Official Zlatan Ibrahimovic Thread (18 Viewers)

[Seven]

Well, by definition there's only 1 "best" player in thw world, while there are 10 or so great clubs. Only 1 can have the best.

Zlatan isn't in the top 10 IMO.

 

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[Zlatan]

In your opinion, in somebody elses he is.


You say we only need the best, but you want us to play Del Piero, who is even further from the top 10 than Zlatan. Doesnt make sense.

 

[Seven]

In your opinion, in somebody elses he is.


You say we only need the best, but you want us to play Del Piero, who is even further from the top 10 than Zlatan. Doesnt make sense.

I want us to play Del Piero because at the present time he's the one who can make this Juve a better team. However, I don't think we should build a team around Del Piero, because he's not good enough anymore. In a perfect world I'd play neither Ibra nor Del Piero, but someone better.

 

[Zlatan]

And that would be?

Face it there arent many better players than him, in fact thera are few clubs in the world who wouldnt want him.

 

[Bjerknes]

Seven, Ajax has always seemingly had problems with their better players, from Mido to van der Vaart to now Wesley Sneijder. This is nothing new and you cannot exactly use that as an argument to generalize the Zlatan of the future...everybody is capable of change and even if the Swede tones his arrogance down a little we will be in good shape. Something Ibrahimovic doesn't lack is a competitive spirit, and in a way some arrogance is helpful because he will probably never suffer from a lack of confidence...an important key for a succesful striker. Zlatan can keep some of his arrogance but not all...the disrespect towards other players and retalitory actions must stop now or he will eventually pay for his mistakes. Ibrahimovic needs to know the line is drawn when the club can be affected by his actions as well.

And why are people here comparing Zlatan to a player like Ronaldinho? They are totally different players who play in two different leagues and have different amounts of experiance. Who cares about age when we are talking early twenties here...and some people need to admit top form can hit a player during different parts of his career. For instance look at Luca Toni...28 years old and in the past year he has finally found world class form. Making assumptions about how good a player will become is worthless as it's something you cannot predict...give a player time and a good enviornment and he could flourish into something special. Zlatan has the world at his feet and it's up to him and Capello what he does from this point on..

 

[Seven]

Seven, Ajax has always seemingly had problems with their better players, from Mido to van der Vaart to now Wesley Sneijder. This is nothing new and you cannot exactly use that as an argument to generalize the Zlatan of the future...everybody is capable of change and even if the Swede tones his arrogance down a little we will be in good shape. Something Ibrahimovic doesn't lack is a competitive spirit, and in a way some arrogance is helpful because he will probably never suffer from a lack of confidence...an important key for a succesful striker. Zlatan can keep some of his arrogance but not all...the disrespect towards other players and retalitory actions must stop now or he will eventually pay for his mistakes. Ibrahimovic needs to know the line is drawn when the club can be affected by his actions as well.

And why are people here comparing Zlatan to a player like Ronaldinho? They are totally different players who play in two different leagues and have different amounts of experiance. Who cares about age when we are talking early twenties here...and some people need to admit top form can hit a player during different parts of his career. For instance look at Luca Toni...28 years old and in the past year he has finally found world class form. Making assumptions about how good a player will become is worthless as it's something you cannot predict...give a player time and a good enviornment and he could flourish into something special. Zlatan has the world at his feet and it's up to him and Capello what he does from this point on..

Zlatan's 24, Andy. Most people are mature at 24. He still acts as if he's 17. And given the fact he has been a superstart for some years now, it just doesn't look as if he's going to improve there. I doubt he even realises what he does is wrong.

IMO the answer is simple: relegate Ibra to the primavera team next time he does something wrong. Juve never really punished Ibra for any of his actions.

 

[Espectro]

We are JUVENTUS. If not the best, we need the second best player in the world. "Good" and "great" won't do, we need the "best".

I dont get it, if we follow your post then the only player than can be "worth" of our team is Ronalndihno at the moment...

IMO the answer is simple: relegate Ibra to the primavera team next time he does something wrong. Juve never really punished Ibra for any of his actions.

Wow... no comment

 

[Seven]

I dont get it, if we follow your post then the only player than can be "worth" of our team is Ronalndihno at the moment...



Wow... no comment

*sigh* stop being so shortsighted. We could do for two weeks or so without Zlatan and we'd get a better and more mature player back. It would be a good deal for all parties involved.

Yes, Ronaldinho and the second best, if not the second, the third, but at least one of the top five.

 

[Espectro]

*sigh* stop being so shortsighted. We could do for two weeks or so without Zlatan and we'd get a better and more mature player back. It would be a good deal for all parties involved.

And wich player would that be?

Yes, Ronaldinho and the second best, if not the second, the third, but at least one of the top five.

Hummm I see... "ok"

 

[Zlatan]

So who are the top 5 in that position in your opinion?

 

[Seven]

And wich player would that be?




Hummm I see... "ok"

That player would be Zlatan .

 

[Seven]

So who are the top 5 in that position in your opinion?

1. Henry
2. Shevchenko
3. Trezeguet (if not a true goalscorer, I'd go for Gila)
4. Ronaldinho (if you consider him to be a support striker)
5. Toni (at the moment)

 

[Zlatan]

Hmm, out of those 5 players maybe 1 or 2 can be compared to Zlatan.

 

[Seven]

Hmm, out of those 5 players maybe 1 or 2 can be compared to Zlatan.

You can't be serious about that, Zlatan. They're all better.

Sheva scored 4 in the CL. FOUR!
Zlatan hardly ever scores.

Toni has been scoring like hell and creates a lot of chances.

Henry is friggin' Henry. Did you see the goal he scored last weekend?

And Ronaldinho.. well..

 

[Zlatan]

Didnt say that, I said they dont really play the same position, especially Toni and Trez, and somewhat Ronaldinho.


You can also say Lampard is a better player than Zlatan but you wont put him in attack to replace Zlatan.

 

[Seven]

Didnt say that, I said they dont really play the same position, especially Toni and Trez, and somewhat Ronaldinho.


You can also say Lampard is a better player than Zlatan but you wont put him in attack to replace Zlatan.

No player plays exactly the same position as Zlatan. Obviously our system would be changed.

 

[Espectro]

That player would be Zlatan .

So at the end you DO think that Zlatan can change

 

[Seven]

So at the end you DO think that Zlatan can change

If harsh and severe measures are taken and at the moment they are not.

 

[Espectro]

hummm I see... ok

Sorry I lost interest in the conversation

Peace

 

[Akerman]

Zlatan will be bigger than Van Basten, you will see.