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I love how every single person on this forum who thinks the EU is a complete failure or about to crumble lives outside of it. And they all confuse it with the Euro-zone.
The EU is fundamentally excellent even with all the flaws and has made the lives of most Europeans better.
Even most of those against the EU recognize many of its benefits. What the majority of those are against is the centralization of power to Brussels which works badly with their usually far left or far right agenda.
The EU is fundamentally excellent even with all the flaws and has made the lives of most Europeans better.
Even most of those against the EU recognize many of its benefits. What the majority of those are against is the centralization of power to Brussels which works badly with their usually far left or far right agenda.
There are two reasons to why.
Extreme muslim terrorist groups like Al-queda has continuously threatened Norway and other western democracies. So it is not that odd, that the likes of Al-Queda comes to mind when a car bomb exploded in the center of Oslo. Just to remind you that the norwegian media and the offical Norway did not at one point say "It's the muslims!"
The 2nd reason which I don't think has got that much to do with Norway is the increasing Islamophobia in Europe. Sadly Right-wing nationalist is getting more and more power all over Europe.
Besides no one have said that "muslims were responsible" - They might have said "extreme radical muslims".
Extreme muslim terrorist groups like Al-queda has continuously threatened Norway and other western democracies. So it is not that odd, that the likes of Al-Queda comes to mind when a car bomb exploded in the center of Oslo. Just to remind you that the norwegian media and the offical Norway did not at one point say "It's the muslims!"
The 2nd reason which I don't think has got that much to do with Norway is the increasing Islamophobia in Europe. Sadly Right-wing nationalist is getting more and more power all over Europe.
Besides no one have said that "muslims were responsible" - They might have said "extreme radical muslims".
I agree. And I have to say, its similar with many people in the EU, they tend to blame everything bad in their countries on the EU, even if it has nothing to do with it.
Generally, people have terrible knowledge about the EU. Thats the case in the candidate countries as well. There are people that are so opposed to entering the EU based on completely ridiculous premises and completely wrong information and terrible knowledge.
Norway shooting: Glenn Beck compares dead teenagers to Hitler youth
Glenn Beck, the leading Right-wing American broadcaster, has prompted outrage after comparing the teenage victims of the Utoya Island massacre to the Hitler Youth.
Beck said that the Labour party youth camp on the island, where 68 people were murdered, bore "disturbing" similarities to the Nazi party's notorious juvenile wing.
Beck, a multimillionaire darling of the Tea Party movement, said on his nationally-syndicated radio show: "There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like, you know, the Hitler youth. I mean, who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing."
Torbjørn Eriksen, a former press secretary to Jens Stoltenberg, Norway's prime minister, described the comment as "a new low" for the broadcaster, who has frequently been forced to apologise for offensive remarks.
"Young political activists have gathered at Utoya for over 60 years to learn about and be part of democracy, the very opposite of what the Hitler Youth was about," he told The Daily Telegraph. "Glenn Beck's comments are ignorant, incorrect and extremely hurtful."
The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, a Washington-based campaign group, said the remark by Beck, a free agent after being forced out of the Fox News channel earlier this year, was "absolutely disgusting".
Beck's controversial statements and conspiracy-filled rants have made him one of the most divisive figures in US politics and media in recent years.
Last year he said he regretted calling Barack Obama a "racist" with a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture". He later apologised for mocking Mr Obama's young daughter Malia.
In February he apologised to Reform Judaism, a group that campaigns for the modernisation of the Jewish faith, after comparing them to "radicalised Islam".
But he refused to apologise in May after mock-vomiting on his live TV show following a cancer-awareness advert starring a nude Meghan McCain, the daughter of Senator John McCain.
Beck said that Miss McMcCain, whose father survived cancer before running for the US presidency, should "wear a burka" because she was apparently unattractive.
Despite Beck expressing surprise that political movements would hold camps for children, followers of his 9/12 Project – which aims to "recapture the spirit of the day after America was attacked" – have this summer been doing just that.
Organisers of the "vacation liberty schools" in several states told the Daily Telegraph how they taught children as young as eight a Tea Party-endorsed curriculum spanning religion, economics and political principles.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-compares-dead-teenagers-to-Hitler-youth.html
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What is wrong with people? Seems like they catch every opportunity they can get for some media attention.
Glenn Beck, the leading Right-wing American broadcaster, has prompted outrage after comparing the teenage victims of the Utoya Island massacre to the Hitler Youth.
Beck said that the Labour party youth camp on the island, where 68 people were murdered, bore "disturbing" similarities to the Nazi party's notorious juvenile wing.
Beck, a multimillionaire darling of the Tea Party movement, said on his nationally-syndicated radio show: "There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like, you know, the Hitler youth. I mean, who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing."
Torbjørn Eriksen, a former press secretary to Jens Stoltenberg, Norway's prime minister, described the comment as "a new low" for the broadcaster, who has frequently been forced to apologise for offensive remarks.
"Young political activists have gathered at Utoya for over 60 years to learn about and be part of democracy, the very opposite of what the Hitler Youth was about," he told The Daily Telegraph. "Glenn Beck's comments are ignorant, incorrect and extremely hurtful."
The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, a Washington-based campaign group, said the remark by Beck, a free agent after being forced out of the Fox News channel earlier this year, was "absolutely disgusting".
Beck's controversial statements and conspiracy-filled rants have made him one of the most divisive figures in US politics and media in recent years.
Last year he said he regretted calling Barack Obama a "racist" with a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture". He later apologised for mocking Mr Obama's young daughter Malia.
In February he apologised to Reform Judaism, a group that campaigns for the modernisation of the Jewish faith, after comparing them to "radicalised Islam".
But he refused to apologise in May after mock-vomiting on his live TV show following a cancer-awareness advert starring a nude Meghan McCain, the daughter of Senator John McCain.
Beck said that Miss McMcCain, whose father survived cancer before running for the US presidency, should "wear a burka" because she was apparently unattractive.
Despite Beck expressing surprise that political movements would hold camps for children, followers of his 9/12 Project – which aims to "recapture the spirit of the day after America was attacked" – have this summer been doing just that.
Organisers of the "vacation liberty schools" in several states told the Daily Telegraph how they taught children as young as eight a Tea Party-endorsed curriculum spanning religion, economics and political principles.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-compares-dead-teenagers-to-Hitler-youth.html
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What is wrong with people? Seems like they catch every opportunity they can get for some media attention.
The Euro is a failed currency. I find it difficult to believe that everyone who signed onto the Eurozone truly understood the economic ramifications of applying a general currency to all sorts of different economies. All of these nations have no control over the value of their own currency, so if they want to remain competitive with other economies, they're unable to do so. That's idiotic, and why many of these countries are in so much trouble.
What Greece should do is leave the Euro and default on their debt, that's the only way they can truly restore their economy eventually. Going into more debt won't really help matters. But it's not just Greece, it's all of the PIIG nations and that's why it's arrogant to think the EU is working. Somebody should step up and leave the Eurozone. If that happens, it'll be difficult to keep the allure of the EU going.
What Greece should do is leave the Euro and default on their debt, that's the only way they can truly restore their economy eventually. Going into more debt won't really help matters. But it's not just Greece, it's all of the PIIG nations and that's why it's arrogant to think the EU is working. Somebody should step up and leave the Eurozone. If that happens, it'll be difficult to keep the allure of the EU going.
