so not even sure why you would ask such a question.
 

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Are you watching the Euro's ?
Why would I form judgment on a player/players from 3 matches at an international tournament...? When I have an entire season of watching these players perform at clubs.

International football says almost nothing about players. Playing with basically unfamiliar teammates, in unfamiliar systems for the most part, under new coaches with different tactical systems that they have a couple weeks to adapt to from their clubs.

Pogba > everyone listed there by a country mile, aside from Modric.

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Pogba is so unique that it's really hard to compare him to any of the modern midfielders who mostly look to play the safe possession based game. He is capable of winning the game with one piece of quality and dominating in the final third like very few others and pretty much all the others who are capable of that are either wingers or attackers.

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National team football tells very little about the actual quality of the player, we've seen Messi and Ronaldo both "struggle" with their nations and there are countless of flop signings that have been made after major tournaments.

Pogba has tremendous quality as you've seen so not even sure why you would ask such a question.
:tup:

Because he's playing #teamobjective

If International football was the be-all and end-all, James Rodriguez wouldn't be a Real Madrid flop at this point. :D
 

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Pogba is so unique that it's really hard to compare him to any of the modern midfielders who mostly look to play the safe possession based game. He is capable of winning the game with one piece of quality and dominating in the final third like very few others and pretty much all the others who are capable of that are either wingers or attackers.

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National team football tells very little about the actual quality of the player, we've seen Messi and Ronaldo both "struggle" with their nations and there are countless of flop signings that have been made after major tournaments.

Pogba has tremendous quality as you've seen so not even sure why you would ask such a question.
No there's nothing laughable about whoever said they'd rather have Iniesta or Verratti who are great players in their own right. Pogba is a complete midfielder who could become the best but he has still achieve that level of consistency that this hype commands. Seems like you guys just like overrate Pogba to the moon.

Inb4 lot of ' :lol:' and ':rofl:' 's

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Why would I form judgment on a player/players from 3 matches at an international tournament...? When I have an entire season of watching these players perform at clubs.

International football says almost nothing about players. Playing with basically unfamiliar teammates, in unfamiliar systems for the most part, under new coaches with different tactical systems that they have a couple weeks to adapt to from their clubs.

Pogba > everyone listed there by a country mile, aside from Modric.

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:tup:

Because he's playing #teamobjective

If International football was the be-all and end-all, James Rodriguez wouldn't be a Real Madrid flop at this point. :D
And i will continue to play #teamobjective as long as you continue to make statements like this :agree:

Pogba > everyone listed there by a country mile
 

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Only a complete ass would rather have a 32 year old Iniesta who is nowhere near Pogba's level at this point. Consistency is great and all, but Pogba was the best midfielder in the world for the last 5-6 months of this season, once our team settled in with all the changes, and he regained and improved upon his pre-injury form from last year.. He was incredibly consistent this past year down the stretch run of the season, after the poor start.

A level above both Iniesta and Verratti easy. Which doesn't mean they aren't great. But very clearly below Pogba at this point.
 
Jun 6, 2015
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No there's nothing laughable about whoever said they'd rather have Iniesta or Verratti who are great players in their own right. Pogba is a complete midfielder who could become the best but he has still achieve that level of consistency that this hype commands. Seems like you guys just like overrate Pogba to the moon.
Iniesta and Verratti are both great players but very different to Pogba and for our team neither would be as good as Pogba.

Pogba had crazy consistency at the end of the season for about two months and showed the kind of form that makes him challenge for the best player of the world title rather than just the best midfielder.
 

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Only a complete ass would rather have a 32 year old Iniesta who is nowhere near Pogba's level at this point. Consistency is great and all, but Pogba was the best midfielder in the world for the last 5-6 months of this season, once our team settled in with all the changes, and he regained and improved upon his pre-injury form from last year.. He was incredibly consistent this past year down the stretch run of the season, after the poor start.

A level above both Iniesta and Verratti easy. Which doesn't mean they aren't great. But very clearly below Pogba at this point.
I am eagerly awaiting the Zach-180 you're inevitably going to do when he leaves us :) :D

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Iniesta and Verratti are both great players but very different to Pogba and for our team neither would be as good as Pogba.

Pogba had crazy consistency at the end of the season for about two months and showed the kind of form that makes him challenge for the best player of the world title rather than just the best midfielder.
Who talked about our team ?

Saying Pogba is levels above any midfielder let alone a legendary player like Iniesta who is still world class sounds a bit arrogant imo. You would think we watched prime Zidane last season or something.

As i said, a consistent Pogba will be better than any midfielder but he's yet to achieve that level of consistency.
 
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I am eagerly awaiting the Zach-180 you're inevitably going to do when he leaves us :) :D

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Who talked about our team ?

Saying Pogba is levels above any midfielder let alone a legendary player like Iniesta who is still world class sounds a bit arrogant imo. You would think we watched prime Zidane last season or something.

As i said, a consistent Pogba will be better than any midfielder but he's yet to achieve it.
People tend to over dramatize things. I'm not sure how much more consistent Pogba can be than he was during the second part of last season if he keeps the form from the end going throughout the season we would be talking about the best midfielder ever and that sounds a bit too much to ask.
 

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Last year we made a big money signing early in Dybala and we ended up selling Vidal. Seeing as how we've spent money on Pjanic and were happy to pay 25m for Berardi, I have this bad feeling that Beppe has already decided to bank on Pogba.

Oh well, let's hope we get a lot of money coming our way and hopefully James Rodriguez.

James
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I can live with this.
 

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People tend to over dramatize things. I'm not sure how much more consistent Pogba can be than he was during the second part of last season if he keeps the form from the end going throughout the season we would be talking about the best midfielder ever and that sounds a bit too much to ask.
Why do you keep stressing on the last two months ? Let him do this for a good stretch say 2-3 yrs and then we talk. Even with all his talent, i dont see him becoming the best midfielder ever merely because he's complete.

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Last year we made a big money signing early in Dybala and we ended up selling Vidal. Seeing as how we've spent money on Pjanic and were happy to pay 25m for Berardi, I have this bad feeling that Beppe has already decided to bank on Pogba.

Oh well, let's hope we get a lot of money coming our way and hopefully James Rodriguez.

James
Marchisio - Khedira
Pjanic​

I can live with this.
Berardi is not coming mate.
 
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Why do you keep stressing on the last two months ? Let him do this for a good stretch say 2-3 yrs and then we talk. Even with all his talent, i dont see him becoming the best midfielder ever merely because he's complete.
We might have been watching a different player for the last 2-3 years then because I'd say he has been pretty damn good for that stretch. I'm bringing the last two months up because he was unreal during that period and it is unrealistic to expect the player to keep that kind of form up for the entirety off the season but that doesn't mean he played badly for the other part of the season. He had couple of bad games at the start of the season when the whole team struggled other that he was immense.
 

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We might have been watching a different player for the last 2-3 years then because I'd say he has been pretty damn good for that stretch. I'm bringing the last two months up because he was unreal during that period and it is unrealistic to expect the player to keep that kind of form up for the entirety off the season but that doesn't mean he played badly for the other part of the season. He had couple of bad games at the start of the season when the whole team struggled other that he was immense.
Are you going to disagree that he dint have inconsistencies during this 2-3 yr period ? And i dont even want to criticize him for his inconsistencies because its only normal at a young age but you people ALREADY putting him on a pedestal as other great midfielders who've had big performances in WC finals,CL finals by saying 'levels above any midfielder' or 'could be best midfielder ever' is pretty ridiculous to say the least. Geez. These kind of comments could even put Zidane and the likes to shame.
 
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Are you going to disagree that he dint have inconsistencies during this 2-3 yr period ? And i dont even want to criticize him for his inconsistencies because its only normal at a young age but you people ALREADY putting him on a pedestal as other great midfielders who've had big performances in WC finals,CL finals by saying 'levels above any midfielder' or 'could be best midfielder ever' is pretty ridiculous to say the least. Geez. These kind of comments could even put Zidane and the likes to shame.
Who doesn't have inconsistencies during a 2-3 year period? I've seen no one claim that he has had the career of Iniesta or Zidane and it wouldn't even be fair the kid is 23. Neither have I seen anyone claim he could be the best mid ever so not sure why you are getting worked up about.
 

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Who doesn't have inconsistencies during a 2-3 year period? I've seen no one claim that he has had the career of Iniesta or Zidane and it wouldn't even be fair the kid is 23. Neither have I seen anyone claim he could be the best mid ever so not sure why you are getting worked up about.
Either you are not reading the posts made on the previous page or you just happen to agree with it.

And you are misinterpreting my posts. When i read this current Iniesta is nowhere near Pogba's level, i simply have to laugh. So in this context, it would be putting Pogba on a pedestal when he aint done anything yet compared to what Iniesta done in his career. Last time i saw, he is still strutting stuff like a world class player.

Since we talk about club football, can you tell me a standout Pogba performance against a big team in the CL ? He had several good to very good but stand-out ?
 

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