Nicolò Rovella (9 Viewers)

tosh_rose

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Aug 21, 2010
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I think if we take a step back, we have paid the value of Portanova and Petrelli for Rovella whose contract was expiring and would have been available for free in a few months.

Regardless of using other players in the Locatelli deal. Both players have a value and could have been used in other deals if not that one. Personally, that does not seem like good business sense to me. Essentially we have paid a few million for a guy we could have got for free. I understand the attitude that if he meets the bonus targets then he must have done well and therefore have no issue. However, that 20m could be used on someone else (assuming it is 20m, the wording is a bit unclear).

It is this short term thinking I really don't like and it will catch up with us, if it hasn't already.

We can celebrate a plusvalenza on a couple of guys. But in truth we would likely have had a plusvalenza on them at some point soon anyway and we will take far more of a hit to our P&L by amortising a potential 40m for Rovella.
I kinda agree with you, but that's not how the club approaches those type of deals, remember how we insisted that Rafia signs a new deal with Lyon so that they can receive a transfer fee instead of losing him for free? That's what I meant by maintaining good relationship with some teams, if that gesture helps us to get Aouar this summer or talented youngster like Cherki in few years then that was a good call from the board and it was worth it. If Genoa develops the next Baggio or Del Piero or Inzaghi in next few years and our good relationship with them provides to be key to sign him up then that gesture they did by structuring deals beneficial for both teams instead of snatching a prized youngster for free would be all worth it, regardless of how Rovella develops and even if Rovella turns out to be a pure crap none of us would give a flying fuck because eventually that helped us sign a real gem. Something like that might happen or won't happen but looks like a risk the club is willing to take so it's not a surprise they acted the way they acted with the Rovella deal.

That's not how I operate on FM though, I act like a shark on 30th of December trying to steal any player I like on expiring contract while he is negotiating with his current club for a new one, but Juventus in real life chose to do it in a different way, we might not like it but from their point of view it does make sense and it can be profitable in the future.

Actually the only thing I disagree with you is that this is a short term thinking, I think it's more like laying the groundwork for eventual long lasting relationships that might and can be profitable for both clubs in question. Would it really turn out to be profitable, I don't know, it might or it won't, is it a good strategy or a bad strategy - don't know, it might be good or not so good, time will tell. That's how the club operates and even if I personally don't fully agree I am honest when I say that I really see the logic in their actions, I really do, even if it was up to me I would probably be an ass and not only sign players on free but convince them not to renew with their current club even if they have an year or more lasting contract...
 

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Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
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So sad, so incredibly sad, today he has played well, one of their best players and what we saw, that he is another holding DM. Another mediocre Italian DM, like the trillions we have signed in the past decade...
He will add nothing to this team, i doubt he can even compete with Benta.
We will never learn...
 

Gigiventus

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Mar 3, 2017
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What's the point of writing off a talented 19 year old after a match against Juve from Genoa. Chiesa had plenty of bad matches playing against us in a better club.

He was their best midfielder anyway. The bad part of his match was getting smoked by Cuadrado.
 
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    Didn't have the best game, I've seen him play better, but even when he gets beaten or makes a mistake he comes back for more, doesn't just disappear. He has personality on the ball as well, he'll learn.
     

    Badass J Elkann

    It's time to go!!
    Feb 12, 2006
    68,910
    What's the point of writing off a talented 19 year old after a match against Juve from Genoa. Chiesa had plenty of bad matches playing against us in a better club.

    He was their best midfielder anyway. The bad part of his match was getting smoked by Cuadrado.
    Actually that's 2 matches he's been smoked by Juve :D
    I'm not entirely convinced he's ready for us, he's rather unrefined at this stage. I wouldnt be too disappointed if we used him as a transfer pawn for locatelli.
     

    Alin

    FINO ALLA FINE!
    Jul 27, 2015
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    Based on what we’ve seen so far i think he still needs at least another year on loan or he might end up warming the bench for at least half a season here...

    He undoubtedly got the talent and determination in him but he is still obviously very raw, needs more time to grow in an environment where he gets enough space to actually make his mark, could sure be one for the future but for now we should definitely be looking somewhere else when it comes to midfield reinforcements.
     

    rainhard

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    May 5, 2004
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    I kinda agree with you, but that's not how the club approaches those type of deals, remember how we insisted that Rafia signs a new deal with Lyon so that they can receive a transfer fee instead of losing him for free? That's what I meant by maintaining good relationship with some teams, if that gesture helps us to get Aouar this summer or talented youngster like Cherki in few years then that was a good call from the board and it was worth it. If Genoa develops the next Baggio or Del Piero or Inzaghi in next few years and our good relationship with them provides to be key to sign him up then that gesture they did by structuring deals beneficial for both teams instead of snatching a prized youngster for free would be all worth it, regardless of how Rovella develops and even if Rovella turns out to be a pure crap none of us would give a flying fuck because eventually that helped us sign a real gem. Something like that might happen or won't happen but looks like a risk the club is willing to take so it's not a surprise they acted the way they acted with the Rovella deal.

    That's not how I operate on FM though, I act like a shark on 30th of December trying to steal any player I like on expiring contract while he is negotiating with his current club for a new one, but Juventus in real life chose to do it in a different way, we might not like it but from their point of view it does make sense and it can be profitable in the future.

    Actually the only thing I disagree with you is that this is a short term thinking, I think it's more like laying the groundwork for eventual long lasting relationships that might and can be profitable for both clubs in question. Would it really turn out to be profitable, I don't know, it might or it won't, is it a good strategy or a bad strategy - don't know, it might be good or not so good, time will tell. That's how the club operates and even if I personally don't fully agree I am honest when I say that I really see the logic in their actions, I really do, even if it was up to me I would probably be an ass and not only sign players on free but convince them not to renew with their current club even if they have an year or more lasting contract...
    I think hampers and flower board once a year(others anniversary's) are enough to maintain good relationships

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    Amer

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    Feb 13, 2005
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    The way Cuad went around him, lul.

    In your face Rovella!

    You need to learn boy, can't allow grandpas to dribble you.
     

    The Quazis

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    Dec 21, 2012
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    I like him. He has a very good ball control, is comfortable with playing short passes and long balls. He isn't there yet physically but it's normal since he's only 19. Cuadrado burnt him but Rovella isn't the first player in this league that got embarrassed by the Colombian.
     

    Akshen

    Senior Member
    Aug 27, 2010
    10,632
    ppl easily wqrite him off, but dont forget Barella was at similiar level at his age. TBF I didnt want Barella here myself, we should really stop judging young players by one game, also have some trust in Paratici, because we can bash him all we want but this guy has an eye for talent.
     

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