Paris attacks (11 Viewers)

[X Æ A-12]

Probably. Weren't the Charlie Hebdo attacks from French born citizens as well? Wouldn't make a difference to those against accepting refugees though, to them they're all immigrants.

why do you think the Charlie hebdo attack, the guy on the train, and this all happened in the last year? France has had a massive muslim population for quite a while, what has changed?

 

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[DAiDEViL]

being an extremist doesn't make you insane.

 

[Ford Prefect]

religion is a mental disease, tell us something new

I didn't say that.

 

[Enron]

You have an example?

Zinadine Zidan. Their football federation. Placement/treatment of north african immigrants with french citizenship. Banning of the burqa. I could go on, but I don't need to.

 

[Hængebøffer]

France is also one of the leaders in disenfranchising large groups of it's own citizens. This, is most likely the the culprit and will be until France starts accepting all of it's citizens as equals.

Which is why it's stupid (so early) to talk about it being the result if the current immigration crisis.

 

[radekas]

So your saying it was wrong to give citizenship due to the handful of people that may or may not have any relation to north african immigrants? Come on man.

Salvo please lay off the drugs.

Someone asked what's the difference between France and other European countries. I said the difference is France giving their citizenship to countless people from Northern Africa. To explain my point: by doing this France created a gigantic population easly manipulated by groups like ISIS. The population is much bigger than in other countries, therefore it's the difference certain someone asked about.

Not once I said anything about this decision being good or bad.

I'm actually pro current immigrants so please find someone else to argue with.

 

[Ford Prefect]

being an extremist doesn‘t make you insane.

The mass murder of innocent people is a sane act?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

religion is a mental disease, tell us something new

Yes this is the issue. Because there are a million Jews,Christians and Buddhists blowing people up.

PS these people have claimed to be Syrians and ISIS hinting they were refugees

 

[X Æ A-12]

Interesting that whilst this is still unfolding, the debate here has fallen to a debate about race, religion and citizenship, rather than a case of deficient mental health, clearly these are the actions of psychopaths without the capacity to emote with the same compassion that we all share. These are not the actions of sane people, attributing it to anything else serves to discredit wider communities.

reports seem to indicate at least 4+ attackers...you think this many violent psycopaths who are too unstable to keep it together just meet randomly?

 

[Enron]

Which is why it's stupid (so early) to talk about it being the result if the current immigration crisis.

I agree completely.

 

[Maddy]

being an extremist doesn't make you insane.

Exactly. It's a very simple and wrong conclusion calling these attackers psychopaths by default.

 

[radekas]

It just seemed to me that you were blaming the people of the colonized countries for coming to France rather than blaming France for colonizing northern Africa in the first place. Anyway, let's stick to the facts regarding this story instead.

I never blaimed them. I would do it myself.

 

[Post Ironic]

You have an example?

Have you read this article, Andy?

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

It was a good one...

 

[Völler]

I never blaimed them. I would do it myself.

Got ya.

 

[Salvo]

Salvo please lay off the drugs.

Someone asked what's the difference between France and other European countries. I said the difference is France giving their citizenship to countless people from Northern Africa. To explain my point: by doing this France created a gigantic population easly manipulated by groups like ISIS. The population is much bigger than in other countries, therefore it's the difference certain someone asked about.

Not once I said anything about this decision being good or bad.

I'm actually pro current immigrants so please find someone else to argue with.

You didn't quote the post so it seemed as if you were saying the cause of these acts was because of citizenship being granted to members of the colonies. My bad, I misunderstood.


Funnily enough I'm also high. So good pick up.

 

[Hængebøffer]

why do you think the Charlie hebdo attack, the guy on the train, and this all happened in the last year? France has had a massive muslim population for quite a while, what has changed?

You drawed parallels to the current immigration crisis. If it's French critizens, it's a whole different problem. Why didn't the Danish terrorist just shoot random people?

 

[radekas]

so 2 terrorists are apparently killed by French police .

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You didn't quote the post so it seemed as if you were saying the cause of these acts was because of citizenship being granted to members of the colonies. My bad, I misunderstood.


Funnily enough I'm also high. So good pick up.

it's fine, I'm drunk

 

[Post Ironic]

Yes this is the issue. Because there are a million Jews,Christians and Buddhists blowing people up.

PS these people have claimed to be Syrians and ISIS hinting they were refugees

Christians killed people for centuries. The history of the Jews is filled with violence and genocides both for and against. Let's not be ridiculous here. Even Buddhism has had militant sects.

Any sect of any religion following scripture written in incredibly barbaric and violent epochs of human history, is going to be problematic.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Its political fanaticism, I'd argue that someone capable of doing this would be capable of doing it with or without a specific religion.

Political Islam= Nazism.

 

[radekas]

dozens of people killed in the club