Pablo Piatti (11 Viewers)

[Gazzo]

Look, Del Piero is getting old, Palladino is still dodgy, Trezeguet and Amauri are targetmen, not support strikers. Considering Giovinco should and will be deployed in midfield, that will leave us with no support strikers in the coming years.

I'm not sure how this is confusing. I hate this retarded mentality that we're afraid we will have too many talents on our side and it will cause a problem. Look at Manure, look at Arsenal, look at Barca. Are they at all confused? Are they suffering because of their glut of talent? Why can't we start planning ahead and buy a friggin replacement for players we know are on their last legs? We have to fucking plan ahead for a change. And when there is a great talent available, who has considerably more talent than all our youngsters except for Giovinco, you DO NOT sit on your ass just so Milan or Inter or Manure can snap him up.

This is just foolishness that is all too common on this forum.

Clearly the concept of over-allocation is a complete myth isnt it?

We are NOT in the position to over indulge in one department when it is painfully obvious the rest of the squad badly needs upgrading.. The oppurtunity cost of going after Piatti is probably a competent defensive player and like it or not, our squad simply can't be compared to that of Barca's or Manures nor can our current position, we don't have the funds nor luxury to have a foward line of target men Amauri, Iaquinta, Trez and support strikers Del Piero, Palladino, Giovinco & Piatti when our midfield lacks creativity and our defense lack a hell of a lot of things..So tell me with these players when would Piatti get a decent shot considering Ranieri's 4-4-2 which he will not change and u know that.. So yes it would cause a problem seen as though he would get fuck all playing time and be asked to go on loan or better yet transferred

About our players being on their last legs, the only player u can relate to that is Del piero and even he has at least 1 or 2 good seasons, because like Baggio what DP loses in speed, his intelligence as he progresse makes up for this.. We dont have exactly have an entire foward line preparing to retire, far from it

yes ur right it wouldnt cause problems for Manure or Barca, but once again we are not in their position , & it'd be foolish to think we are

 

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[Bjerknes]

And to respond to the fact that Piatti is unproven, so friggin what??? Zidane was unproven in Serie A before we purchased him from Bordeaux... should we have waited longer until he was snapped up by another Serie A club to purchase him?

Fact is, you have to take chances to be successful. It seems as if we have a bunch of cowards here at this club who don't have the balls to take chances on exciting talents, and it's pissing me the hell off.

 

[Dostoevsky]

And to respond to the fact that Piatti is unproven, so friggin what??? Zidane was unproven in Serie A before we purchased him from Bordeaux... should we have waited longer until he was snapped up by another Serie A club to purchase him?

Fact is, you have to take chances to be successful. It seems as if we have a bunch of cowards here at this club who don't have the balls to take chances on exciting talents, and it's pissing me the hell off.

 

[Bjerknes]

Clearly the concept of over-allocation is a complete myth isnt it?

We are NOT in the position to over indulge in one department when it is painfully obvious the rest of the squad badly needs upgrading.. The oppurtunity cost of going after Piatti is probably a competent defensive player and like it or not, our squad simply can't be compared to that of Barca's or Manures nor can our current position, we don't have the funds nor luxury to have a foward line of target men Amauri, Iaquinta, Trez and support strikers Del Piero, Palladino, Giovinco & Piatti when our midfield lacks creativity and our defense lack a hell of a lot of things..So tell me with these players when would Piatti get a decent shot considering Ranieri's 4-4-2 which he will not change and u know that.. So yes it would cause a problem seen as though he would get fuck all playing time and be asked to go on loan or better yet transferred

You're not making a lot of sense here. Ranieri will indeed field the straight 4-4-2, and if that happens, we pretty much have our midfield already planned out. It's going to consist of Camoranesi, Sissoko, Zanetti/Flamini/Marchisio and Giovinco. That's it, don't hope for more with Ranieri. So then what we have is just a little upgrade to the current situation in midfield. Throw in a couple more defenders and that's our transfer campaign.

Now, how do you inject a little creativity into the straight 4-4-2? By deploying a creative support striker such as Del Piero or PIATTI. Alex's legs are tiring and we NEED to inject some YOUTH into the front line, as well as some speed. And no, don't tell me to rely on Palladingo because he hasn't shown much to us yet. While on the other hand, Piatti is a stunning talent.

It's just RIDICULOUS how some people are so consumed over playing time for youngsters. I mean Christ Jesus, how many wonderkids have we seen through the years start off on the bench, get some playing time, then eventually become star regulars for their side? Cesc didn't play much his first year at Arsenal, neither did countless talents from all sorts of clubs. Just because a starlet doesn't start doesn't mean he'll languish and will not start in the future.

People need to get over this ridiculous notion.

About our players being on their last legs, the only player u can relate to that is Del piero and even he has at least 1 or 2 good seasons, because like Baggio what DP loses in speed, his intelligence as he progresse makes up for this.. We dont have exactly have an entire foward line preparing to retire, far from it

And what happened to Baggio when Del Piero came to Juventus?

Good argument.

 

[Gazzo]

And to respond to the fact that Piatti is unproven, so friggin what??? Zidane was unproven in Serie A before we purchased him from Bordeaux... should we have waited longer until he was snapped up by another Serie A club to purchase him?

Fact is, you have to take chances to be successful. It seems as if we have a bunch of cowards here at this club who don't have the balls to take chances on exciting talents, and it's pissing me the hell off.

I agree with u principle but if we were to strictly follow that logic we have missed out on countless argentine starlets and nobody was complaining then..

I couldnt agree with u more in saying that we need to overcome that risk because the dividends could be potentially enourmous

Oh, i just downloaded 3 FULL games of Estudiantes and am watching Piatti very very closely.. I think i might be eating my words very soon as he is outstanding but fact remains we would have to change the player roster to provide him with every oppurtunity to succeed

 

[rounder]

I think our current management is painfully bad at scouting foreign talents. Expect Barcelona to snatch this guy up very soon.

 

[Gazzo]

You're not making a lot of sense here. Ranieri will indeed field the straight 4-4-2, and if that happens, we pretty much have our midfield already planned out. It's going to consist of Camoranesi, Sissoko, Zanetti/Flamini/Marchisio and Giovinco. That's it, don't hope for more with Ranieri. So then what we have is just a little upgrade to the current situation in midfield. Throw in a couple more defenders and that's our transfer campaign.

Now, how do you inject a little creativity into the straight 4-4-2? By deploying a creative support striker such as Del Piero or PIATTI. Alex's legs are tiring and we NEED to inject some YOUTH into the front line, as well as some speed. And no, don't tell me to rely on Palladingo because he hasn't shown much to us yet. While on the other hand, Piatti is a stunning talent.

It's just RIDICULOUS how some people are so consumed over playing time for youngsters. I mean Christ Jesus, how many wonderkids have we seen through the years start off on the bench, get some playing time, then eventually become star regulars for their side? Cesc didn't play much his first year at Arsenal, neither did countless talents from all sorts of clubs. Just because a starlet doesn't start doesn't mean he'll languish and will not start in the future.

People need to get over this ridiculous notion.

And what happened to Baggio when Del Piero came to Juventus?
Good argument.

I never said Palladino has shown anything to convince me he is a really good player yet..

How many wonderkids have we seen fail before due to lack of playing time? a fuck load more than those that have succedded

Baggio still continued to succedd albeit at smaller clubs, if he were to stay who knows what may have happened in regards to his future at Juve and i thoroughally believe the enviroment was different in Del Piero's case as he didnt have as much competition as Piatti would as Del Piero had the aging Vialli & Ravanelli

I'm merely showing the other side of the argument.. After watching Piatti for the last 2 hours it is becoming obvious he is a special talent

 

[Bjerknes]

I never said Palladino has shown anything to convince me he is a really good player yet..

How many wonderkids have we seen fail before due to lack of playing time? a fuck load more than those that have succedded

Baggio still continued to succedd albeit at smaller clubs, if he were to stay who knows what may have happened in regards to his future at Juve and i thoroughally believe the enviroment was different in Del Piero's case as he didnt have as much competition as Piatti would as Del Piero had the aging Vialli & Ravanelli

I'm merely showing the other side of the argument.. After watching Piatti for the last 2 hours it is becoming obvious he is a special talent

Alright, fair enough. But I still don't consider lack of playing time in the first team to ruin talent at an early age. If the player has talent, talent should win out. And we have destroyed players by sending them on loan to various places for playing time as well, so it works both ways.

Still... you can't win if you don't play the game.

 

[HAZEM]

we should get this guy , he is a great talent and please don't tell me that he is still young and u have a doubts bout his performances with us , give him chance and he will be a great addition ... every thing in football is risky u can buy a big player with millions and he falls and doesn't give u his best .

the advantage in our case that he is cheap .

 

[Gazzo]

Alright, fair enough. But I still don't consider lack of playing time in the first team to ruin talent at an early age. If the player has talent, talent should win out. And we have destroyed players by sending them on loan to various places for playing time as well, so it works both ways.

Still... you can't win if you don't play the game.

i agree, u never know if u never try ey but things are rarely this simple

btw, is anyone from Argentina here?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

names?? I think the reason why some people are interested in Piatti is because of the fact he is an unknown player with raps all over him who could be something very special.. but seriously if Piatti was Hungarian or something would people still be so interested in him?

off the top of my head: Escudero, Alexis Sanchez(owned by udinese), Buonanotte, V. Ismael Sosa, Claudio Yacob, and the one i would really want is carrizo but i think he might be heading to lazio

 

[Bjerknes]

off the top of my head: Escudero, Alexis Sanchez(owned by udinese), Buonanotte, V. Ismael Sosa, Claudio Yacob, and the one i would really want is carrizo but i think he might be heading to lazio

But Carrizo is a goalkeeper.

 

[JCK]

But Carrizo is a goalkeeper.

He's a playmaker/goalkeeper/coach :cheesy:

 

[Bjerknes]

He's a playmaker/goalkeeper/coach :cheesy:

Kind of like Jorge Campos?

 

[neurosis21]

if you wait for players to prove themselves at the top level and then buy them there will be only 2 possibilities: a)never get them and b)too expensive

gambles pay off,eg zidane,kaka,ronaldo(both of them),del piero etc

 

[Bjerknes]

if you wait for players to prove themselves at the top level and then buy them there will be only 2 possibilities: a)never get them and b)too expensive

gambles pay off,eg zidane,kaka,ronaldo(both of them),del piero etc

Exactly right my man.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

But Carrizo is a goalkeeper.

there are so many players we can get out of the primera ahead of piatti

trust me i am very familiar with the gachinas

 

[Gazzo]

if you wait for players to prove themselves at the top level and then buy them there will be only 2 possibilities: a)never get them and b)too expensive

gambles pay off,eg zidane,kaka,ronaldo(both of them),del piero etc

oh if only things where that simple

 

[Salvo]

i say we take a chance with this kid!

we dont have much to lose IMO and also we have sivori's son as his agent maybe we can use this, we really do need a support striker.

The 19-year-old Piatti is regarded as one of the most promising young players in Argentinean football, and he was a member of the victorious FIFA U-20 World Cup squad last summer.

The starlet is a diminutive and skilful support striker, who has been likened by some to Barcelona superstar Lionel Messi.

Napoli transfer guru Pierpaolo Marino has a close relationship with Estudiantes, as well as Piatti’s agent Nestor Sivori.

Sivori is the son of former Juventus and Napoli legend Omar, who is widely considered as one of the best footballers in the history of Italian football.

Marino’s contacts and close ties will see him discuss a deal for Piatti ahead of Juventus sporting director Alessio Secco.

Marino is building an impressive side in Campania, and this season snapped up the likes of Ezequiel Lavezzi, Marek Hamsik and Fabiano Santacroce.

Piatti’s Argentine compatriot Fernando Cavenaghi, currently at Bordeaux, is also being tipped to join Napoli this summer.

Anthony Sormani

we need to bring marino and piatti to juve.

 

[Gazzo]

i say we take a chance with this kid!

we dont have much to lose IMO and also we have sivori's son as his agent maybe we can use this, we really do need a support striker.


we need to bring marino and piatti to juve.

Have you seen Piatti play 5 minutes of football?