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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Sergio ] ++
Allright, at the urging of an unspecified member, I have been asked to take a look at what this board has become.


Let me make this clear, this is my absolute last post ever on this forum, and to be quite honest, with the exception of Andy, Libero, Nick, Robert, Vinni,Erik,Paul,Jeeks,Burke Martin and Fabiana, I truly do not want to have contact with anyone here ever again.

If you are not on this list Do Not text message my phone, do not try to call me on my cell phone or at work, and do not try to e-mail me. It will get you absolutely nowhere.

Now, on to this controversy.

Drop it. Move onto something else.

Seven, I just read your post about how you posted the picture of the starving African Kid.

The one that says "Andy and Co."

Yeah, your timing on that was really fukking brilliant. You just HAPPENED to post that on 9/11, at a time of day when no one else in the US was even awake yet, so that they could post something in rememberance of the terrorist bombings. Don't try and play the victim on that, you knew EXACTLY what you were doing, because you know that we were eventually going to make mention of it. You just HAD to open your ignorant trap and say something on that day, didn't you. Now, little boy, you can carry on jerking off to the pictures of the destroyed Twin Towers now, as I assume that you've been doing that for at least the last 4 years.


Jaecole, once again you don't get it. Did I ask for monetary contributions to the 9/11 fund? No. Did I ask for anyone to praise the United States with exemplary comments on our country or government. Nope. What did I ask for? Simple, I asked for anyone who had any shit to say to keep it to themselves for 24 hours.

That's all. 24 hours. yet here you go with your rhetoric about how I DEMANDED respect. What kind of special education dicitionary are you using where your definition of that word is totally different from the rest of the free world???


That being said. I'm gone. Yes, for Good. My only regret is that with the exception of the truly genuinely good people on this forum, I wasted so much time and effort actually trying to converse with the majority of you retarded imbeciles.
Great post Sergio.

Keep in touch buddy.
 
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IncuboRossonero

IncuboRossonero

Inferiority complex
Nov 16, 2003
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    ++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++


    Idiotic to say the least. We are not Micheal Moores and we are not on the 9/11 report board. We're talking about it now because its a time we are thinking about it and as you've seen, this is exactly a time when your point will be heard.
    From who? THats the point..WE are not Michael Moore. Whats the point of going on campus or in a coffee house and talk about the negatives when there may be a cousin, relative, parent, son whatever of a victim...but more importantly out of respect just say it another day...its not like the whole world is listening to you.


    ++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++
    Now don't get me wrong, I'm not agreeing with what Seven has said. Mostly just wondering at the bigger issue. Like I've brought up before I have a problem with the 'right' of respect (which in American really means censorship/silence) Americans think they have because of a certain event, date. Sergio has no reason to ask on a forum that we respect that day, all he can do is hope we do and if it's a problem for him, not read the page. Sure you can take offence and hate the guy, complain about it, whatever. But surely there is a reasoning in your mind that tells you that's how it is and that's his choice.

    Maybe this is a general American thing, or just a power play on this website. Though personally I see no difference in Sergios right for respect and Sevens right for an opinion.
    You don't see it but then again you have done things that in my opinion are almost far worse than Seven...so you are not exactly someone I expect civilized conversation from. Let's not go there because if I have to mention your FVCKIN comments again I'm likely to get banned...

    plus, its not worth re-hashing it.



    ++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++
    I obviously don't agree with how he behaved. But still..
    But still what?? You just said you agreed with it and it made no difference when or what he said....

    ++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++
    Be American/British, then get used to negative sentiment and get used to it fast. All I know is that we don't take fits, leave forums, abuse and insult anyone who happens to say something we don't agree with or disrespects our dead etc as cruel and vulgar as it is.
    ..
    We put it with that bullshit every other day of the year and probably even that day..doesn't mean we have to swallow it. The U.S. did not get where they are by letting people DISREPECT it.

    ++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++
    I see how easy it is to walk away without a scene, without wanting a reaction and without wanting attention. Log off and go if you don't like, have a problem? Take it too the moderators. I also see how easy it is too walk right back when agendas are met.
    Makes no sense in the scheme of things...but your post has not made sense thus far so..no offense
     

    The Pado

    Filthy Gobbo
    Jul 12, 2002
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    An elderly gentleman finally losing his battle with battle with cancer. Most unfortunate. And exactly the same as 3,000 people going off to work in the morning, expected to reunite with their children and spouses at the end of the work day, but instead are executed because some religious extremeists got frustrated. Yeah, I see the similarities.
     

    Tifoso

    Sempre e solo Juve
    Aug 12, 2005
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    ++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++
    Yet you weren't when you thought there was no terrorist involved?
    Wrong.

    Without terrorism, I would have been "nornally" sorry for your loss. Not making light of his death, but everyone dies.

    With terrorism, you would have to deal with his loss, and the senseless, barbaric way he was taken from you.

    In the first case, you would have one spot in your heart that ached.

    In the second case, you would have two.

    Which is why it is extremely insensitive to mention it. Especially on 9-11
     

    The Pado

    Filthy Gobbo
    Jul 12, 2002
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    I just got a call from Sergio.

    He can't be bothered talking about Belgian miscreants, just Shelby Cobras and Mustang GT's. I think he's doing fine :D


    Now, if only I could get him to stop talking about Shoe-Wanking. Frankly, I find that subject to be disgusting.
     

    Tifoso

    Sempre e solo Juve
    Aug 12, 2005
    5,162
    ++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
    Lou, I kindly ask you to place Seven on your ignore list.
    I understand your frustration (obviously), amico mio---but I can't. I have no one on an ignore list on any forum I belong to (mainly here and Ferrari F1).

    I'm a big believer in constructive engagement....ie, maybe he'll finally understand why we're pissed.
     

    Tifoso

    Sempre e solo Juve
    Aug 12, 2005
    5,162
    ++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++
    Lou... Not meaning to be rude... I know your a good guy... But please ease off with the amico mio stuff... At least in this thread anyway...
    Will do, am.....err, never mind :redface::D


    EDIT: although it could be argued that this thread needs it the most...
     

    Dan

    Back & Quack
    Mar 9, 2004
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    ++ [ originally posted by Tifoso Lou ] ++


    Wrong.

    Without terrorism, I would have been "nornally" sorry for your loss. Not making light of his death, but everyone dies.

    With terrorism, you would have to deal with his loss, and the senseless, barbaric way he was taken from you.

    In the first case, you would have one spot in your heart that ached.

    In the second case, you would have two.

    Which is why it is extremely insensitive to mention it. Especially on 9-11
    Any death is senseless. I see what you mean, but a dead relative is still a dead relative regardless whether he died in a car crash, of cancer, fell down an evelvator or died in 9/11. There is no 'normally sorry' for the loss, as every life has equal worth, in the overall scheme of the world. Extra value is added to a life by the emotional attachements people have with the person, Ie my mother's life to me is worth more then a strangers.

    Seven's grandfather's life is worth more to him then the 9/11 victims anyway- just like my mother or any relative of mine would be if they died, considering I knew them and had emotional attachments and shared things with them and never with any of the 9/11 victims.. just like anyone who would of died in a war. You would cry for the death of your wife or son, but perhaps not for 1,000 dead in Africa. Seven's grandfather's death is equally tragic as any of the individual victims, if not more to himself because he was actually related to him. So whatever he probably feels about his Grandfathers death is most likely to be greater then the pain you feel for 9/11.

    This is not to say that I dont feel empathy for these people, so dont twist my words around and call me an American hater. If you think that, re read my post or tell me where you thought my anti american seminents were and Ill glady explain to you what I meant.
     

    The Pado

    Filthy Gobbo
    Jul 12, 2002
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    Dan, you can eventually come to terms with a relative dying from disease or car accident, as in most cases there was nothing anybody could have done to save his life. But when a crazy bastard decides to just kill your family for no reason it much more difficult to reconcile.


    And then I have go and kill that bastards entire family out of revenge, and I don't enjoy doing that. Never have.
     

    The Pado

    Filthy Gobbo
    Jul 12, 2002
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    Dan, the worst part about Seven losing his grandfather was that when he died, he was buried face down in only one meter of dirt, so the French would have a place to park their bicycles.


    Oh . . . I'm sorry . . . was I being disrespectful and tactless?
     

    Dan

    Back & Quack
    Mar 9, 2004
    9,290
    When someone dies they are dead despite the way they died, however cruell or less cruel it is..

    The people get no redemtpion of course because they essentially got away with it, thats what would probably be the most painful, but in the end it wont bring back their son/daughter/father.. which is of course the most important thing.

    RIP to all the victims.
     

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