actually Bosnia won first match but I think we are brothers afterall 
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I'm note sure about brothers, but I'm sure that Turkey will win especially when we are playing so poor, and also there were rumours that the game in Sarajevo which we won should finish draw so that in the last game team who don't need result will loose (but thank to yours "superb" GK we won the match)
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Serbia's Euro 2008 encounter with Kazakhstan has been postponed due to heavy snow in Belgrade...
Sadly we probably failed to qualify...Poland won...
But congratulations for all Turks,Croats and everyone else from other nations who qualified.int:
Sadly we probably failed to qualify...Poland won...
But congratulations for all Turks,Croats and everyone else from other nations who qualified.
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Macedonia 
I know we didn't qualify , but we beat the mighty Croatia. Due the rainy weather the pitch was terrible btw.
I know we didn't qualify , but we beat the mighty Croatia. Due the rainy weather the pitch was terrible btw.
The pitch was unplayable, seriously I don't think the match should have went ahead but doesn't matter in the end, all finished well.
Now folks, how much do you reckon Abramovich is gonna offer each Croatian if they beat England on Wednesday?
Euro 2008 qual. - Croatia offered incentives
Eurosport - Mon, 19 Nov 18:22:00 2007
Croatia have been offered incentives to beat England next Wednesday by the owner of Spartak Moscow.
Leonid Fedun has declared he will give Mercedes cars to the Group leaders' best four players - including his own club's goalkeeper Stipe Pletikoska - if they win at Wembley, a result that would allow Russia to qualify for Europe 2008 ahead of England.
"I'm doing this strictly as a fan," Fedun said.
"If we have even a small chance we must try to use it."
Russia's 2-1 defeat to Israel last weekend meant that, having been in pole position to take the second qualifying slot ahead of England, Guus Hiddink's men must hope that Croatia do them a favour.
An English businessman was reported to have offered a car to Omer Golan - who scored Israel's winner - but his country's FA refused the gift on sporting grounds.
Croatia have definitely qualified for the finals, although a heavy defeat would mean England win the group.
Eurosport
Eurosport - Mon, 19 Nov 18:22:00 2007
Croatia have been offered incentives to beat England next Wednesday by the owner of Spartak Moscow.
Leonid Fedun has declared he will give Mercedes cars to the Group leaders' best four players - including his own club's goalkeeper Stipe Pletikoska - if they win at Wembley, a result that would allow Russia to qualify for Europe 2008 ahead of England.
"I'm doing this strictly as a fan," Fedun said.
"If we have even a small chance we must try to use it."
Russia's 2-1 defeat to Israel last weekend meant that, having been in pole position to take the second qualifying slot ahead of England, Guus Hiddink's men must hope that Croatia do them a favour.
An English businessman was reported to have offered a car to Omer Golan - who scored Israel's winner - but his country's FA refused the gift on sporting grounds.
Croatia have definitely qualified for the finals, although a heavy defeat would mean England win the group.
Eurosport
Greg, how do you rate Fernando Meira?
Thanks, Rebel. We were quite impressive too until the Macedonia match. Ahhhh, their pitch. 
Honestly, I don´t know what to expect on EURO because Croats always seem to choke on the main tournament. This time we will have a much better squad but our defense still doesn´t quite convince me.
We mostly depend on Srna, Kovac brothers (whom I don´t rate that high but the truth is that they are immense for our national team), Modric and Eduardo and if they will play regularly on EURO and be in good form then I think we can reach the quarter finals. Of course, a lot depends on the opponents we get.
All in all, it is great that we won´t miss the EURO 2008 and that is becoming a trend for us. For my country as it is, that is a big sucess (to constantly be on major tournaments)......
To wrap up a pretty good week, France has also qualified. It´ll be a great tournament. It will be even better if the boring Greeks are knocked out in the 1st round.
Thanks, Rebel.
We were quite impressive too until the Macedonia match. Ahhhh, their pitch. Honestly, I don´t know what to expect on EURO because Croats always seem to choke on the main tournament. This time we will have a much better squad but our defense still doesn´t quite convince me.
We mostly depend on Srna, Kovac brothers (whom I don´t rate that high but the truth is that they are immense for our national team), Modric and Eduardo and if they will play regularly on EURO and be in good form then I think we can reach the quarter finals. Of course, a lot depends on the opponents we get.
All in all, it is great that we won´t miss the EURO 2008 and that is becoming a trend for us. For my country as it is, that is a big sucess (to constantly be on major tournaments)......
To wrap up a pretty good week, France has also qualified. It´ll be a great tournament. It will be even better if the boring Greeks are knocked out in the 1st round.
Cheers guys. int:
Now I really don't have anythin against anyone, but your players really frustrated me to the bone on Saturday. They played like it was their last match on Earth, even though it meant nothing to them. What the hell happened to that neighbourly solidarity, you know, share the points?
int:Now I really don't have anythin against anyone, but your players really frustrated me to the bone on Saturday. They played like it was their last match on Earth, even though it meant nothing to them. What the hell happened to that neighbourly solidarity, you know, share the points?
I'm never happy when we lose, but in this case i think losing was better than drawing. It was a friendly match after all, but if we played 0:0 or 1:1 the world would have thought that the 2 friendly nations fixed the match. This way it's less suspicious (even though i'm absolutely sure it would have been a draw if Russians won in Israel)
And Vlatko, it was kind of important for us not to win this match . Because if we won we could have been group holders at the EURO, together with Austria, Greece and Switzerland and we could have found ourself in some group of death. This way we'll be in second pot and get AUT, SUI or GRE as group holders. It's much better than getting a group with Italy, England and France.
I'm glad for Macedonia and my friends from Macedonia for the greatest win in their history and i'm glad noone got injured on that pitch.
Congrats xcen3x.
Now lets win in England
Thanks, Alen
I think that there is another reason for what this win is so important for Macedonia. If your NT is ranked above 60 in the FIFA Raknings (and with this win we will jump 4-5 places in the rankings) the players from Macedonian league can go and play abroad without any sanctions and difficulties. The players from countries bellow 60 need special approval from FIFA and UEFA, correct me if I'm wrong, trough.
Good luck on Euro'08 , I think that this generation of yours can aim very high and I'm pleasanty suprised by Bilic and his work as NT coach.
I think that there is another reason for what this win is so important for Macedonia. If your NT is ranked above 60 in the FIFA Raknings (and with this win we will jump 4-5 places in the rankings) the players from Macedonian league can go and play abroad without any sanctions and difficulties. The players from countries bellow 60 need special approval from FIFA and UEFA, correct me if I'm wrong, trough.
Good luck on Euro'08 , I think that this generation of yours can aim very high and I'm pleasanty suprised by Bilic and his work as NT coach.
This was their first win in their history against a team from FIFA top 10. After HT when we were already qualified and we stopped playing, trying not to get an injury on that horrible pitch, Macedonians saw their chance and gave everything to get one of the greatest results in their history. We had nothing against them beating us. The point meant nothing to us, the 3 points were huge for them.
I'm never happy when we lose, but in this case i think losing was better than drawing. It was a friendly match after all, but if we played 0:0 or 1:1 the world would have thought that the 2 friendly nations fixed the match. This way it's less suspicious (even though i'm absolutely sure it would have been a draw if Russians won in Israel)
And Vlatko, it was kind of important for us not to win this match . Because if we won we could have been group holders at the EURO, together with Austria, Greece and Switzerland and we could have found ourself in some group of death. This way we'll be in second pot and get AUT, SUI or GRE as group holders. It's much better than getting a group with Italy, England and France.
I'm glad for Macedonia and my friends from Macedonia for the greatest win in their history and i'm glad noone got injured on that pitch.
Congrats xcen3x.
Now lets win in England
I'm never happy when we lose, but in this case i think losing was better than drawing. It was a friendly match after all, but if we played 0:0 or 1:1 the world would have thought that the 2 friendly nations fixed the match. This way it's less suspicious (even though i'm absolutely sure it would have been a draw if Russians won in Israel)
And Vlatko, it was kind of important for us not to win this match . Because if we won we could have been group holders at the EURO, together with Austria, Greece and Switzerland and we could have found ourself in some group of death. This way we'll be in second pot and get AUT, SUI or GRE as group holders. It's much better than getting a group with Italy, England and France.
I'm glad for Macedonia and my friends from Macedonia for the greatest win in their history and i'm glad noone got injured on that pitch.
Congrats xcen3x.
Now lets win in England
This is not the face of a man that was playing for a loss or draw after half time, who was looking at math and who was looking to spare the players. He was looking for a win, just like always. Bilic, Asanovic too, was clearly disapointed with the conditions the match was played in, the attitude of the Macedonian players and ultimatelly the end result. Asanovic said; "it's been a long time since I saw such a hostile atmosphere on and off the pitch" and that describes it perfectly. This team, especially these young guys we have didn't deserve such an atmosphere. We lost, end of story, but this loss was not welcomed by anyone in the team. All math and talk of fixing matches aside, we didn't want to and didn't deserve to lose like this.
And in all honesty, I'd rather see us leave all math behind and just play every match 100% going for the win. History thought us, we aren't very good in such situations and we always end up underestimating opponents. Bring on Italy, France, anyone, we'll give them a run for the money, we have the coach, the staff and players to go optimistic to the Euro next year.
And yeah, lets beat England and cement our dominance in this group stage which was clearly obvious, even though this result doesn't suggest it.
