Official Zlatan Ibrahimovic Thread (20 Viewers)
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You're looking at it in the mirror, Seven.
It's a typical "afteranalysis".
Ofcourse you think the way you think when you already know he's been injured.
With your point of view every attacker should step aside as soon as a crazy defender like Materazzi is on his way.
Zlatan WAS waiting for Materazzi, he knew that there would be a good chance that Materazzi would cause a foul on him and get a nice place for a freekick.
But ofcourse he didn't had an injury on his mind.
If attackers ran around being afraid of injuries, they wouldn't be able to play their game and be as good as they can be.
I really thought you were kidding, why weren't you?
It's a typical "afteranalysis".
Ofcourse you think the way you think when you already know he's been injured.
With your point of view every attacker should step aside as soon as a crazy defender like Materazzi is on his way.
Zlatan WAS waiting for Materazzi, he knew that there would be a good chance that Materazzi would cause a foul on him and get a nice place for a freekick.
But ofcourse he didn't had an injury on his mind.
If attackers ran around being afraid of injuries, they wouldn't be able to play their game and be as good as they can be.
I really thought you were kidding, why weren't you?
It's always something with Seven. First he states that Ibrahimovic's wondergoal over a year ago at Ajax did not require much skill. Secondly, he proclaims that Zlatan does not have much technical ability and because of that "fact" he will never be a world class player. Now Seven says that it was "partly" Zlatan's fault for his own injury...what's next?
Thanks for the entertainment and arrogance Seven, very fun stuff! Now, I'm new here but figured it would be interesting to hear your response to the following four reasons why zlatan, or any other skilled player, should NOT think the way you do
1) if your coach ever heard that u wimped out because you were afraid when you were getting close to the penalty area with full control of the ball you would get benched, and rightly so.
2) a freekick in the spot where zlatan got fouled is a GREAT chance at goal, and even when it’s materazzi the risk of serious injury is puny in comparison
3) No player was available for a great pass and hey, zlatan even with his “lack of technical skill” according to you seven scored two of the greatest goals of 2004 on virtual no-chances because of his combination of technique & strength agility. That’s why juve bought him. It is specifically his job to try to create chances out of nothing, so of course he should try to dribble past a defender when neither trez nor anyone else is in great scoring position.
4) And if you feel he should have avoided the 150mph sidewalk-loving materazzi car, then tell me in what instances a forward should do anything but stand still and onetouch the ball? Certainly DPs career would be naught and void as would ronaldo’s, Maradona’s, zidane’s, ronaldinho’s and any other players’ who occasionally holds onto the ball for longer than a split-second in order to create chances with their superior individual skill and vision. If a player, like the ones I mentioned, dribbles 5 times per game that’s 200 per year and thousands for his career. How can he know in which 2-10 (?) times he will get hurt? He can’t, so he will play his game and hope for the best.
1) if your coach ever heard that u wimped out because you were afraid when you were getting close to the penalty area with full control of the ball you would get benched, and rightly so.
2) a freekick in the spot where zlatan got fouled is a GREAT chance at goal, and even when it’s materazzi the risk of serious injury is puny in comparison
3) No player was available for a great pass and hey, zlatan even with his “lack of technical skill” according to you seven scored two of the greatest goals of 2004 on virtual no-chances because of his combination of technique & strength agility. That’s why juve bought him. It is specifically his job to try to create chances out of nothing, so of course he should try to dribble past a defender when neither trez nor anyone else is in great scoring position.
4) And if you feel he should have avoided the 150mph sidewalk-loving materazzi car, then tell me in what instances a forward should do anything but stand still and onetouch the ball? Certainly DPs career would be naught and void as would ronaldo’s, Maradona’s, zidane’s, ronaldinho’s and any other players’ who occasionally holds onto the ball for longer than a split-second in order to create chances with their superior individual skill and vision. If a player, like the ones I mentioned, dribbles 5 times per game that’s 200 per year and thousands for his career. How can he know in which 2-10 (?) times he will get hurt? He can’t, so he will play his game and hope for the best.
Zlatan sets Euro aim
Swedish striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic has declared that Juventus' primary target this season is the UEFA Champions League.
The Old Lady of Italian football proved themselves the top dogs in Serie A last season and Ibrahimovic is eager for the team to replicate their success on the European stage.
"The Scudetto is already here, now we want the Champions League," Ibrahimovic told Corriere della Sera.
Juve have a perfect record in all competitions so far this season and the Swede admits the players have come accustomed to success.
"Our secret is our mentality," he added. "All the players want to win.
"We have good experience and togetherness. If someone makes a mistake, the rest will help."
The tall Swede proved a major success in his first season in Serie A last term, drawing comparisons with Marco van Basten, but Ibrahimovic feels it is too early for him to be mentioned in the same breath as the Dutchman.
"Van Basten is a legend," he added. "He played superbly in Italy and everyone saw he was the best.
"I have a long way to go to reach that level.
"In Italy I am learning and thanks go to coach (Fabio) Capello. I like working with him.
"When I knew of Juve's interest, I was happy and wanted to move to an important league.
"When I arrived he told me 'you are my investment for the future' and it made me feel good."
Ibrahimovic could find himself the subject of a cheeky transfer offer.
A Swedish football fan scooped €13 million on the lottery and hinted on claiming his prize that he would like to bring Ibrahimovic to second division side Gute.
"We discussed the possibilities of buying Zlatan for Visby club Gute," national lottery spokesman Tommy Wahlgren said after talking to the 36-year-old winner, who was not named.
Juve paid Ajax €16 million for Ibrahimovic and are likely to resist all offers for their Swedish star.
Swedish striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic has declared that Juventus' primary target this season is the UEFA Champions League.
The Old Lady of Italian football proved themselves the top dogs in Serie A last season and Ibrahimovic is eager for the team to replicate their success on the European stage.
"The Scudetto is already here, now we want the Champions League," Ibrahimovic told Corriere della Sera.
Juve have a perfect record in all competitions so far this season and the Swede admits the players have come accustomed to success.
"Our secret is our mentality," he added. "All the players want to win.
"We have good experience and togetherness. If someone makes a mistake, the rest will help."
The tall Swede proved a major success in his first season in Serie A last term, drawing comparisons with Marco van Basten, but Ibrahimovic feels it is too early for him to be mentioned in the same breath as the Dutchman.
"Van Basten is a legend," he added. "He played superbly in Italy and everyone saw he was the best.
"I have a long way to go to reach that level.
"In Italy I am learning and thanks go to coach (Fabio) Capello. I like working with him.
"When I knew of Juve's interest, I was happy and wanted to move to an important league.
"When I arrived he told me 'you are my investment for the future' and it made me feel good."
Ibrahimovic could find himself the subject of a cheeky transfer offer.
A Swedish football fan scooped €13 million on the lottery and hinted on claiming his prize that he would like to bring Ibrahimovic to second division side Gute.
"We discussed the possibilities of buying Zlatan for Visby club Gute," national lottery spokesman Tommy Wahlgren said after talking to the 36-year-old winner, who was not named.
Juve paid Ajax €16 million for Ibrahimovic and are likely to resist all offers for their Swedish star.
Let me begin with saying that it's not a quality post at all.
1) I'm not talking about wimping out. I'm talking about avoiding injuries. When you see Materazzi coming you know you're going to get injured. He could have at least jumped instead of turning directly towards Materazzi.
2) Am I saying it was wrong for Zlatan to try and win a free kick? No. I am saying however that he didn't position himself very well and that he could have passed the ball.
3) Zlatan scored two lucky goals, yes. But those two goals surely were not the reasons why Juve bought him. And Zlatan isn't that great technically, I'm not the only who notices it.
4) First of all one-touch football is great to watch and most coaches will want their players to play it. Not every challenge is the same, you know. There are degrees in it. As a pro you should be able to see which ones are going to hurt.
1) I'm not talking about wimping out. I'm talking about avoiding injuries. When you see Materazzi coming you know you're going to get injured. He could have at least jumped instead of turning directly towards Materazzi.
2) Am I saying it was wrong for Zlatan to try and win a free kick? No. I am saying however that he didn't position himself very well and that he could have passed the ball.
3) Zlatan scored two lucky goals, yes. But those two goals surely were not the reasons why Juve bought him. And Zlatan isn't that great technically, I'm not the only who notices it.
4) First of all one-touch football is great to watch and most coaches will want their players to play it. Not every challenge is the same, you know. There are degrees in it. As a pro you should be able to see which ones are going to hurt.
it is luck,noone may regulary score goals like that,
Zlatan tries many time beutiful things like that
and most of the times he fails,(a few times he...)
when a defensive team like Juve sould take advantage of the slightest attacking chances we create to score,
Zlatan does ruin our game on the effectiveness level,(so as Robinho to Real, but we are not Real)
on the other hand he does create some magic from nowhere where most of the great majority of the other great players wouldnt even try and there are moments our lack of creativity, needs this bad.
the key here is the balance,
when he will become mature enough to know when to try and when to secure, he will be what we all want him to be
and i believe its inevitabile to find this balance soon or later...
Zlatan tries many time beutiful things like that
and most of the times he fails,(a few times he...)
when a defensive team like Juve sould take advantage of the slightest attacking chances we create to score,
Zlatan does ruin our game on the effectiveness level,(so as Robinho to Real, but we are not Real)
on the other hand he does create some magic from nowhere where most of the great majority of the other great players wouldnt even try and there are moments our lack of creativity, needs this bad.
the key here is the balance,
when he will become mature enough to know when to try and when to secure, he will be what we all want him to be
and i believe its inevitabile to find this balance soon or later...
Very true.
Ofcourse he still dribbles a little too much but I would rather want him dribbling too much than too little.
Seven, you can go on and on with this negativity against Zlatan.
I never mean to insult anyone but CLEARLY you neither play football yourself nor know alot about football.
To say that Zlatan doesn't have any technical abilities is like saying that Emerson doesn't have any running abilities.
It's only Zlatan and Ronaldinho in the world who are confident in doing the "elastico"-feint. Not that it's the most effective dribble but it sure is an "evidence" of a great technique.
He will definitely be nominated for Ballon D'Or within two years and I can't believe a Juve-fan has that negative view on one of Juve's most important players.
Ofcourse he still dribbles a little too much but I would rather want him dribbling too much than too little.
Seven, you can go on and on with this negativity against Zlatan.
I never mean to insult anyone but CLEARLY you neither play football yourself nor know alot about football.
To say that Zlatan doesn't have any technical abilities is like saying that Emerson doesn't have any running abilities.
It's only Zlatan and Ronaldinho in the world who are confident in doing the "elastico"-feint. Not that it's the most effective dribble but it sure is an "evidence" of a great technique.
He will definitely be nominated for Ballon D'Or within two years and I can't believe a Juve-fan has that negative view on one of Juve's most important players.
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