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Red

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If Milan get that shitload of cash, it's going to be extremely tough for them to get any sort of value when buying replacements.

They can hardly plead poverty when they'll have just trousered 70m and saved 30m+ on wages.
 

Jem83

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If Milan get that $#@!load of cash, it's going to be extremely tough for them to get any sort of value when buying replacements.

They can hardly plead poverty when they'll have just trousered 70m and saved 30m+ on wages.
It could be tough, but Galliani is an old fox when it comes to the mercato. If Milan allow this to happen, I'm sure they have something lined up already. I have no doubts that they will be a force next season no matter what happens. These are two great players, no doubt about it, but let's think about it. T. Silva, although very good, is an overrated defender. If someone comes in with a 40-50 million offer, you definitely take it. No questions asked. Ibra? Great player, but he's not getting any younger.

It may seem like a dumb move from Milan's point of view, but if they utilize this cash properly they can become stronger than they were. It would be good for the league, but not for our title ambitions.
 

blondu

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Nov 9, 2006
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thiago wasn't that useful for milan so them selling him for a big sum will be good for them atm..but after 2,3 years thiago can develop in a wc defender.
 

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I'm not making any noises about writing Milan off, unlike some.

I agree that Silva is hugely overrated and that Milan are sensible to sell Ibrahimovic at the last point they could get big money for him.

I'd expect them to sign a CB (Dede), a CF (Tevez/Dzeko/Carroll on loan :shifty:) and either a CM (Diarra/Sahin) or a LB (Kolarov). They could probably do that with a little over half the 70m and paying less wages than they did to Ibrahimovic and Silva.

They'll move towards actually having a team for the first time in a while, instead of just being completely reliant on a couple of talented individuals.

However, it'll pose a problem that Milan haven't had in a long time - they are going to have several new players needing time to settle in and that will only be made harder with them having released so many 'Senators' over the last year or two.

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Serie A will be like tLigue 1 and we will be like Lyon from 2001-2002.
It's all cyclical.

Teams like Inter and Milan need to put their houses in order before Serie A can really start to recover and build itself up again.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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The gap between us and them looks like it will be huge, though - bigger than the difference between inter and the rest after Calciopoli, and it might only grow as we become more self-sufficient financially.
 

Jem83

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I'm not making any noises about writing Milan off, unlike some.

I agree that Silva is hugely overrated and that Milan are sensible to sell Ibrahimovic at the last point they could get big money for him.

I'd expect them to sign a CB (Dede), a CF (Tevez/Dzeko/Carroll on loan :shifty:) and either a CM (Diarra/Sahin) or a LB (Kolarov). They could probably do that with a little over half the 70m and paying less wages than they did to Ibrahimovic and Silva.

They'll move towards actually having a team for the first time in a while, instead of just being completely reliant on a couple of talented individuals.

However, it'll pose a problem that Milan haven't had in a long time - they are going to have several new players needing time to settle in and that will only be made harder with them having released so many 'Senators' over the last year or two.

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It's all cyclical.

Teams like Inter and Milan need to put their houses in order before Serie A can really start to recover and build itself up again.
I agree on all counts. As for the highlighted part, this is a very important point that's easy to overlook.
 

Red

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The gap between us and them looks like it will be huge, though - bigger than the difference between inter and the rest after Calciopoli, and it might only grow as we become more self-sufficient financially.
People were speaking about not being in the CL being worth about eight points last season, so Juve need to strengthen enough to at least maintain their points total from last season.

Then there is the fact that Juve played last season with virtually no injuries - something that is not likely to be repeated, however well the coaching/physio staff work.

Now, those issues may be taken care of by Juve adding depth, as they have been doing.

Conte has no experience of coaching a team that has to play every three days for extended periods of the season, so we'll have to see how he adjusts.

Then there is the issue of Juve going into this season with pressure on them right from the start and it's unclear how some of the players will respond to that.

Will Conte be able to keep them as motivated and focused as he did last season? It's easy to make a slow start after winning the title and is more likely to happen when you have a lot of players who haven't won before.

Juve are certainly going to go into the new season as the strongest team on paper and with the best squad, but there are still plenty of uncertainties going into the season.

Inter might go and pull off a season like Juve did last year. :boh:
 

Joe

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I'm not making any noises about writing Milan off, unlike some.

I agree that Silva is hugely overrated and that Milan are sensible to sell Ibrahimovic at the last point they could get big money for him.

I'd expect them to sign a CB (Dede), a CF (Tevez/Dzeko/Carroll on loan :shifty:) and either a CM (Diarra/Sahin) or a LB (Kolarov). They could probably do that with a little over half the 70m and paying less wages than they did to Ibrahimovic and Silva.

They'll move towards actually having a team for the first time in a while, instead of just being completely reliant on a couple of talented individuals.

However, it'll pose a problem that Milan haven't had in a long time - they are going to have several new players needing time to settle in and that will only be made harder with them having released so many 'Senators' over the last year or two.

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It's all cyclical.

Teams like Inter and Milan need to put their houses in order before Serie A can really start to recover and build itself up again.
I'm not writing off Milan, I laugh at them because I find it funny they're selling their best players.

I agree Silva is overrated, he isn't a 45M defender but he's pretty damn good. However he's too much of a pussy IMO, I'd always prefer Chiellini no matter how sloppy he can be sometimes. He's a warrior.

I agree that Milan can build quite the competitive team, but it'll take a season or two for things to gel together.
 

Jem83

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I'm not writing off Milan, I laugh at them because I find it funny they're selling their best players.

I agree Silva is overrated, he isn't a 45M defender but he's pretty damn good. However he's too much of a pussy IMO, I'd always prefer Chiellini no matter how sloppy he can be sometimes. He's a warrior.

I agree that Milan can build quite the competitive team, but it'll take a season or two for things to gel together.
Gee, that wasn't Freudian :p
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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inter might not be as bad as last year - that will be a hard feat to match - but their squad is weaker, so far. It all depends on if Stramaccioni can do what Ranieri and the others fail to do and motivate the team and sustain a harmonic dressing room with all its egos while fixing the psychological damage from last year. He might pull off a Conte/Pep, but chances are he won't.

Juve, if the injury free season was a result of the physios' work, why can't it be repeated, especially with the added depth?
 

Red

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I agree Silva is overrated, he isn't a 45M defender but he's pretty damn good. However he's too much of a pussy IMO
Yeah, that's my problem with him, too.

If he's as good a defender as people make him out to be he should be imposing himself on the game and taking far more responsibility than he does.

Way past it Nesta was still putting in performances Silva could only dream of in this last season.
 

Joe

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Gee, that wasn't Freudian :p
What do you mean?

inter might not be as bad as last year - that will be a hard feat to match - but their squad is weaker, so far. It all depends on if Stramaccioni can do what Ranieri and the others fail to do and motivate the team and sustain a harmonic dressing room with all its egos while fixing the psychological damage from last year. He might pull off a Conte/Pep, but chances are he won't.

Juve, if the injury free season was a result of the physios' work, why can't it be repeated, especially with the added depth?
Milito - Palacio
Sneijder
Cambiasso - Poli - Guarin
Zanetti - Silvestre/Rano - Samuel - Maicon*
Samir/Julio​

They have a team that can cause problems, but what we did in the 2011/2012 was miraculous IMO. We stayed healthy, lucky we weren't playing additional games, etc etc. Something I don't think Inter can recreate.

They'll cause us problems in our derbies, though.
 
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inter might not be as bad as last year - that will be a hard feat to match - but their squad is weaker, so far. It all depends on if Stramaccioni can do what Ranieri and the others fail to do and motivate the team and sustain a harmonic dressing room with all its egos while fixing the psychological damage from last year. He might pull off a Conte/Pep, but chances are he won't.

Juve, if the injury free season was a result of the physios' work, why can't it be repeated, especially with the added depth?
Really? I think it's better.
 
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