Nick Against the World (75 Viewers)

Chxta

Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
Nov 1, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Altair ] ++
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this is more info regarding fort myers
:wth: :confused: BTW, where is Nick? He hasn't been here in a while...
 

Slagathor

Bedpan racing champion
Jul 25, 2001
22,708
++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++
Police in my country dont carry guns, the military is not a direct line to my society... so no not really...


Guns arent necessary in a civilised society
With all due respect, Paul (I admire British [English more specific] society after having lived there) but the unarmed police forces on the streets relatively regularly have to call upon armed back-up forces when they notice a situation that requires it. Clearly guns are still necessary in your society as much as in neighbouring ones.

What worries me is that the response time of the forces of law is lengthened by the system of special armed forces; thus increasing the risk of citizens getting hurt.
 

mikhail

Senior Member
Jan 24, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
With all due respect, Paul (I admire British [English more specific] society after having lived there) but the unarmed police forces on the streets relatively regularly have to call upon armed back-up forces when they notice a situation that requires it. Clearly guns are still necessary in your society as much as in neighbouring ones.

What worries me is that the response time of the forces of law is lengthened by the system of special armed forces; thus increasing the risk of citizens getting hurt.
Ireland is similarly gun-free country, and I don't quite agree with you Erik. Certainly, there is an added delay in getting armed police on the scene, but that's the price we pay to try to engender trust in the police force. Police officers in England are trained to think first, shoot last. Compair/contrast that with the US, for example.
 

Slagathor

Bedpan racing champion
Jul 25, 2001
22,708
Police officers in the Netherlands are also trained to think first, shoot last. In fact, their policy is that if they shoot at all; their first shot MUST be a warning shot and their second or other consequetive shot must NEVER kill.

But when you have police officers running around with barely more than a bat to defend themselves with; things stand a bigger chance to escalate imo.

Dutch society is one of the most peaceful I have ever encountered and guns are as less a part of daily life as you'll find possible in this world; police officers with guns doesn't stop that. They do, however, make it safer as they're a bigger threat to real criminals; who will commit their unlawful acts regardless of society's moral, but who may find themselves thinking twice about doing so when they're facing a capable police officer on the street with means heavy enough to respond to serious threats.
 

mikhail

Senior Member
Jan 24, 2003
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That's probably a good compromise. I wonder how much of crime is society-specific though. Would the Dutch system work as well here, or would we have police officers pumping 100+ shots into a petty thief.
 

Slagathor

Bedpan racing champion
Jul 25, 2001
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Oh it probably wouldn't work when implemented the exact same way; cultural differences etc

Would be an interesting thing to research though... Too bad I already had my final paper subject approved. Can't go back now :D
 

mikhail

Senior Member
Jan 24, 2003
9,576
++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
Yeah sure, still have my research proposal online here if you're interested
Cheers. It looks like it could be a good read, providing you don't totally screw it up. ;)

How long would it be? (Says me, wondering if it would be a good idea to ask for a copy later... )
 

Slagathor

Bedpan racing champion
Jul 25, 2001
22,708
++ [ originally posted by mikhail ] ++
Cheers. It looks like it could be a good read, providing you don't totally screw it up. ;)
Reasonably good odds I'd say :D

How long would it be? (Says me, wondering if it would be a good idea to ask for a copy later... )
Hm depends, the core of the thing would be over 50 pages. With indexes, the market research etc it could nearing 100
 

mikhail

Senior Member
Jan 24, 2003
9,576
++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
Reasonably good odds I'd say :D
Good thing I'm a betting man.

Hm depends, the core of the thing would be over 50 pages. With indexes, the market research etc it could nearing 100
That's just a nice read. If you'd be so kind, I'd be delighted to read a copy, either when it's done, or as a proofreader.
 

The Pado

Filthy Gobbo
Jul 12, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
Glue? I just got a better idea where Pado can put his seal of approval on any pair of women's shoes produced henceforth. Instead of those "inspected by #15" tags, Pado could do quality control and leave a "Fap certified, Pado approved" tag in every one.

Not so much for the new shoes. I'm more about the pre-owned by the hot chick shoes. I usually have the need to know my victims :D


Great shoe wanking tip free of charge:

If you live or work in the commercial center of any city, you are bound to see women dressed in business attire with athletic shoes. These are horrible women who shun fashion footwear in favor of comfort and are therefore useless as human beings. However, we can make them pay. Naturally, their good shoes are being carried in that bag slung over their shoulders. It's inevitable since they will not be wearing athletic shoes in the office. Just pick out a real hottie, start walking right up behind her and boost a shoe from the bag, duck around the corner and shallack the sausage like nobody's business.
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
++ [ originally posted by mikhail ] ++

Ireland is similarly gun-free country, and I don't quite agree with you Erik. Certainly, there is an added delay in getting armed police on the scene, but that's the price we pay to try to engender trust in the police force. Police officers in England are trained to think first, shoot last. Compair/contrast that with the US, for example .
You think were trained to shoot first, and ask questions later ???:confused:

Maybe in the movies...but not in reality

If that was the case, I would have probably shot many ppl by now (8 years on the job), but I've used my training and judgement to have avoided it



Police officers in the Netherlands are also trained to think first, shoot last. In fact, their policy is that if they shoot at all; their first shot MUST be a warning shot and their second or other consequetive shot must NEVER kill
.

Oh, that makes a ton of sense... warning shots

Dont those "warning shots" have to end up hitting something ??

Hopefully, not the innocent bystander a few blocks away

A shot that wont kill ??? Go ahead and aim for their leg or arm , and see if you dont accidentally hit them in the head, or midsection, and kill them

If we shoot, it is to kill. There is no other way
 

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