Nick Against the World (25 Viewers)

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
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Dec 10, 2004
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Vinni, I didn't mean you, as I pointed out the likes of Nick and those that think like him. However, looking at your post I can't help but to notice that you are also carrying prejudgmental ideas.

You start by saying

"where have I ever said that I didnt want Muslims living in my country ?"
It's not your country, just because Italians have been here longer doesn't make it your country, by that standard Chinese-Americans are more American than you.

My problem lies with those who are here with alterior motives...who believe that America is satan and must be destroyed (and there are a good number here who are like that...whether you agree or not)
Sure, there are bad-sheep amongst all people. Every type of people that come here at one point or another have felt the discrimination and racism towards them, and nearly all of them have developed a 'hate' against the oppressors. The Chinese, the Irish, the Italians, the Blacks...all of them have at one point or another felt discriminated and have hated those that discriminated against them. The only reason why you identify yourself as an "Italian" is because life wasn't always peachy and you came to bond and identify yourself with your 'people.

My point is that those that say that America is satan are saying it for a reason. What ever that reason may be. You might then say "Then why are you here, go back to your country" Well that could have been said for all immigrants that came here and felt the same.

One of the guys on my soccer team is a Yemeni, and also a first cousin of one of the "Lackawanna six". I was skeptical about letting him play on my team, but once I talked with him, I realized that I cannot blame him for his cousin's disgrace. Now, if he shows up at one of our games sporting a bulky vest that he says is for soccer "training", then I'll know that I was wrong !! :p
Like Nick would say, call homeland security :p
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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I think saying Italian and Irish in the same sentence in this discussion is about the most retarded thing I have ever heard. I've never in my life seen an Italian racial abused. I think if you are Irish even today you'll laugh at getting turned away from bars or clubs because you'll be used to it.
Blah blah blah... go back to the dungeon.


In American it is popular to beat up on whoever is new in the neighborhood. Kind of like picking on the new kid in school. My point by mentioning the Irish was that it isn't such a big deal. Its not like my ancestors were forced to pick cotton or not allowed to vote. We were just asked to pick ourselves out of the gutter after a Saturday night and not marry rich people.
Blah blah blah... go back to the Potato famine.

I will say this much...the Irish vs. Italian animosity even transcends into my, and many other large police departments in New York state

When I was in the academy some 10 years ago, during breaks between classes, the Irish congregated on one side of the hallway, while the Italians were on the other side of the hallway. Anyone else (black, Puerto Rican) were welcome to hang with us as well. Every vote we had during the academy (class president, platoon leader, even where we were going to have our graduation party) went according to ethnic lines. It was fucking ridiculous, and 10 years later, things haven't changed
Blah blah blah... go ingest some greasy pizza.

I find it surprising that despite all that you (not everyone) as Italian-Americans went through, you have animosity towards Arab-Americans or Muslims living in America in general. One would think that all that struggle would have made you more open-minded, yet a person like Incubodoodoo sits here and addresses his every post towards me by stating "should I call homeland security?"
Blah blah blah... go toss your head over a falafel stand.

Ah, good to see you're trying to fit in despite your latent homosexual feelings towards Ale Del Piero.
Blah blah blah... you're an American.
 

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