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[Firestarter]

Looks like Kolo Toure

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http://www.football-italia.net/61959/united-nainggolan
@Fred

I remember you laughed at me last summer when I said man utd would have done well to sign Nainggolan as their missing piece in midfield

I'd still laugh cause they would be overpaying yet again. Now if that €40m was for Pjanić it's a different story.

 

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[Fred]

Looks like Kolo Toure

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http://www.football-italia.net/61959/united-nainggolan
@Fred

I remember you laughed at me last summer when I said man utd would have done well to sign Nainggolan as their missing piece in midfield

No, you remember wrongly. I laughed at you for saying that Naingollan is clearly better than Fellaini, which he's not.

I mean obviously he's performing much better in Roma than Fellaini is at United. But that has more to do with Fellaini being a terrible fit at United, and for the most part he wasn't being played in his natural position as he was at Everton.

Naingollan is an average player, I do not think he'd add anything to United.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

I'd still laugh cause they would be overpaying yet again. Now if that €40m was for Pjanić it's a different story.

40 mill is a lot even for a player like nainggolan, but man utd could have paid a lot less for a decent player and someone who would fill quite a void in their midfield, something Fred disagreed with

 

[Firestarter]

40 mill is a lot even for a player like nainggolan, but man utd could have paid a lot less for a decent player and someone who would fill quite a void in their midfield, something Fred disagreed with

I know a player that had that could have filled that void for Free.99 doe

 

[Badass J Elkann]

No, you remember wrongly. I laughed at you for saying that Naingollan is clearly better than Fellaini, which he's not.

no you didn't

http://forum.juventuz.org/threads/3...l-or-rumors)?p=4434121&viewfull=1#post4434121

"They should have gone for Nainggolan instead? What a ridiculous thing to say, and way to overrate a glorified box to box midfielder. Roma is as good as it will get for Nainggolan, he has nowhere near the quality required to solve United's midfield problems. "

 

[Firestarter]

@Fred when will Stephane Ruffier make the move to a big(ger) club?

 

[Fred]

no you didn't

http://forum.juventuz.org/threads/3...l-or-rumors)?p=4434121&viewfull=1#post4434121

"They should have gone for Nainggolan instead? What a ridiculous thing to say, and way to overrate a glorified box to box midfielder. Roma is as good as it will get for Nainggolan, he has nowhere near the quality required to solve United's midfield problems. "

Why didn't you complete the quote?

So I was comparing him to Mata not Naingollan, thats even better

But seriously I stand by that. Roma is as good as it gets for Naingollan, he's an average player with very good physical qualities. Mata was one of the most creative attacking midfielders in the EPL when United bought him, so to say that they should've gone for Naingollan than someone like Mata is still a ridiculous thing to say, even with the benefit of hindsight, after Mata has so far failed at United.

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@Fred when will Stephane Ruffier make the move to a big(ger) club?

He's having a really good season with St Etienne, though a lot of credit has to go to their defense which has been quite mean this season. I wouldn't be surprised if he was snapped up next summer, Ligue clubs have a hard time keeping hold of their players even with the Russian, Turkish leagues these past few years.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Why didn't you complete the quote?

So I was comparing him to Mata not Naingollan, thats even better

But seriously I stand by that. Roma is as good as it gets for Naingollan, he's an average player with very good physical qualities. Mata was one of the most creative attacking midfielders in the EPL when United bought him, so to say that they should've gone for Naingollan than someone like Mata is still a ridiculous thing to say, even with the benefit of hindsight, after Mata has so far failed at United.

we weren't really comparing mata to nainggolan, it was more why man utd needed a player like nainggolan than mata and I still think they do

 

[Dostoevsky]

Naingollan, he's an average player with very good physical qualities.

lol cmon Fred, that's rubbish

he's good enough to start for plenty of teams and a really good midfielder.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

lol cmon Fred, that's rubbish

he's good enough to start for plenty of teams and a really good midfielder.

 

[Alex-444]

Cassano to terek

https://twitter.com/Alex_Teixeira7/status/560483816809451520

 

[Fred]

lol cmon Fred, that's rubbish

he's good enough to start for plenty of teams and a really good midfielder.

I disagree, I see nothing above ordinary in him.

Who would he start for?

He definitely wouldn't get a sniff at Chelsea or City. At United it would depend on the formation they use, right now they play with one defensive midfielder, Naingollan doesn't have neither the positional sense defensively nor the technical ability to be the midfielder that operates as a deeplying playmaker. I'd take Carrick over him every day of the week.

I don't need to tell you he wouldn't get a sniff at Juve either, I'm not even going to bring up the Spanish duo and Bayern Munich.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, Roma is as good as it will get for him. When Strootman gets back to full fitness and regains part of his old form, he probably will get benched at Roma too.

 

[Dostoevsky]

I disagree, I see nothing above ordinary in him.

Who would he start for?

He definitely wouldn't get a sniff at Chelsea or City. At United it would depend on the formation they use, right now they play with one defensive midfielder, Naingollan doesn't have neither the positional sense defensively nor the technical ability to be the midfielder that operates as a deeplying playmaker. I'd take Carrick over him every day of the week.

I don't need to tell you he wouldn't get a sniff at Juve either, I'm not even going to bring up the Spanish duo and Bayern Munich.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, Roma is as good as it will get for him. When Strootman gets back to full fitness and regains part of his old form, he probably will get benched at Roma too.

Woot? He's actually pretty great at that. So far in the season he's Roma's best midfielder and they are quite a different team without him. He proved his worth there and it's quite normal that we're seeing him linked with other clubs (Juve being among them, eventhough I doubt we'll sign him (or his other 50%)). Although I do believe we'd be great with Pogba - Radja - Vidal here. He could easily replace or rotate with Marchisio if needed. Easily.

He might not start for teams that have midfielders who are currently world class and cost over 50mln euros easily, but the way you describe Radja is simply wrong and like you never seen him play because he's simply not that.

 

[Mister]

Dimarzio: Doumbia to roma

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/serie-a/roma/roma-cska-mosca-si-chiude-per-doumbia-i-dettagli/

 

[chester]

Woot? He's actually pretty great at that. So far in the season he's Roma's best midfielder and they are quite a different team without him. He proved his worth there and it's quite normal that we're seeing him linked with other clubs (Juve being among them, eventhough I doubt we'll sign him (or his other 50%)). Although I do believe we'd be great with Pogba - Radja - Vidal here. He could easily replace or rotate with Marchisio if needed. Easily.

He might not start for teams that have midfielders who are currently world class and cost over 50mln euros easily, but the way you describe Radja is simply wrong and like you never seen him play because he's simply not that.

Correct, even within Belgium many people say that the midfield for the NT should be Witsel/Nainggolan instead of Witsel/Fellaini.

 

[zizinho]

I disagree, I see nothing above ordinary in him.

Who would he start for?

He definitely wouldn't get a sniff at Chelsea or City. At United it would depend on the formation they use, right now they play with one defensive midfielder, Naingollan doesn't have neither the positional sense defensively nor the technical ability to be the midfielder that operates as a deeplying playmaker. I'd take Carrick over him every day of the week.

right now they are. but werent they after that Carvalho guy in the summer who is a similar player to Radja? also, i think for a while now (3-4 years) that United lacks and needs more physical presence in their midfield. in other words, they are (too) soft. Radja would solve that, and i think hes very underrated among people who dont watch him regularly...

I don't need to tell you he wouldn't get a sniff at Juve either, I'm not even going to bring up the Spanish duo and Bayern Munich.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, Roma is as good as it will get for him. When Strootman gets back to full fitness and regains part of his old form, he probably will get benched at Roma too.

that also might or might not be true. there is a high cance that Strootman could leave after this season, so he would definitely have a starting spot then. or Pjanic. besides, Cagliari are apparently asking too much for his other half -> probably has some offers form the EPL, so he might likely be the one that leaves after this season

 

[Dostoevsky]

Correct, even within Belgium many people say that the midfield for the NT should be Witsel/Nainggolan instead of Witsel/Fellaini.

It was actually fucking retarded how he wasn't called up for Belgium for the WC. It was nothing but a pathetic decision.

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Oh and lol, yes, Radja would easily start for United and make their midfield much better.

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Dimarzio: Doumbia to roma

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/serie-a/roma/roma-cska-mosca-si-chiude-per-doumbia-i-dettagli/

@frzl told ya

 

[Fred]

Woot? He's actually pretty great at that. So far in the season he's Roma's best midfielder and they are quite a different team without him. He proved his worth there and it's quite normal that we're seeing him linked with other clubs (Juve being among them, eventhough I doubt we'll sign him (or his other 50%)). Although I do believe we'd be great with Pogba - Radja - Vidal here. He could easily replace or rotate with Marchisio if needed. Easily.

He might not start for teams that have midfielders who are currently world class and cost over 50mln euros easily, but the way you describe Radja is simply wrong and like you never seen him play because he's simply not that.

I know he's playing well this season, but can you honestly say that if or when all Roma's midfielders are fit and in form, that he'd be a definite starter?

I disagree about his defensive positional sense, do you think he can play as the lone defensive midfielder, I've seen him being played there a few times for Roma, but only in games against the smaller teams and/or when De Rossi and Keita are not around.

Carrick isn't a 50M player, he's a 33 year old English midfielder who is close to the end of his career. Matic isn't a 50M midfielder either, he wouldn't get a sniff with him IMO. I see you disagreeing with my assessment of Radja, but are we really disagreeing? My statement to BD was that United shouldn't be looking to buy him? do you disagree with that? I also said that Roma is as good as it will get for him? If you disagree with that, please tell me who he'd start for?

If you're saying he's a good midfielder for Roma, I have no problem with that. I don't think the likes of United for example should be after him though, he's not that good.

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It was actually fucking retarded how he wasn't called up for Belgium for the WC. It was nothing but a pathetic decision.

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Oh and lol, yes, Radja would easily start for United and make their midfield much better.

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@frzl told ya

Damn man, you made me write that long arse post, I only caught this part now.

But seriously, no he won't, absolutely not. Like I said, I'd take Carrick over him any day of the week. The guy is very underrated imo.

 

[chester]

It was actually fucking retarded how he wasn't called up for Belgium for the WC. It was nothing but a pathetic decision.

Correct, he kind of was the victim about the whole Januzaj story.
We wanted to be sure Januzaj would pick Belgium so (I think), we had to take him to WC and Radja had to stay home because of Fellaini, Witsel, Dembele and Defour.
Although I would have left Defour or Dembele at home since they were not playing for their teams.

 

[Fred]

Correct, even within Belgium many people say that the midfield for the NT should be Witsel/Nainggolan instead of Witsel/Fellaini.

That's because Fellaini was never a good defensive midfielder, ever. At Everton he became prominent when he played in a more offensive position closer to goal, where his aerial prowess can be used to better effect.

If I were Belgium manager I'd play Naingollan Witsel right now, Dembele has really dipped in the past year or so, I remember back when he was at Fulham and when he first joined Tottenham, he was a beast.