Nick Against the World (43 Viewers)

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
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This place has gone to hell .............

My initial reaction is this-

I dont like what has gone on in the last 20 (?) pages, its been utter shit !!

I, along with many ppl here could be completely offended by what Burke has posted, especially since my wife is Asian.

I am sick and tired of Emma Spice always throwing the "boo hoo, Blandest got banned...blah, blah, blah ..." whenever something goes on here

And what was YOUR response, along with some others, Emmz ??? If I remember correctly "oh, she's just kidding around...she means nothing by it.......learn to take a joke...."

So, who is to say that Burke isnt doing the same thing ????


To be honest, I like Paul a lot, I actually consider him a friend, as we have had many conversations (both joking and personal) in the past. I am not too happy that jokes are thrown around regarding the death of Pauls friend, or anyone else for that matter.

I have talked to Burke on a few occasions on Skype, and I know that he jokes around a lot. But after reading the last pages here, I think dont think the ban is unfair.
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
Moderator
Dec 10, 2004
29,281
++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++
This place has gone to hell .............

My initial reaction is this-

I dont like what has gone on in the last 20 (?) pages, its been utter shit !!

I, along with many ppl here could be completely offended by what Burke has posted, especially since my wife is Asian.

I am sick and tired of Emma Spice always throwing the "boo hoo, Blandest got banned...blah, blah, blah ..." whenever something goes on here

And what was YOUR response, along with some others, Emmz ??? If I remember correctly "oh, she's just kidding around...she means nothing by it.......learn to take a joke...."

So, who is to say that Burke isnt doing the same thing ????


To be honest, I like Paul a lot, I actually consider him a friend, as we have had many conversations (both joking and personal) in the past. I am not too happy that jokes are thrown around regarding the death of Pauls friend, or anyone else for that matter.

I have talked to Burke on a few occasions on Skype, and I know that he jokes around a lot. But after reading the last pages here, I think dont think the ban is unfair.

phew!...what a relief, i thought I was the only one.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,125
++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++


Please look up words if you are going to use them Jack....(slander...pffff)

Secondly, what I said did not have to do with the Burke incident. I was merely indicating how sometimes you provoke in subtle ways and know when someone will react...which is what you want so you can join in on bringing the person down.
In more than one occasion I have been discussing things with others where you felt the need to comment on me.
I have made it clear....to me anyways....when you do it to me again it will be real clear despite the sh*t storm that will come your way (not a threat).
cheers (don't respond...its over)
I have to concur with Nick on this one.

Jaecole, you do have this "quality" of getting a reaction out of people from some of your comments. Perhaps you don't know what your doing, however I've certainly experianced it.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,125
Some posters criticize the Americans here for forming a little clan, backing each other up, however the same thing applies to the English posters on this forum.

Not that there is anything wrong with that..
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,125
++ [ originally posted by fabiana ] ++
Damn. I cant believe Burkes gone. I wanted to have his children

Well hell be back on any of the multiple accounts Andy has :cheesy:
I only have one other account. Martin can ban that too if he likes.
 

Emma

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2004
3,753
This is going to be long.

So Burke is banned. Good it's about time. He deserved it.

Vinman, I have not meant to boo hoo over Claires banning. I was using it in that instance to make a point. It wasnt something against you. I have no problems with you at all. Just wanted to make that point.


I didnt aspire to have him banned (azzurri7), I didnt even really want him off the forum. But he needs to keep in check. When Claire was banned and he knew it was coming, he was ok, he kerbed the shit and I had no problem with him but recently he has went back to old, even gotten worse than ever. So yes ban him. If he returns and is respectable then I wouldnt care at all. Id like that infact.
Also jaecole and myself didnt fucking plan something to get burke banned. That is ridiculous.

Whys Jaecole getting a hard time for this? He didnt post a single thing out of place. I dont think he ever has on this forum. Nick as for your rantings about myself and Jaecole. Do you realise how much crap you are talking?
True Jae may have defended me alittle on this forum at times. But he does that to everyone. He has defended Gino Genesio, he has defended MadLawyer, Nicole and even Lilianna. You know the 'retards' the human garbage that you dont want anything to do with. Some people are just nicer than you.

As for your pop star on my wall shit. Shut the hell up. Whats with you and assuming I fall in love with every guy you ever hear about? Jae, like hundreds of english men is a nice guy. I like talking and becoming friends with nice guys. Dont EVER please try to pan things into my real life because you know nothing about it and by your postings are a LONG way off.

Some posters criticize the Americans here for forming a little clan, backing each other up, however the same thing applies to the English posters on this forum.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Allow me to take this and rip it apart for you. The americans here join in putting other people down, latest instance is with madlawyer when he dared challenge Nick. Vinman and Sergio posted for their buddy.

You seen Paul, Tom, Jae do that for each other? No. Dont try to take this one example where we were all on the same side and make something off it. Burke was posting against England, flamming England in a way that was beyond anything I've ever seen here. You expect Jae and Paul NOT to fvcking take exception to that. Imagine Jaecole posted like that against America. Can you image how fast you guys would be there ripping into him? So please. Dont even think of making a point out of that Andrew.

Funny how the English men are respectable here and the Americans(Burke, Nick and to a degree Andy/Burke) like to throw shit at people. Jae, just like Shadowfax, Tom and John10 isnt here for your arguments and I dont think is here for the attention you are. Nick you accuse him of calling your name out when the fact is you bring him up. He hadnt even posted towards you before, you jumped on him first in this thread (I remember because I was looking for it, waiting for it to happen, you are predictable) and I just knew you would take it like you have with Tom even Mac. Saying the shit about him hanging around this thread to argue with you? Not cool Nick, cocky dosent work for you. This forum has become so tiresome.

Good call Martin and since im so in the wrong here, I dont mind being banned. Not a cry for sympathy or a cry for any reaction in anyway (remember america, some people dont have this planned out). But if you want to remove my access here, just know I will have no problem whatsoever with it. Im only here out of habit anyway.

I was merely indicating how sometimes you provoke in subtle ways and know when someone will react...which is what you want so you can join in on bringing the person down.
In more than one occasion I have been discussing things with others where you felt the need to comment on me.
I have made it clear....to me anyways....when you do it to me again it will be real clear despite the sh*t storm that will come your way (not a threat).
cheers (don't respond...its over)
Perhaps. He's an intelligent guy and its interesting how noone can figure him out and how he seems to come out on top of every 'argument' without ever resorting to insults. I can understand how this frustrates you Nick but you really do go in to deep sometimes.
Believe it or not some people just log in to this forum and post. Thats it.
Im sick to death of reading about people trying to hard and people having everything ****ing planned out and this being some major conspiracy against someone.

Now for the important part. Andy and others who assume im happy that Burke is banned. Yes I am, because take a look at the shit he has been giving me on this forum. I log in here every day and read absolute fucking shit flamming of myself, my friends and anyone who posts towards me or I post towards. I dont want that shit every time I come on a forum. I dont want some fucking stupid american college boy degrading me with comments like 'get off my nuts', 'swallow my cum', 'your fat' and countless others. I dont remember ever saying such terms to anyone here and I wouldnt encourage anyone to post like that. Yes Claire did it, but she didnt make it personal. She generally flamed you all as fvcktards and hit on vinny for being a cop but as Ive said countless times, that was as much vinnys fault as hers. And I never said it was cool that she did that anyway. This is a public forum, you just cant go around saying the things Burke does. You dont know what kind of effect you could be having saying that shit.

Dont waste your time trying to make me feel guilty here, Ive taken a hard time from Burke forever. I should be delighted he is gone, Im just happy I dont have to read his crap anymore.

Note to everyone. Dont PM me stupid messages regarding this or Burke or PM at all. The ones you sent have been deleted and anymore you send will be deleted and not opened.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,987
++ [ originally posted by Emma ] ++
This is going to be long.

So Burke is banned. Good it's about time. He deserved it.

Vinman, I have not meant to boo hoo over Claires banning. I was using it in that instance.............................

.................. PM me stupid messages regarding this or Burke or PM at all. The ones you sent have been deleted and anymore you send will be deleted and not opened.
Glad u realize it.

Some people here sometimes go too high or too low.
The extremes.
Burke was a ballsucker anyways.
 

Respaul

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
4,734
++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++


So, who is to say that Burke isnt doing the same thing ????
Because normally balanced decent people dont write the stuff hes written.

Im not jus talking about the abusive racist non-feeling posts in this thread... Not even the posting of a porn picture involving a blonde girl giving fellatio with the words... get off my nuts aimed at emma....

Im talking about the sickening thread which i beleive martin removed entitled 'i hate jews'... where he made some absolute disgraceful remarks towards zlatan, gray, majed and most people of a non-white american heritage.

Not too mention the picture of a string of bosnian body bags with a statement to z about his uncle being 3rd back on the right or some such disgusting shit.

Yes you can say that thread was a result of this and that he was jus going for impact....but normal decent people dont even think those things.


and yeah i think alot of people knew full well that with a little bit of pushing burke would cross the line... So what, is it our fault hes so dumb and predictable....
Did people gang up to get him banned... No, there was no need, he did it to himself with unbelievable ease.

Theres also a massive difference between the standing up for people that some do and the ganging up that has gone on so many times here... its not the same thing



Anyway... I'll talk to you on msn later vin
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,049
++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++


Not too mention the picture of a string of bosnian body bags with a statement to z about his uncle being 3rd back on the right or some such disgusting shit.

Fucking hell, I didnt even see that. Perhaps it's better, it would have just wound me up. But I completely agree with Paul, it's nobody else's fault, Burke got banned because he deserved to be.
 

Respaul

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
4,734
++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



Fucking hell, I didnt even see that.
Then I apologise for mentioning it (i assumed you saw it as you were online at the time)...

That thread needed mentioning as people seem to be judging this on this thread only... not having the whole story
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,125
++ [ originally posted by Emma ] ++

Funny how the English men are respectable here and the Americans(Burke, Nick and to a degree Andy/Burke) like to throw shit at people.
Yes, that's right, I'm such an inconsiderate and obnoxious poster on this forum. Please Emma, take your glasses off for a while and stop getting Burke and I confused. Sure, I might not be the nicest guy on the forum and not many may agree with me all the time, however I don't "throw shit at people" without a reason. I don't think I have insulted many people here and if I did unknowingly I apologize. You on the other hand make false accusations against me starting all sorts of user accounts, even one based on my quote below, even though I was open to you with the accounts I made, one of which by request by your friend (and I wish mine as well) Claire. You have made statements before accusing me of backing up my opinions with other user accounts.....why would I do that Emma? It's a waste of time. Moreover everybody thinks Burke and I must be the same sort of person just because "I know him" and he's my friend. People might not respect me for that, however why should I care? The only thing I do care about is getting called out wrongly and being accused of something I don't ever do. And believe me that happens a lot. Whether you and others are just joking about it, I don't know. But what really ticks me off is being made to look like a lier when I'm not.

And about this American alliance thing....it's not as close knit as you think Emma. I have been involved in arguments with every single American poster here, with different issues, even digging into Nick himself earlier in my time here. Vinman I had to disagree with him on a lot of things however I can say I have loads of respect for him considering his profession. You or Claire might not, but I do, and of course that means I'll be there to back him up in something I as well believe in. Sergio I have no clue about, seems like he doesn't like me anymore but I don't know. Pado is a good man and yes we have clashed together several times before. However it's understandable people like jaecole will back you up because he knows you in real life, and there is nothing wrong with that. Everybody has their favorites Emma.

We jumped on Madlawyer? Deservedly I have to say. All he was doing to was posting nonsense about Nick in an insulting manner. And I know you would stick up for your friends...the whole gang... jaecole and Claire...if people insulted them. It's been going on for a while now and it's quite understandable frankly. Just please do not be so quick to judge when the same deal is happening on the opposite side.

But yes the treatment you have recieved was highly unfair, and luckily you will not have deal with it anymore. Hopefully we can all just get along now...
 

Chxta

Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
Nov 1, 2004
12,088
This whole affair's just messy.

Granted, Burke went way overboard yes, and some of the things that he wrote are not what decent people should write, agree strongly with Paul there.

Having said that, I have to also state that I don't think that Burke's a racist! I have had the pleasure of meeting a real racist before (in my own country would you believe!) and myself and 2 friends had him beat (that was in late 1998 and I had just left the Army). I have spoken with Burke on a number of occassions, and he doesn't come across as someone who'll hate people simply because of their skin colour. I think he's just a prankish kid who didn't know where to draw the line. No harm in that, most kids don't.

Having said all that, I hope this whole issue dies here and now.


But then Andy, you are Burke's friend, and I'll ive you some advice to give him (pity he doesn't seem to be on Skype a lot nowadays): "Vox audita parit, litera scripta manet". Someday, some idiot is going to use what he has written down to judge him. Please try and get an apology from him and paste here in order to undo the potential damage.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,125
++ [ originally posted by chxta ] ++

But then Andy, you are Burke's friend, and I'll ive you some advice to give him (pity he doesn't seem to be on Skype a lot nowadays): "Vox audita parit, litera scripta manet". Someday, some idiot is going to use what he has written down to judge him. Please try and get an apology from him and paste here in order to undo the potential damage.
I'll see what I can do chxta.
 

Chxta

Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
Nov 1, 2004
12,088
We've been patient, and now our prayers have been answered as Lecce's Axel Konan has spoon-fed us a the pun we've been waiting for.

It was with child-like glee that we watched the striker, the mere mention of whom has journalists tittering, clatter...here it comes....barbarically into Milan's Brazilian magician Kakà in the second-half of Sunday's 2-2 draw and earn himself a straight red.

"A brutal foul, there's nothing else to say," admitted Lecce coach Zdenek Zeman, before going on to do just the opposite. "It's not the sort of thing we want to see and I most certainly condemn it. Kaka could really have been badly injured."

Earlier, Konan had helped take an unfeasibly large sword to Milan's hopes of retaining the scudetto by cancelling out the rossoneri's early lead, but then found himself with first choice of the club towels after a horrific knee-high challenge on Kakà.

"Konan's foul was horrific and cannot be justified," ranted Carlo Ancelotti, whose dogged avoidance of the 'b' word suggested a lack of fondness for Arnold Schwarzenegger's swords-and-sorcery classic.

"It was most ugly and inexplicable and incomprehensible. An ugly episode," Ancelotti continued, confirming our hunch.
 

gray

Senior Member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2003
30,260
++ [ originally posted by chxta ] ++
We've been patient, and now our prayers have been answered as Lecce's Axel Konan has spoon-fed us a the pun we've been waiting for.
:rofl: too true
++ [ originally posted by chxta ] ++
Earlier, Konan had helped take an unfeasibly large sword to Milan's hopes of retaining the scudetto
++ [ originally posted by chxta ] ++
but then found himself with first choice of the club towels
++ [ originally posted by chxta ] ++
whose dogged avoidance of the 'b' word suggested a lack of fondness for Arnold Schwarzenegger's swords-and-sorcery classic.
:LOL: I assume this is from the Guardian? If so, that's exactly why I love their style of writing :thumb:

EDIT: Damn, I didn't realise you posted the article in this thread Cheta. Damn, I was going to write a reply to the past few pages but this just totally ruined the mood, so bugger it. It probably would have been a rant anyway, and you've all probably had enough of that already.


Paul: I must say I'd be somewhat interested to see the thread you mentioned earlier
 

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