'Official' ??? Zlatan to Juve. (16 Viewers)

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Arif ] ++
C'mon people. Zlatan was born in Sweden. He is swedish with bosnian origin.
That would make my brother Zambian with Belgian origin. I don't think it's relevant where you're born. It's relevant where you live and who your parents are.

My brother was born in Zambia cause we lived there for a couple of years, but then we moved back to Belgium. And yes, he could apply for the Zambian nationality, but IMO he's just as much Belgian as I am.
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by P.E.T.O ] ++

but IMO Zlatan is more Swedish than Bosnian, if he wouldn't be more Swedish, why the hell he plays for their NT then?! He could have chosen Bosnian NT too you know...

Actually, we had the chance. Damn you Jusuf Pušina (former Bosnian FA chairman), damn you to hell!!! You die, you /!"$#)&%$"), DIE!!! :mad: :(


++ [ originally posted by Juventino ] ++
I guess if you are not a foreigner living in another country you will never
understand! Being born in Sweden having foreign parents, or having a passport saying you are a swede or whatever doesn't make you one!

Actually, I've always tought Sweden was very open minded towards foreigners.

++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++

so if your parents were on holiday in a foreign country and they're both from the same country, and they gave birth to you while on holiday, would that make your nationality that country's? What if you're born on a plane over the ocean? Okay maybe that's pushing it, but IMO it's not that straightforward
He's lived in Sweden his whole life FFS.
 

Erkka

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Mar 31, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++

Actually, I've always tought Sweden was very open minded towards foreigners.
that's true, at least they're taking much more foreigners to their country than us... IMO Finland takes too tiny amount of foreigners here...
 
Mar 14, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Jeannette ] ++
It's getting complicated. :D
Yes it does.....

For all of you....he declared himself as citizen of Bosnia&Herzegovina on with a permanent obligation to Sweeden where he was borned and raised. But in his house in Sweeden primary language was: BOSNIAN-CROATIAN-SERBIAN which he speaks fluently(he even has a good bosnian accent like he lived in Bosnia for about 20y.) and I talked to him when he was on his vacation in Dubrovnik where he has his mothers house wich is next to my summer-house there. ****.....if he was REAL SWEED.....he would talk primary Sweeden.....but....he talks Balkan...

And now....I was borned in Germany,I went to international school,I have German citizenship,I played for German Junior-basketball team....does that makes me German? Fukk no.....Im a Croatian and I will always be cuz my non-german Croatian name tells me that Im Croatian. Germans will never consider me like their own,like you Sweeds wouldnt consider Zlatan like your own if he hadnt accomplished things he did right now. He would be just another imigrant in Sweeden. EOD
 
Mar 14, 2004
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Take for an example his mother.....she was borned and raised in Bosnia but she is not Bosnian but Croatian. Its a little bit of complicated to understand Balkan mentality for the rest of the world....it seems that Zlatan(ours Zlatan,not Ibra) & me onley get the point.

Well.....fact that Ibra wanted to play for Bosnia&Herzegovina or Croatia as younger tell everything IMO.
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by IceBlu ] ++

Croatian mother.
She's not croatian, she's a bosnian catholic. Big difference. I dont know why I even bother.


++ [ originally posted by barkuss ] ++
Take for an example his mother.....she was borned and raised in Bosnia but she is not Bosnian but Croatian. Its a little bit of complicated to understand Balkan mentality for the rest of the world....it seems that Zlatan(ours Zlatan,not Ibra) & me onley get the point.
I get the point, but I also think the point is wrong. I dont think his mother is croatian, she's a bosnian catholic. I'm talking about nationality, not religion, and thats something people in the Balkans mix up all the time. You can be a bosnian catholic, orthodox or muslim. Just because you're a catholic doesnt mean you're croatian. Therefore, I dont think his mother is Croatian, she's a bosnian catholic, and hence, Zlatan is Bosnian, not croatian. Remamber, I'm talking about nationality, not religion.
 
Mar 14, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
She's not croatian, she's a bosnian catholic. Big difference. I dont know why I even bother.
I get the point, but I also think the point is wrong. I dont think his mother is croatian, she's a bosnian catholic. I'm talking about nationality, not religion, and thats something people in the Balkans mix up all the time. You can be a bosnian catholic, orthodox or muslim. Just because you're a catholic doesnt mean you're croatian. Therefore, I dont think his mother is Croatian, she's a bosnian catholic, and hence, Zlatan is Bosnian, not croatian. Remamber, I'm talking about nationality, not religion.

Dont act like you dunno the situation down there....and please dont make me to write a f.book here about religious-etnichs politics here.
You aswell now that Catholics in Bosnia consider themselves as Croats,eastern-Catholics as Serbs....every Catholic in Bosnia regards Croatia as his homeland....and they all have double citizenship.
 

Juve_Kosova

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May 4, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++

so if your parents were on holiday in a foreign country and they're both from the same country, and they gave birth to you while on holiday, would that make your nationality that country's? What if you're born on a plane over the ocean? Okay maybe that's pushing it, but IMO it's not that straightforward
see this guy has a point... It dosent matter where u have been born..!!
 

Juve_Kosova

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May 4, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by barkuss ] ++


Yes it does.....

For all of you....he declared himself as citizen of Bosnia&Herzegovina on with a permanent obligation to Sweeden where he was borned and raised. But in his house in Sweeden primary language was: BOSNIAN-CROATIAN-SERBIAN which he speaks fluently(he even has a good bosnian accent like he lived in Bosnia for about 20y.) and I talked to him when he was on his vacation in Dubrovnik where he has his mothers house wich is next to my summer-house there. ****.....if he was REAL SWEED.....he would talk primary Sweeden.....but....he talks Balkan...

And now....I was borned in Germany,I went to international school,I have German citizenship,I played for German Junior-basketball team....does that makes me German? Fukk no.....Im a Croatian and I will always be cuz my non-german Croatian name tells me that Im Croatian. Germans will never consider me like their own,like you Sweeds wouldnt consider Zlatan like your own if he hadnt accomplished things he did right now. He would be just another imigrant in Sweeden. EOD
Great point man!

Thats right, like me, im born here in Denmark, i have ALBANIAN parents (thank god), i work here, i go to school here, i LIVE here, BUT im not danish and WILL NEVER be, and danish will never consider me as a dane, and thats it, THE SAME WITH ZLATAN, he is and will ALWAYSE be Bosnian/croatian....!
 

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