Nicolò Fagioli (82 Viewers)

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Forum butthurt soiboiz like Dingus, Maxi, Hydde gonna have another aneurysm. :lol3:
but but but without mckennie's injury bla bla

also, but but but allegri already ruined fagioli's career

an other possibility: it's bs news, gazzetta knows nothing, mckennie will keep starting for the rest of the year

anyway, i'm happy for fagioli, he's a more useful player than mckennie, wes gets to move to a more fitting league, juve gest some $$$, everyone wins. if mckennie could bring bjerknes to leeds with himself that would be the icing on the cake :snoop:
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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Ikr, this is the same coach who went to the press and threw him under the bus after he scored his first goal because he "didn't defend enough" or some b.s. along those lines. Y'know, the typical gritted teeth response that he reserves for youngsters. But now the throaters expect us to believe that Allegri the mastermind was secretly nurturing him for a starter role all along while he rotted on the bench, and that playing Mckennie instead was just a smokescreen tactic for unlocking Fagioli's potential :lol3:
Those are his brother's words ffs :lol:
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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but but but without mckennie's injury bla bla

also, but but but allegri already ruined fagioli's career

an other possibility: it's bs news, gazzetta knows nothing, mckennie will keep starting for the rest of the year

anyway, i'm happy for fagioli, he's a more useful player than mckennie, wes gets to move to a more fitting league, juve gest some $$$, everyone wins. if mckennie could bring bjerknes to leeds with himself that would be the icing on the cake :snoop:
I wouldn’t want him at Leeds though. Maybe Tottenham or Aston Villa, getting to work with someone like Conte would be good for him. Hopefully it happens and Fagioli gets to start. Then we just need to figure out a new coach.
 
Jun 16, 2020
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But what are valid arguments of waiting with Fagioli so long? Yes, in a broader perspective, starting to play a youngster from the 12th round isn’t very late, but seeing the impact he made and how McKennie was performing, it remains a big question mark for me. Should’ve played in CL earlier aswel. I don’t think that this is a defendable flaw of Allegri.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Hasn't Allegri literally always been like this? He has never rushed a player into the team. He just doesn't care about media pressure to pick young players. I feel like we've had this discussion many times over the years with different players. One player can play with no experience, another can wait for months. There is no blanket rule or apparent bias.

We say "he only plays because of injuries" but Allegri knows there will be injuries at some point and everyone gets their chance. If you play with 3 mids you need 6 CMs. If it's 3 weeks or 3 months to wait it's no difference to him. If he didn't rate him he'd have loaned him. It all depends on the patience of the player, and luckily for us Fagioli has a straight head and seems determined to be a Juve player.

I think the general argument is that if he'd played Fagioli earlier we'd have 5 or 6 more points, but we don't really know that. We should have those points regardless because of our own and official's errors. If Fagioli ends up playing 10 year at Juve the fact he didn't play the first 2 months is going to be a footnote in his career.
 

IlCapitano

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Dec 16, 2012
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But what are valid arguments of waiting with Fagioli so long? Yes, in a broader perspective, starting to play a youngster from the 12th round isn’t very late, but seeing the impact he made and how McKennie was performing, it remains a big question mark for me. Should’ve played in CL earlier aswel. I don’t think that this is a defendable flaw of Allegri.
There are no valid arguments, he should've played earlier. It just isn't some unforgivable mistake that needs to be brought up every 2 minutes.

Maybe they wanted McK to raise his value to sell him, maybe they thought he was better, maybe they wanted Fagioli to 'earn it' etc. Whatever it is he should've played earlier.

Mistake made --> corrected --> move on
 

Dino_mk

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Sep 5, 2007
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There are no valid arguments, he should've played earlier. It just isn't some unforgivable mistake that needs to be brought up every 2 minutes.

Maybe they wanted McK to raise his value to sell him, maybe they thought he was better, maybe they wanted Fagioli to 'earn it' etc. Whatever it is he should've played earlier.

Mistake made --> corrected --> move on
Going out of CL and losing to Haifa is corrected?
Losing vital points against monzas type of teams is forgotten and corrected?
 

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