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[s4tch]

I'm in the middle on this one, yes Marotta did his fair share of mistakes...

nobody is perfect, he made plenty of mistakes too. berna and costa were way too expensive, higuain too, midfield wasn't properly addressed for a few seasons, bbc's replacement never really started, vidal was sold below his market price, those are legit remarks

but if you look at the bigger picture, the squad was sustainable, finances were sustainable, we kept winning domestically, we had a competitive squad in europe, juve was a solid top5 team on the uefa rankings. neither of these applies to jj once marotta left

he made samp a cl team, then he left and samp got relegated. he built a serial winner team at juve, when he left, chaos took over and inda became champions after like a decade of sucking ass. it's not that hard to connect the dots

and again, he's not perfect. he's still better than anyone we had ever since, and it's not even close. bottom line is that firing him had nothing else but negative consequences

 

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[PhRoZeN]

How i wait till the day we buy low and sold high, but to do that we need a reputation and on the pitch performances that reflects the price (allegri), and more importantly a stubborn management that wont say yes to the first or second bid (management). It's like we're in a limbo, we've taken the right path by bringing in nextgen players, but we dont have leaders in the squad, nor have we really dived deeply into the youth market to bring in quality. Almost every top club out there, have a young starlet or two that they can use or sell for high money. Our closest starlet is Fagioli and no doubt we would get peanuts for him. Another reason to say fuck serie A (environment).

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nobody is perfect, he made plenty of mistakes too. berna and costa were way too expensive, higuain too, midfield wasn't properly addressed for a few seasons, bbc's replacement never really started, vidal was sold below his market price, those are legit remarks

but if you look at the bigger picture, the squad was sustainable, finances were sustainable, we kept winning domestically, we had a competitive squad in europe, juve was a solid top5 team on the uefa rankings. neither of these applies to jj once marotta left

he made samp a cl team, then he left and samp got relegated. he built a serial winner team at juve, when he left, chaos took over and inda became champions after like a decade of sucking ass. it's not that hard to connect the dots

and again, he's not perfect. he's still better than anyone we had ever since, and it's not even close. bottom line is that firing him had nothing else but negative consequences

Oh I agree, i'm not sure if you read my whole post. I'd bring him in, but we need a plan to transition. It's not sustainable long term to keep marotta, the deadwoods will keep piling up and no-one wants to leave a dominating team easily. You can argue not his problem, but thats what buying old and cheap does. Thing is we can revel in the success under him, but we couldnt achieve the plan of integrating youth. I'm gonna be honest i've never liked our football even in the good old days, i mean i have to go far back as Zidane and ADP days when i thoroughly enjoyed football. With marotta we were solid, solid with experience; having both good football and success is what everyone wants. Good energetic football brings money, results bring success and for a team like ours we need both.

 

[Bianconero81]

Damn, there goes Scamacca @Bianconero81

 

[DAiDEViL]

A livestream from your basement?

 

[Bianconero81]

A livestream from your basement?

She looks too young - jailbait. I don't want to end up in trouble with the authorities, so they have to be 20+

 

[JuveJay]

Meanwhile if we signed Scammacca there would be riots.

I don't know anything about Ndicka other than him being pretty decent and free. But you do get the feeling if he was actually good he'd be going to the PL.

Aouar the eternal talent. This is a guy in decline at 24. And Scamacca. Seems like a Roma mercato to me.

 

[s4tch]

I don't know anything about Ndicka other than him being pretty decent and free. But you do get the feeling if he was actually good he'd be going to the PL.

Aouar the eternal talent. This is a guy in decline at 24. And Scamacca. Seems like a Roma mercato to me.

this

i'd also add that i jumped very early on the aouar (and ndombele) hype train and i still think that aouar is a special talent. an experienced coach like mourinho can make him useful again. on a free transfer, he's worth the gamble

 

[Post Ironic]

some of those depths were reached also due to the decline that started under Marotta. the plusvalenza problem was inherited, the squad was getting old and already back then we had a lot of deadwood.

I've no doubt he'd have steered the ship in a better direction than Tici, but in hindsight with Covid looming, our big money bets Higuain, Berna, Costa losing all of their value + the structure of the squad there still would've been a significant dip from the times we were a top team in Europe, it was inevitable.

Not really, given that if we don’t buy Ronaldo for 100 mil and give him 60 mil a year in wages we have a huge amount of money to play with, even more so given the capital investments by Exor.

Add to that Marotta left over Agnelli and Tootsie wanting to invest in Ronaldo while he wanted to invest in rejuvenating the squad. Could he have failed in that? Sure. But going by the success he has had at Inter now, seems unlikely.

 

[Lion]

people need to stop re writing facts about 90m higuain.

that season napoli pushed juve to the limit and the guy broke scoring records in serie a scoring 36 goals. juventus needed a goal scoring CF to partner dybala.

in one move, juventus weakened napoli and strengthened juve. higuain scored lots of important goals and juve went on to CL final with him.


when you think 90m on higuain is a waste, remember blahovic at 75m and chiesa at 60m and kean at 35m. that's what a waste looks like

 

[Raphaël]

people need to stop re writing facts about 90m higuain.

that season napoli pushed juve to the limit and the guy broke scoring records in serie a scoring 36 goals. juventus needed a goal scoring CF to partner dybala.

in one move, juventus weakened napoli and strengthened juve. higuain scored lots of important goals and juve went on to CL final with him.


when you think 90m on higuain is a waste, remember blahovic at 75m and chiesa at 60m and kean at 35m. that's what a waste looks like

Paying 90 M Higuin, it's not a problem. Paying 100 M Ronaldo, it's not a problem. But the problem for the 2 is age, Real and Napoli enjoyed best years of these 2 players and in addition sell them extremely expensive to us.

 

[JuveJay]

people need to stop re writing facts about 90m higuain.

that season napoli pushed juve to the limit and the guy broke scoring records in serie a scoring 36 goals. juventus needed a goal scoring CF to partner dybala.

in one move, juventus weakened napoli and strengthened juve. higuain scored lots of important goals and juve went on to CL final with him.


when you think 90m on higuain is a waste, remember blahovic at 75m and chiesa at 60m and kean at 35m. that's what a waste looks like

Agree on Higuain. Said about 45 times that the €90m fee is what it is, either we signed him for that or we had zero chance of getting him. We chose to do it and we got the CL final, it nearly worked but not enough.

 

[Strickland]

people need to stop re writing facts about 90m higuain.

that season napoli pushed juve to the limit and the guy broke scoring records in serie a scoring 36 goals. juventus needed a goal scoring CF to partner dybala.

in one move, juventus weakened napoli and strengthened juve. higuain scored lots of important goals and juve went on to CL final with him.


when you think 90m on higuain is a waste, remember blahovic at 75m and chiesa at 60m and kean at 35m. that's what a waste looks like

Napoli were not weakened, they were stronger and earned more points after selling Higuain..

 

[PhRoZeN]

Paying 90 M Higuin, it's not a problem. Paying 100 M Ronaldo, it's not a problem. But the problem for the 2 is age, Real and Napoli enjoyed best years of these 2 players and in addition sell them extremely expensive to us.

You saved me typing and just to add a decent sporting director can still get good money for Vlahovic and Chiesa. They still have potential. Kean, well we made money and we lost money, i'll let the mathematicians figure that one out.

 

[Akshen]

Wish i could hear such comment from one of Juve stars for once.

 

[Strickland]

Not really, given that if we don’t buy Ronaldo for 100 mil and give him 60 mil a year in wages we have a huge amount of money to play with, even more so given the capital investments by Exor.

Add to that Marotta left over Agnelli and Tootsie wanting to invest in Ronaldo while he wanted to invest in rejuvenating the squad. Could he have failed in that? Sure. But going by the success he has had at Inter now, seems unlikely.

If we dont buy Ronaldo, invest wisely and after Chelsea Conte goes to Juve instead of Inter maybe in 2 years that team can be rejuvenated, I can imagine that happening.

 

[Post Ironic]

If we dont buy Ronaldo, invest wisely and after Chelsea Conte goes to Juve instead of Inter maybe in 2 years that team can be rejuvenated, I can imagine that happening.

For the most part, Beppe did invest wisely at both Juve and now Inter. He make mistakes, sure, but so has every sporting director. We keep him, we are undoubtedly in a better position fiscally and squad-wise today. Especially if we made a smart coaching hire in summer 2019, whether that’s Conte or another coach. Even Inzaghi would have been better than Sarri, more so given that he seems to be quite a good cup coach, both domestic and in Europe.

 

[s4tch]

Agree on Higuain. Said about 45 times that the €90m fee is what it is, either we signed him for that or we had zero chance of getting him. We chose to do it and we got the CL final, it nearly worked but not enough.

with higuain i didn't mean to criticize the player himself. i also think that he did fine on the pitch. not 90m fine, but that's not the point. what i meant is that marotta often gets criticized for not investing the pogba money on midfielders, which is a valid point. we paid the release clause of pjanic, he was a bargain for 32m, but other than that, a free khedira was the best beppe did after selling pogba, which isn't an awful lot to be fair

 

[DAiDEViL]

Wish i could hear such comment from one of Juve stars for once.

Talk is cheap.

 

[Akshen]

Talk is cheap.

He did sign a lomg extension too though

 

[Osman]

Talk is cheap.

He walked the walk by agreeing a new long contract with Milan with no release contract. Which is a rare thing for a Jose Mendes client. Who is essentially the best player in the league.


I defenitely expected him to leave and not re-sign with new contract this summer. So suprised me so far.