Nick Against the World (33 Viewers)

[Seven]

Here we are then.

Seven: Belgium is more developed than the US

Señor Canardo: as for belgium when you start making something as rudimentary as "cars" we will talk

Martin: what does making cars have to do with being developed (in our western world)?

You seem to be a little confused .

 

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[Martin]

Indeed

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Here we are then.

Seven: Belgium is more developed than the US

Señor Canardo: as for belgium when you start making something as rudimentary as "cars" we will talk

Martin: what does making cars have to do with being developed (in our western world)?

"Developed" would have to holistically encompass standard of living, economic might and a certain level of industrialism. Following these i would with all confidence claim that Chicago by itself is more developed than all of Belgium.

 

[Seven]

"Developed" would have to holistically encompass standard of living, economic might and a certain level of industrialism. Following these i would with all confidence claim that Chicago by itself is more developed than all of Belgium.

Nope. Besides, industrialism? Oh please.

 

[Martin]

"Developed" would have to holistically encompass standard of living, economic might and a certain level of industrialism. Following these i would with all confidence claim that Chicago by itself is more developed than all of Belgium.

So why didn't you say that instead of "Belgium doesn't even make cars"? Seven is right, I am confused. Unnecessarily so

 

[GordoDeCentral]

So why didn't you say that instead of "Belgium doesn't even make cars"? Seven is right, I am confused. Unnecessarily so

oh come on it is obvious that my point wasnt about making cars or not but rather to show how ridiculous and out of context that comparaison was

 

[Martin]

"Developed" would have to holistically encompass standard of living, economic might and a certain level of industrialism. Following these i would with all confidence claim that Chicago by itself is more developed than all of Belgium.

Btw this again doesn't make a lot of sense. Obviously a concentrated highly developed area will be "higher developed" than a whole country, the density of "development" is higher.

 

[Seven]

oh come on it is obvious that my point wasnt about making cars or not but rather to show how ridiculous and out of context that comparaison was

Seems to me you're stuck 50 years back though.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Nope. Besides, industrialism? Oh please.

what please? higher standard of living here, better amenities besides our aging "el" system; economically more sound, and a burgeoning cultural scene might even be more multi-cultural. Been to both and i actually like bruxelles, and fairly speaking you cant even compare to one city here.

 

[The Pado]

"Developed" would have to holistically encompass standard of living, economic might and a certain level of industrialism. Following these i would with all confidence claim that Chicago by itself is more developed than all of Belgium.

"Developed" simply means that the land is used for something other than bunnies and mice to run and poop on. Seriously, the most developed state in the USA is actually Iowa, yes Iowa. Every freakin' acre is used to grow corn, so it is nearly 100% developed. Don't go by "developed".

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Btw this again doesn't make a lot of sense. Obviously a concentrated highly developed area will be "higher developed" than a whole country, the density of "development" is higher.

which reconfirms how ridiculous it was in the first place to compare the US to a country that doesnt even match in matters of GDP to one of its cities

 

[Seven]

Economically more sound? That's very very questionable. As for cities, well, that's not the point is it? It's the nation as a whole we're looking at. Relatively speaking there are more people below poverty in America than there are in Belgium. That's a more important factor than the subjective ones you named there.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

"Developed" simply means that the land is used for something other than bunnies and mice to run and poop on. Seriously, the most developed state in the USA is actually Iowa, yes Iowa. Every freakin' acre is used to grow corn, so it is nearly 100% developed. Don't go by "developed".

yep those iowans are all about fertility and plowing

 

[The Pado]

report I heard had at least 32 dead at Viginia Tech.

 

[Seven]

Btw this again doesn't make a lot of sense. Obviously a concentrated highly developed area will be "higher developed" than a whole country, the density of "development" is higher.

Well, that's my bad probably, "developed" isn't the best of translations for the word I have in mind.

 

[The Pado]

yep those iowans are all about fertility and plowing

Ahhhh, I've got to get back to Liverpool soon.

 

[Martin]

Well, that's my bad probably, "developed" isn't the best of translations for the word I have in mind.

You meant "cultured"? "civilized"?

 

[Seven]

You meant "cultured"? "civilized"?

Well, that's not ideal either, but it does come closer. Perhaps it's better to just oppose it to the 3d world. Belgium seems to be a welfare state and the USA well.. they're not quite there yet.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Economically more sound? That's very very questionable. As for cities, well, that's not the point is it? It's the nation as a whole we're looking at. Relatively speaking there are more people below poverty in America than there are in Belgium. That's a more important factor than the subjective ones you named there.

i like it better when we are singling subjects out; if it's poverty we re talking about here one needs to look at the two reigning philosophies in both countries whereas one is more on socialistic agenda the other is all about laissez-faire opportunity and encouraging business. The best example in my opinion is to compare the rates of success of new comers in each country to get a better feel of wealth; immigrants in europe struggle to get anywhere socio/economically while here they re usually part the higher echelon in wealth and education

 

[Seven]

i like it better when we are singling subjects out; if it's poverty we re talking about here one needs to look at the two reigning philosophies in both countries whereas one is more on socialistic agenda the other is all about laissez-faire opportunity and encouraging business. The best example in my opinion is to compare the rates of success of new comers in each country to get a better feel of wealth; immigrants in europe struggle to get anywhere socio/economically while here they re usually part the higher echelon in wealth and education

Not quite sure, but I think I'll have to admit you've got a point there. However, I think you're simplifying a bit here. To me it seems it's easier to get a fair pay in Belgium, but harder to become rich. Statistics confirm that there are relatively more rich and poor people in the US. You could say it's only the socialistic agenda, but I have my doubts about that.