Pakistan bans Youtube (1 Viewer)

[Lion]

this is stupid. I'm confident if Mohammed was alive today, he would have never done these things that the extremists are doing today. fucking Hypocrites, most of these leaders are corrupt 2 faced people. And I'm a Muslim, and when I hear how some muslims are acting like complete crybabies, and hypocritical fucks it pisses me off to have them share my religion (I happen to know a few of these hypocrites which pisses me off even more). Drop dead idiots.

 

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[Bjerknes]

I never read a funnier shit than this one.

Look. If you mean it from a technical or a military viewpoint, then you're definitely right.

If you take it from an ethical viewpoint, you can reverse your sentence.

Lets not get into an ethical discussion here. Both have hypocritical viewpoints, from blowing up niggaz to sleeping with young boys.

 

[Bjerknes]

You need a fund raiser? Those boys will come through burning down your mosque or church. Oh no lets ban YouTube because we think Little Brother said that.

Krispy Kreme will never leave the streets nigga.

 

[V]

It wont.Its a stupid reaction.What's hilarious is that you can watch women naked on porn sites,but you cant access youtube.Idiots.

What are you worried about then?

 

[HelterSkelter]

Freedom of speech is just about the most cherished right people have had throughout the centuries. If Danish media wants to publish material not in violation of Danish law then they damn well are going to do just that.

And you know just as well as I do that the only reason they did these cartoons is precisely because they wanted to expose the megalomania of people who think they have the right to dictate the rules by which other people have to live. It's not by accident they chose Mohammed, not Moses or Jesus or what have you. The reason this is being done is that Denmark (and not Denmark alone) has a serious problem and denial is not the answer.
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Not that im against freedom of speech,but is this not abusing the term blatantly?Lets leave religion aside.If a person swore at your mother,would you be expected to remain calm because the other person was excercising 'freedom of speech'?

 

[HelterSkelter]

What are you worried about then?

Youtube had some neat un-pornographic strip teases

 

[Martin]

If you take it from an ethical viewpoint, you can reverse your sentence.

As it happen, ethics is actually a subjective measure. The only universal standard for ethics is like Human Rights.

 

[ReBeL]

Not that im against freedom of speech,but is this not abusing the term blatantly?Lets leave religion aside.If a person swore at your mother,would you be expected to remain calm because the other person was excercising 'freedom of speech'?

Exactly.

Freedom of speech should not be prioritized over respect ever.

 

[Lion]

Not trying to provoke, but it appears to me that on average the Muslim society is 500-1000 years behind on the Christian.

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Not really, the average Muslim society is right there with the rest of the world. from the students doing well in school to people participating in their communities.

the problem is the extremists, and the hypocrites that has fucked everything up for the rest of your average muslim. It doesn't help then that the media labels all the muslims under the same light.

 

[Martin]

Not that im against freedom of speech,but is this not abusing the term blatantly?Lets leave religion aside.If a person swore at your mother,would you be expected to remain calm because the other person was excercising 'freedom of speech'?

If a journalist swore at my mother in a paper I wouldn't buy the paper. Or I would sue the paper (not that I know how to do that, but I vaguely know that's what people do sometimes). And if some authority found that I had a valid case, I would get paid.

Lets leave religion aside.

No, let's not. Religion is the holy cow that we aren't allowed to talk about. If someone comes along with a ridiculous opinion I can criticize him all I want but the minute he says it's religion I have to shut up? Screw that. There is no logic to it. Religion is precisely one of those things in our world that most needs to be criticized, analyzed and picked apart. Some religions are horribly outdated and this is hurting us on a daily basis.

 

[Eddy]

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Not really, the average Muslim society is right there with the rest of the world. from the students doing well in school to people participating in their communities.

the problem is the extremists, and the hypocrites that has fucked everything up for the rest of your average muslim. It doesn't help then that the media labels all the muslims under the same light.

Im pretty sure he meant that most Muslim countries are closed minded

 

[Bjerknes]

Im pretty sure he meant that most Muslim countries are closed minded

Which is true.

 

[Eddy]

Which is true.

Indeed. I'm thankful I'm not living in one of those.

 

[HelterSkelter]

No, let's not. Religion is the holy cow that we aren't allowed to talk about. If someone comes along with a ridiculous opinion I can criticize him all I want but the minute he says it's religion I have to shut up? Screw that. There is no logic to it. Religion is precisely one of those things in our world that most needs to be criticized, analyzed and picked apart. Some religions are horribly outdated and this is hurting us on a daily basis.

The thing is,as an Atheist,a person ends up thinking that you have all the right on the world to criticize people who do believe in God.So if you're going to judge religion by the same barometer as everything else,then why change it for anything else?if you're going to sue a paper that swore at your mother,then a muslim,jew,hindu,chirstian etc should have the right to sue a paper that swore at someone important from his religion.No?If taking acting against someone who swears at someone close to you is Ok,then taking action against someone who swears at someone from your religion that you respect immensley should be Ok too.

Bear in mind,im not a hardline muslim.I dont do half the things a proper muslim should do.But i find it odd that a person who belives in God,be it a muslim or a christian,has to face so much criticism simply because he reacts when someone pokes fun at something dear to him.

 

[Vinman]

What a perfect reaction against the Danish thing!!!

How would they think that closing Youtube will solve the issue??

it was either that, or blowing up Denmark

 

[JCK]

Way to take a stand. Grow up, world! Grow up!

 

[ReBeL]

If a journalist swore at my mother in a paper I wouldn't buy the paper. Or I would sue the paper (not that I know how to do that, but I vaguely know that's what people do sometimes). And if some authority found that I had a valid case, I would get paid.

hahahaha

You have all the right to react as much as you want as long as you don't hurt anybody else physically.

Personally, I'm one of those who are boycotting anything Danish which is sold here. That's how I try to react to someobody who doesn't respect my beliefs. I won't explode myself or burn embassies, but if I can close that embassy, I won't hesitate.

Anyway, the best reaction I saw until now was the reaction of the Egyptian national team which cancelled the friendly matches with Denmark football team.

That's how the idea of the anger can reach withut hurting anybody.

 

[Bjerknes]

Way to take a stand. Grow up, world! Grow up!

#include <iostream>

using namespace std;

int main()
{
cout << "Grow up, World!" << endl;
}

 

[HelterSkelter]

Which is true.

No they arent Andy.Thats just the image these extremist fucks have given Islam.

 

[Martin]

hahahaha

You have all the right to react as much as you want as long as you don't hurt anybody else physically.

Personally, I'm one of those who are boycotting anything Danish which is sold here. That's how I try to react to someobody who doesn't respect my beliefs. I won't explode myself or burn embassies, but if I can close that embassy, I won't hesitate.

That's pretty ridiculous. In the other thread you told everyone to mind their own business, didn't you? How are you minding your business about a paper in Denmark you neither read nor have any connection to?

I can only say that your decision to boycott, while I have nothing against it, is just plain silly. Danish companies selling stuff somewhere in the world have no affiliation with some news paper and no amount of boycotting of Danish products will change what the paper is printing. As a matter of fact, you might as well boycott all Norwegian companies too, because I'm defending them here. And right now I live in Holland so boycott Dutch products too just to be on the safe. Do you not see how utterly ineffective this is?

Anyway, the best reaction I saw until now was the reaction of the Egyptian national team which cancelled the friendly matches with Denmark football team.

That's how the idea of the anger can reach withut hurting anybody.

Fair enough.