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[Bianconero81]

The Magic that got us Higuain for 90 million, weakened our midfield year after year (never properly replacing Vidal), and sold Vidal and Coman for peanuts? OK.

Yes, he has done a marvelous job for Inter, and he was good for us, but it was time to move on.

The mistake was not letting Marotta go, but allowing Tootsie to replace him, hiring Sarri, Pirlo and bringing Failegri back.

 

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[Osman]

No wrong still habibi, the mistake was DEFENITELY letting Marotta go. We have painfully learned that for past 5 years. The depths of lows we reached litterally as soon as he left.



You can defenitely critique and judge his mishaps, but how key the insanely competent hand he steered our ship with cant be stressed enough.

 

[Bianconero81]

It was wrong to let him go because of how events transpired. However, had we released Marotta and brought in someone like Luis Campos, Andrea Berta or even Cristiano Guintoli back then, we would not be in this mess.

 

[s4tch]

It was wrong to let him go because of how events transpired. However, had we released Marotta and brought in someone like Luis Campos, Andrea Berta or even Cristiano Guintoli back then, we would not be in this mess.

letting marotta go was still a mistake. agnelli's arrogance not only weakened juventus, but certainly strengthened inda, which is unacceptable. look at how adl resists to release giuntoli. he knows that giuntoli is an effective director, he knows that he can't keep the guy for too long, but he tries to delay it as much as possible. and aa gifted marotta to inda.

marotta is the best in italy and one of the best around in europe. you keep him until you can, easy. bringing him back is an other matter. but letting him go was easily the worst decision of the post-calciopoli era.

 

[Strickland]

No wrong still habibi, the mistake was DEFENITELY letting Marotta go. We have painfully learned that for past 5 years. The depths of lows we reached litterally as soon as he left.

You can defenitely critique and judge his mishaps, but how key the insanely competent hand he steered our ship with cant be stressed enough.

some of those depths were reached also due to the decline that started under Marotta. the plusvalenza problem was inherited, the squad was getting old and already back then we had a lot of deadwood.

I've no doubt he'd have steered the ship in a better direction than Tici, but in hindsight with Covid looming, our big money bets Higuain, Berna, Costa losing all of their value + the structure of the squad there still would've been a significant dip from the times we were a top team in Europe, it was inevitable.

 

[JuveJay]

Marotta will do his magic again.

Chelsea will get Onana for alot of money, Marotta will get Lukaku and Koulibaly (could even see them go on loans)

Then he sell Gosens and buys Carlos Augusto for less money.

Then Frattesi/SMS or Scalvini.

Biggest mistake ever to let go of Marotta.

These are all common sense moves. Some short term, some longer. He just shuffles the pack around.

It remains to be seen if we are going to take advantage of the inevitable fire sale at Chelsea, but I'm pretty sure whoever we sign will end up a dud, going by our recent track record.

 

[Akshen]

plus Scammacca as Dzeko replacement. They are pretty well build team. But this is what happens when u really decide if u play with wing backs and full backs before the season starts. If u play 3 or 2 at the back before the season starts, if u play 2 or 3 in mid before the season starts, if u play 1 or 2 strikers before the season starts.
For Juve thats not the case, we buy Di Maria to play him as SS, we have 3 fullbacks, one wing back and one guy who can play both (Cuads).
We buy Kean for CF spot, then in the season our coach decides that Kean is not a CF, but winger and we loan Milik, when we buy Milik, our coach decides Kean is actually a CF and we are stuck with 3 CFs with one, not getting playing time.
We buy Zakaria for peanuts play him in 15 games and decide that he is not fit for our tactics and loan him out.
There is no strategy here at all and imo its both on sporting managment and Allegri.

 

[Strickland]

These are all common sense moves. Some short term, some longer. He just shuffles the pack around.

It remains to be seen if we are going to take advantage of the inevitable fire sale at Chelsea, but I'm pretty sure whoever we sign will end up a dud, going by our recent track record.

both Lukaku and Koulibaly are on problematic wages though. Lukaku was on 7.5m at Inter, then went to Chelsea, got a bump to 10.8m and I've no idea if he's eligible for growth decree. Koulibaly was on 6m at Napoli, went to Chelsea and was bumped to 9.8m net, he would have to spend another season at Chelsea to become eligible for growth decree. tbh I wouldn't want either at those wages, Lukaku seems to be troubled by injuries and Koulibaly is a CB. a damn good one, but still a CB.

 

[Akshen]

btw Roma is getting Ndicka, after Aouar free transfer, pretty good deal.

 

[DAiDEViL]

btw Roma is getting Ndicka, after Aouar free transfer, pretty good deal.

Kinda surprising that he didn't sign for a prem club. His wages are prolly decent. We should have been after him as well.

 

[Akshen]

Scammacca, Ndicka and Aouar is pretty decent mercato.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Damn, there goes Scamacca @Bianconero81

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

marotta praising still going on here is loathsome. you can't even realize it was all downhill for us since 2015. then again, you guys also thought allegri is a good manager and celebrated his second coming. that is how bad you are at understanding football.

i fully support marotta's work at inter. i hope he brings that peanut brained defender and the furniture with zero to none skills with ball striker from chelsea. then they will have a squad full of old rejects who worth jack shit if you want to get rid of them. it was truly regretful that he missed his main target nacho though.

 

[DAiDEViL]

marotta praising still going on here is loathsome. you can't even realize it was all downhill for us since 2015. then again, you guys also thought allegri is a good manager and celebrated his second coming. that is how bad you are at understanding football.

i fully support marotta's work at inter. i hope he brings that peanut brained defender and the furniture with zero to none skills with ball striker from chelsea. then they will have a squad full of old rejects who worth jack shit if you want to get rid of them. it was truly regretful that he missed his main target nacho though.

Dunning Turk strikes again.

 

[PhRoZeN]

I'm in the middle on this one, yes Marotta did his fair share of mistakes. Yes, there were many happy to see him go and yes, the appointment of ticci influenced our feelings for the great man. Its a hindsight bias.

We were not to know how incompetent ticci would turn out. We did know how difficult it became to sell marottas dead wood, tici decided to use his own valuating algorithms in helping to do that. Inter will have the same issues that we had, but they also have a team that is built to deliver in short term. Finances screwed us, buying low selling lower worked till it could, on the other hand ticis buy higher sell low screwed us even more. That said marotta was great for us, but not for one to win our CL obsessesion, unless he got lucky. Helping us to win countless leagues, shouldn't be taken away from him. Agnelli wanted us to go the next level, but knows we don't have the finances, yet he goes and approves the buying of Ronaldo because somehow that will improve our finances. Agnelli reminds me of the kid who always looks over at their rivals to see how he can improve, and then thinks as entrepreneur and gambles like it's his first business. Stability was important, and for that marotta should be praised (other than the 90m higgy fuck up).

Right now, we need marotta again, but once we're back on top of serie A, I agree we need to find a better replacement.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Scammacca, Ndicka and Aouar is pretty decent mercato.

Meanwhile if we signed Scammacca there would be riots.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Meanwhile if we signed Scammacca there would be riots.

Cause we are not Roma.

 

[Mokku]

Marotta gets massive credit for building a solid foundation, he made his mistakes when trying to move us into the most elite group but the fact is, we probably needed that 90M player to push us over the line and win the CL. Higuain though, was not the answer. He's done the same with Lukaku who like Higuain, choked hard at the vital moment. Taking that gamble meant overlooking other players but I see the process and appreciate that he did some risk management.

Tici saw a declining squad but still got Ronaldo thinking he would do miracles in the CL. That was naive because we're stuck with a bunch of finished players now. I love Ronaldo's time with us but we cut corners everywhere to accommodate him and when he took his goals and left us, we were left exposed. That is pure gambling along with poor managers, Ramsey and Arthur etc.

 

[Scottish]

I'm in the middle on this one, yes Marotta did his fair share of mistakes. Yes, there were many happy to see him go and yes, the appointment of ticci influenced our feelings for the great man. Its a hindsight bias.

We were not to know how incompetent ticci would turn out. We did know how difficult it became to sell marottas dead wood, tici decided to use his own valuating algorithms in helping to do that. Inter will have the same issues that we had, but they also have a team that is built to deliver in short term. Finances screwed us, buying low selling lower worked till it could, on the other hand ticis buy higher sell low screwed us even more. That said marotta was great for us, but not for one to win our CL obsessesion, unless he got lucky. Helping us to win countless leagues, shouldn't be taken away from him. Agnelli wanted us to go the next level, but knows we don't have the finances, yet he goes and approves the buying of Ronaldo because somehow that will improve our finances. Agnelli reminds me of the kid who always looks over at their rivals to see how he can improve, and then thinks as entrepreneur and gambles like it's his first business. Stability was important, and for that marotta should be praised (other than the 90m higgy fuck up).

Right now, we need marotta again, but once we're back on top of serie A, I agree we need to find a better replacement.

In fact I recall even while Marotta was still here Tuzzers were calling Paratici the real power behind the throne, and when he was promoted to Marotta's job people were cool with it.

 

[Akshen]

In fact I recall even while Marotta was still here Tuzzers were calling Paratici the real power behind the throne, and when he was promoted to Marotta's job people were cool with it.

Sampa president was saying the same, that he is not missing Marotta, but Tici. Maybe Tici is good at scouting talent and finding a good player for the team, but he was given the financial powers and it seems he has no idea about that and sinked our ship. Marotta on the other hand is top manager when it comes to managing finances and creating a team.