Paolo De Ceglie (31 Viewers)

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Bringing him back just to send him to Palermo to get Amauri could simply be the most stupid thing a club can do.
But I wouldn't rule it out. We already foolishly entered into a co-ownership with Siena regarding De Ceglie, one of our youth players, for what exactly? What purpose did that serve? Now we want him back for different reasons.

Secco has no fucking foresight whatsoever. He's a retard who needs to get the fuck out of here. This shit is just stupid beyond enormous proportions.
 

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JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,366
The point is not ruling out these stupid deals out. But loans and co-ownerships should end and these are habits since the days of Moggi that the new board has inherited (well they inherited the worse of habits)

I don't know what power we (fans) have but these things should end.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
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The point is not ruling out these stupid deals out. But loans and co-ownerships should end and these are habits since the days of Moggi that the new board has inherited (well they inherited the worse of habits)

I don't know what power we (fans) have but these things should end.
Yes, the saddest part is that there's pretty much nothing we can do about it.

Unless the fans in Turin make the banners or chants demanding for DC, Gio and Marchisio. Or Paolo himself should talk to the press a little and make the people know that he wants to be at Juve, no matter what.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
We dont need Amauri and we wont be able to compete with Chelsea for him anyway,
also De Ceglie is more promising than Cigarini, we have to fire Secco ASAP
 

Thunderball

Senior Member
May 4, 2007
731
Loans are one thing, co-ownerships are a total other thing.

Loans make sense, as they are a good way to get young players experience, when they might not get it otherwise. Its a fairly risk-free way to get your prospects some game time.

Co-ownerships are just ridiculously stupid. Selling a 50% share in a decent player... if they turn to shit, your 50% is worth nothing... if they turn good, as was the case with Chiellini, Miccoli, Criscito and now De Ceglie, one has to pay a premium to get them back... typically, as high as the other team can possibly go.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
Nedved's replacement, Molinaro's Goddamn replacement, Zambrotta's replacement... serioisly if we miss out on DC, it gotta be the dumbest thing in Juventus history, even worse than Mutu case.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,912
I don't know why people love loaning players all the time, thus letting someone else be responsible for the player's progress. You know the manager doesn't a give a fuck about the long-term development of our youth. Fuck no. They want short-term results, which can make or break a player. That's why loaning is just stupid in my opinion, and the best youth manager in the game today agrees with me (Arsene Wenger).

Playing time is not always the most important thing in the development of a young star. That's why loaning every youngster is just stupid.
 

Mark

The Informer
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Dec 19, 2003
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I would never co-own my good players. If they're good there will always be a team that will take him on loan.

De Ceglie, Giovinco and Marchisio MUST come back next season. The thing is that we'll need to dish out some $$$ for De Ceglie and Giovinco. +-10m €? :rolleyes:
 

AngelaL

Jinx Minx
Aug 25, 2006
10,215
I would never co-own my good players. If they're good there will always be a team that will take him on loan.

De Ceglie, Giovinco and Marchisio MUST come back next season. The thing is that we'll need to dish out some $$$ for De Ceglie and Giovinco. +-10m €? :rolleyes:
:agree: Absolutely!
 

AngelaL

Jinx Minx
Aug 25, 2006
10,215
Fuck Secco why a co-ownership why!?!?
Maybe it's the only way little teams can survive - getting co-ownerships and then selling the player back. Money's very tight as far as the wee teams are concerned. They don't have billionaire owner's like Berlu or moRATti.
 

only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
7,451
Maybe it's the only way little teams can survive - getting co-ownerships and then selling the player back. Money's very tight as far as the wee teams are concerned. They don't have billionaire owner's like Berlu or moRATti.
Berlusconi is the cheapest MF i have ever seen, the guy wins the champions league and get great sponsor deals for the club and he still doesn't spend much on players. Last summer he only got pato, and most of his players r totally finnished........
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
Maybe it's the only way little teams can survive - getting co-ownerships and then selling the player back. Money's very tight as far as the wee teams are concerned. They don't have billionaire owner's like Berlu or moRATti.
I don't know why we (Secco, Juve) should give a fuck about little clubs surviving in the first place.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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De Ceglie: It's not up to me

Siena starlet Paolo De Ceglie insists he has no say over whether he stays at the Stadio Artemio Franchi or returns to co-owners Juventus this summer.

The 21-year-old has revealed himself to be one of Italian football’s rising stars after an impressive campaign in Tuscany.

While Juve opted to loan Sebastian Giovinco and Claudio Marchisio to Empoli, Siena were allowed to purchase 50 per cent of De Ceglie’s rights and now the Old Lady are said to be plotting a bid to buy back full control.

“I’m happy that the Bianconeri sent me to another Serie A side where I have the chance to play regularly,” De Ceglie told Tuttosport.

However, I still have a long way to go on this road before I can think about other things.

I am a footballer and I just want to do my best on the pitch and I’ll leave the talk of contracts and transfers to the directors, as it’s their job.”

It has been reported that Siena’s sporting director Manuel Gerolin will demand at least £3.5m to relinquish the Robur’s share in De Ceglie.

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