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swag

L'autista
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Vinman said:
all his finger-pointing in that interview...

I kept having flashbacks of "I didn't have sexual relations with that woman....."

he was so full of dogshit....I couldnt believe what I was hearing.....

If he really wanted Bin Laden, he was given to him on a silver platter by the Sudanese Government AFTER the embassy bombings back in 1998, but instead, good 'ol Willie let him and his 12 wives and family get on a cargo plane to Afghanistan....its complete fact

nice to see so many ppl fooled by Billy's rhetoric in the interview...where was this anger when you were in office, Mr. President ???
Setting aside my opinion on what was said for a moment...

What I don't get most of all is why people are arguing this now -- 8 years after the fact and 5 years after 9/11. What took all this time? Why now?

It doesn't make sense, honestly. The only rationale I could come up with is that it's the old "Look! There goes Elvis!" defense. When things are going poorly and you no longer have a defense, try to dig up a story from the previous decade in the hopes that it will be a distraction.

This just in -- JFK Jr.'s plane crashed under mysterious circumstances. Joe DiMaggio also died that year. Is there a connection?? :confused2
 

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Respaul

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Jul 14, 2002
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Vinman said:
all his finger-pointing in that interview...

I kept having flashbacks of "I didn't have sexual relations with that woman....."
For fucks sake... Why cant people get over that shit... It is irrelevant... A non story.. It was a non story then and it still is today... He screwed around with someone he should nat have... so fucking what

he was so full of dogshit....I couldnt believe what I was hearing.....
If you say so, Documented evidence proves 95% of what Bill said in that interview, the rest is hearsay and conjecture.

If he really wanted Bin Laden, he was given to him on a silver platter by the Sudanese Government AFTER the embassy bombings back in 1998, but instead, good 'ol Willie let him and his 12 wives and family get on a cargo plane to Afghanistan....its complete fact
Interesting... So your telling me that after the embassy bombings of 1998 that the sudanese government offered the US the extradition of Bin Laden ?

Tell me how that is possible, being that Bin laden was asked to leave the sudan in May 1996... In may 1996 Bin laden returned to afghanistan... Two years prior to the embassy bombings he left the sudan... Get your facts straight...

The supposed extradition offer was in 1996 not 1998 (BEFORE the embassy bombings)... An offer which cannot be 100% confirmed...An offer surrounded by contradiction from all sides...

An offer that even if it did happen was useless... As for america to enforce this extradition at that time (a time when he was not linked or confirmed to have been involved in any act against the US) would have broken nigh on every international law and convention... The only place he could have legally been extradited to was Saudi Arabia.. Who refused... If he had been extradited to Saudi Arabia that would have opened the door for the US, But they didnt... I dont see you blaming this on the Saudi Government

Not to mention that in 1996 Bin Laden was not seen by anyone as the key threat... In 1996 Ayman al-Zawahiri was seen as the key threat to the US... Indeed it wasnt until the formal amalgamation of Egyptian Islamic Jihad and al-qaeda in 1998 that Bin Laden was recognised as the primary enemy.


I also dont see you attacking or laying any blame at the hands of Bush senior for his innaction or innability to deal with Khalid Shaikh Mohammed... Principal architect of the 93 bombing, Oplan Bojinka and eventually 9/11 itself... and of course being behind the attempt to destroy AA Flight 63... The FBI had knowledge of the forthcoming attack on the world trade center in 1992, yet what did Bush senior do? Oh yes ... NOTHING


That is a far worse crime and had a far greater impact on history than anything clinton did or did not do...


Whose government was it that allowed a known terrorist and nephew of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, Ramzi Ahmed Yousef To cross your border and carry out the 1993 WTC attack ? Whose government was it that allowed Yousef to leave the US ?... Oh yes Bush Senior

Whose government captured Yousef... No, not Bush Snr... It was of course the worthless Mr Clinton

You blame Clinton but how far should we go back... Why didnt Reagan deal with Ayman al-Zawahiri? Why didnt Bush Snr deal with Ayman al-Zawahiri?
They both had the opportunity...

Oh yes, thats right, he was off helping Americas cause against the Soviets at that time....

We can also look as to why Carter or Reagan did nothing about Abdullah Yusuf Azzam... A man who had it not been for we may never have seen the rise of Osama Bin Laden or Ayman al-Zawahiri or indeed Al Qaeda being that it was indeed Azzam who laid the seeds for al qaeda... It was essentially his idea




nice to see so many ppl fooled by Billy's rhetoric in the interview...where was this anger when you were in office, Mr. President ???
Why are people 'fooled'... as they dont agree with you?
Bill doesnt fool me at all... He's to coin a phrase "exactly what it says on the tin" allways has been.

I think the same of the man now as i did 20 years ago



the 9-11 reports said that Clinton was never direct with the CIA in what he wanted done about Bin Laden (I've read them)....it surely never said that Clinton was trying to assassinate Bin Laden, like he stated last night

The truth, whether you like it or not, is that Clinton dropped the ball with Bin Laden (as he even said last night), and its true...he did get the closest to getting him...but failed the US by telling the Sudanese to let him go
Interesting how you use the 9/11 report to refute what clinton says on this issue but then ignore the 9/11 reports statements regarding your key argument against clinton (the supposed offer of extradition of bin laden)... An allegation the 9/11 report clearly states is complete and utter fallacy
 

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Vinman said:
all his finger-pointing in that interview...

I kept having flashbacks of "I didn't have sexual relations with that woman....."

he was so full of dogshit....I couldnt believe what I was hearing.....

If he really wanted Bin Laden, he was given to him on a silver platter by the Sudanese Government AFTER the embassy bombings back in 1998, but instead, good 'ol Willie let him and his 12 wives and family get on a cargo plane to Afghanistan....its complete fact

nice to see so many ppl fooled by Billy's rhetoric in the interview...where was this anger when you were in office, Mr. President ???
If you would just drop your bias and do a few fact finding searches you may find out you need switch parties. Paul has rightly corrected your assumptions so I need not beat it into you. I just want to share some insight with you that my be of your benefit for you to read. I hear you go on and on about how the left is soft and Clinton dropped the ball, but you are mistaken the left is not soft and Clinton did not fail in the manner you speak of. Yes he did not capture Bin Laden and that is his failure, of which he has taken full accountability. Could you say the same thing for Bush and his mishaps? I think not. Maybe Clinton lied to the country but it was only once and it was a blow job. The Bush administration has been caught fibbing multiple times and over major issues, not a mere sucky sucky. And as for your notion of the democratic party being a bunch of sissy boys with no military experience or knowledge, I think you are most misinformed. The Democratic Party has way more members with actual military and combat experience than your beloved right wingers with the exceptions of John McCaine and Arnold Swartzenegger(he was in Comando). I'm not going to run through the normal blah about the shape of our military and how recruiting is down and how the rich kids in the whitehouse really didn't know what they were doing when they started playing Risk with real people. The biggest mistake of this administration that even you would have to agree with is George's Torture Bill. Even McCaine who has said in the past to stand behind Bush, is like wtf on this one. With the passing of the Torture Bill go the human rights of you, me, and anyone should we be captured by an enemy. By saying that the Geneva convection doesn't apply to American prisoners, it now doesn't apply to Americans should they be captured civilian or otherwise. There is a reason the smart Republicans are trying to distance themselves from Bush and I believe you should join their cause.
 

The Pado

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Jul 12, 2002
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@ Swag - I now fully understand the gigantic ass you were confronted with at the local Burrito stand. Yesterday I came fact to ass with a trunk that was literally bigger than my entire body. I go 6'0" and 185 lbs.*, so we are talking titanic junque. And the funny thing is that from the front, she just looked like a regular fat chick.

* Conversion for Europeans - The ass was bigger than a Smart Car.
 

The Pado

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The Republicans have no platform. They used to preach "Small Government", but the goevernment under Bush II is the largest in history. They used to chide the "Tax & Spend" Democrats, but nobody has ever spent as much as Bush II, wiping out the amazing surplus created under Clinton and leading to record debt that can never be paid off in our lifetimes. The Republican's answer for all crises is suspend liberties once guaranteed by our constitution. They are masters at creating smoke screens by blaming the "Liberal Media" for all societal ills, but the American media is as conservative as they come, a bit of an arm of the Republican propaganda machine. Their opponents are simply labeled as "Liberals" and that alone is supposed to defeat a candidate in an election. Just name-calling exists, no issues, no solutions, no agenda except Jesus, Prayer in school, death to foreigners and Muslims, and of course gay marriage and flag burning.

Republicans? No thank you, I'd rather hang by my neck until I am dead in Guantanimo prison.
 

swag

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Jeeks said:
What does the phrase "exactly what it says on the tin" mean?
Maxwell House, baby.


The Pado said:
@ Swag - I now fully understand the gigantic ass you were confronted with at the local Burrito stand. Yesterday I came fact to ass with a trunk that was literally bigger than my entire body. I go 6'0" and 185 lbs.*, so we are talking titanic junque. And the funny thing is that from the front, she just looked like a regular fat chick.
An ass like that could have been drafted by the Carolina Panthers to play left tackle this year.

But same story in my case... she even looked just a dozen pounds or so overweight from the front. It's only when she turned sideways did I notice she had Santa's sled, sack, eight reindeer, and his VHS porn collection stuffed back there.

* Conversion for Europeans - The ass was bigger than a Smart Car.
:lol: Though "Smart Car" needs a conversion for Americans. ;)
 

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The Pado said:
The Republicans have no platform. They used to preach "Small Government", but the goevernment under Bush II is the largest in history. They used to chide the "Tax & Spend" Democrats, but nobody has ever spent as much as Bush II, wiping out the amazing surplus created under Clinton and leading to record debt that can never be paid off in our lifetimes. The Republican's answer for all crises is suspend liberties once guaranteed by our constitution. They are masters at creating smoke screens by blaming the "Liberal Media" for all societal ills, but the American media is as conservative as they come, a bit of an arm of the Republican propaganda machine. Their opponents are simply labeled as "Liberals" and that alone is supposed to defeat a candidate in an election. Just name-calling exists, no issues, no solutions, no agenda except Jesus, Prayer in school, death to foreigners and Muslims, and of course gay marriage and flag burning.

Republicans? No thank you, I'd rather hang by my neck until I am dead in Guantanimo prison.
What are you talking about? They're running on homosexuals and vicadin.:pint:
 

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