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The Pado

Filthy Gobbo
Jul 12, 2002
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If you take away a man's right to shit where he wants to shit, there will be armed revolution in the streets. This is a fact.

Unfortuantely, there are people here who have a very limited knowledge of the USA, and that knowledge comes entirely from Michael Moore movies. Now, Mr. Moore makes a good movie, very entertaining, but fact-based he isn't (not all the time at least), and Moore fails to address the "Shit Can Revolution" that is lurking beneath the surface of our society.
 

The Pado

Filthy Gobbo
Jul 12, 2002
9,939
Interesting that La Gazzetta covers this crap baseball championship of ours. Some pics of the celebrations published in La Gazzetta dello Sport:

Edit: Sorry Pado, but that one can't stand - Mikhail
 

Slagathor

Bedpan racing champion
Jul 25, 2001
22,708
++ [ originally posted by Kaiser Franco ] ++
I've no idea how the system works in Belgium tbh. Considering it's supposed to be the same as in Holland, I'd guess the prostitutes should be more protected than elsewhere. But then again Im no expert : maybe Erik knows this stuff.

On a general note, I am under the impression that the sex workers in Amsterdam's red-light district and the likes seem more healthy than those on the streets of Rome, Paris or New York.
I must've explained this before, surely? :undecide:

Well, for those interested:

Prostitution used to be a massive problem in Dutch society. We're a nation at the heart of capitalist Europe; we distribute, transport, connect and move. We have some major logistic crosspoints within our nation and as a result; drug trafficking and even smuggling of people are all serious problems.

Prostitution in Europe is usually conducted by women (to a lesser extent men as well) from 2nd or 3rd world nations, who have been brought here by people smugglers with a promise of a better life. They are forced to work for criminal organisations for very little money (if any at all indeed) and with insane risks to their lives.

The problem kept growing in Holland, until the government decided to put a stop to it. Prostitution was legalised; came under governmental control, and criminal organisations have mostly stopped their dirty business on this front because they could no longer make a profit. They cannot compete with the legal prostitution system.

Modern brothels (the red light districts) are official private companies registered at the chamber of commerce and other organisations. They pay taxes, are subject to hygene laws and other rules. The prositutes (most of them still women but a lot of them men) have trade unions securing their rights, a stable official income, chances of promotion and all the other things you would have in any other 'normal' company.

Though of course, prostitution is often an option desperate people end up in. People who lost their old jobs, are short on money and see no other option but to sell their own bodies, if you will. That's why the government is running various programmes (educational and others) that offers the chance for anyone in the business to quit their job and find something else to do with their other talents. These programmes are intensely stimulated by the government, which has legalised prostitution, but doesn't hold it to be an ideal form of business (or type of life) for the people involved.

Mind you; it's been a number of years since I wrote a report on the subject and I haven't kept up to date with the changes in the sector ever since so I could be wrong on some details. The outlines, however, are true.
 

The Pado

Filthy Gobbo
Jul 12, 2002
9,939
I hate baseball too. I just found it curious that La Gazzetta dello Sport gave a good amount of coverage to the championship series. I only posted the pics from La Gazzetta because they were in such contrast to what I'm used to seeing in the papers. The pic that John deleted was a lone pear-shaped female fan sporting a Chisox pennant while raising her shirt and exposing her breasts. It was kinda funny and not at all sexual. the other was the pic you can see of a pub celebration.

Don't papers usually print pics of the athletes celebrating, and not the drunk fans holed up in some bar?
 

Enron

Tickle Me
Moderator
Oct 11, 2005
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I hate baseball too, but I do have a favorite team. I love Houston. Its where I grew up and my dad took me to games a lot when I was a kid. I dont even really watch the team unless they do exceptionally well, but I do follow their progress in the paper. Is that wierd? Having a sentimental link to something you dont really like?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,141
++ [ originally posted by Holygr4le ] ++


I do not know that much about Detroit in specific and quite frankly that is not interesting. Have you seen Bowling from Columbine? In that movie they take a brutally good example where they have Detroit on one side and then on the other side of the water it’s a completely different ballpark.

And the murder rate (as if it was just the murder rate up for discussion here) in Detroit has something to do about it. Its still in the USA ah? Detroit that is…
Ohh, another Michael Moore topic...yesssss.

No I have not seen Bowling for Columbine and I am not sure if I ever will...it's hard to take anything Michael Moore creates seriously because he is the epitomy of a bias.

You just cannot compare the city of Detroit and America to Canada in this discussion...the latter does not have a comparable city to Detroit, so stating that Canada is superior in the law enforcement area while looking at the Motor City does not make any sense. Then if you compare the crime rate and population between the US and Canada you will find a small difference that cannot exactly be taken seriously..
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,141
++ [ originally posted by 674083912 ] ++
Baseballs better than hockey
Absolutely not. I would like to see some of those fat baseball players stand up on skates...bet they could not even do that. I have played both sports for 8 years and I have to say hockey is more difficult to learn, more difficult to excel at, and certainly more physically demanding...when you compare the two baseball does not even come close to ice hockey. Shame we have such a shitty sport as our "national pastime."
 

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