meanwhile, a 70 year old catholic sister from Italy was killed in Mogadisciu, after the local Imam called for revenge...
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That is the worst outcome that may be caused by such rediculous event...
Who cares about what he is talking about?? He can say wrong things as much as he wants, and he can find a huge number of guys applauding for him whenever he brings more wrong claims...
But the relationship between the normal people, Muslims and Christians, should not be affected...
My personal prediction: The Pope has a planned visit to Turkey on November...He'll be shot by CIA agents , and Muslims will be accused immediately to make the war against claimed terrorism looks more justified...
Who cares about what he is talking about?? He can say wrong things as much as he wants, and he can find a huge number of guys applauding for him whenever he brings more wrong claims...
But the relationship between the normal people, Muslims and Christians, should not be affected...
My personal prediction: The Pope has a planned visit to Turkey on November...He'll be shot by CIA agents , and Muslims will be accused immediately to make the war against claimed terrorism looks more justified...
swag said:
That's a delicate line to walk through. I have a number of Muslim friends (Pakistani even 
) who are like, "They call themselves Muslims? Those people are not Muslims. I am sorry."
) who are like, "They call themselves Muslims? Those people are not Muslims. I am sorry."
There's a weird balance between disassociating yourself with extremist freaks who use religion as an excuse to kill innocents ... and also recognizing there's something inherently odd in how these freaks picked your own religious followings, among everything out there, as the foundation for justifying their own massacres of innocents.[/QUOTE]
It's pretty simple actually. The Muslim world is at this time experiencing lots of things at the same time. The Muslim clergy is taking advantage of the fact that a lot of people are uneducated and are brainwashing them with all kinds of stuff. And since being a Muslim is a 24/7 thing, anything you're told, is taken to heart. Also, there is so much division amongst muslims that they can't stop pulling each other's leg. Success is seen as bad in some weird way.
Oh, I'm going deeper and farther back in history than the whole terrorism thing. There is a deeper problem, like a "root problem". Read above.
SexualChocolate said:
Score!
I have a question though, why would anyone even remotely react to anything the pope says? I mean... it's the pope. The dude in a dress who is desperately clutching to the pathetic and final remains of what used to be a great religion and an even greater empire but has now shrunk to a medieval court yard in downtown Rome that most people walk by without even noticing. Whatever the pope says is just as relevant as those doormats that have "welcome" on them.
That is: you wipe your feet on them.
That is: you wipe your feet on them.
well its simply becuz he is in a position of power.And he represents another religion, and most ppl wont take it nicely if ppl from the other team say something abt you.
ppl who r calling for revenge r just ignorant.Peaceful protests, i dont mind.But revenge is just stupid.
Those extremists r just tarnishing the image of islam day after day.
ppl who r calling for revenge r just ignorant.Peaceful protests, i dont mind.But revenge is just stupid.
Those extremists r just tarnishing the image of islam day after day.
I guess you underrate the influence of the Church in many parts of the world. Catholics from South-America and Africa, for example, take the word of the Pope as being the word of God himself.
Which is why the Pope should think twice before making any statement.
That said I don't know why muslims bother about what the guy in Rome who has absolutely no authority on them tells.
I don't care what the Mollah's in Nadjaf or Teheran say about the West...
Which is why the Pope should think twice before making any statement.
That said I don't know why muslims bother about what the guy in Rome who has absolutely no authority on them tells.
I don't care what the Mollah's in Nadjaf or Teheran say about the West...
What power? The vast majority of the European population is either atheist or protestant, in both cases it means they give sh*t about what the pope says. Our divide between church and state means we don't have to care, and we won't. Why would you? Let the old fool be. Think of him as the bully at high school who realises he's losing his power and starts making more noise in a desperate attempt to regain it.
Well there's extremists on both sides, we just need to remember that.
ppl who r calling for revenge r just ignorant.Peaceful protests, i dont mind.But revenge is just stupid.
Those extremists r just tarnishing the image of islam day after day.
Those extremists r just tarnishing the image of islam day after day.
The way I see it, that's irrelevant. Everytime the Christian, Catholic church becomes the focal point of negative attention it always has a backlash on Europe and to a lesser extent the West.
My point. I get the impression that many people in Muslim nations seem to believe that our religious 'leaders' are just as powerful as their religious leaders. When that is quite simply not true at all. The people involved in religion in Europe are pretty much just random puppets that can be ignored.
My point. I get the impression that many people in Muslim nations seem to believe that our religious 'leaders' are just as powerful as their religious leaders. When that is quite simply not true at all. The people involved in religion in Europe are pretty much just random puppets that can be ignored.
The pope is in a position where he really should have known better. He was an ass, to say the least. Claiming he didn't intend things a certain way, IMO, shows a level of cultural ignorance that no pope should ever be guilty of just on the basis of competency for the job.
Oh, I don't think they are ignorant per se. Ignorant would be more of an innocuous category where you just do something stupid and that's the limit of your personal damage. I think they don't realize they are making the pope seem like a rational person for making such horrible, objectionable statements. Which is far more damaging.
I mean -- where is the friggin' logic in these people?: "The pope said we're bloodthirsty, evil, and inhuman. So let's kill him and rip all his limbs off in the name of our religion!"
I mean, it's so sad, it's actually comically funny -- these people are just re-enforcing a stereotype of what they've been accused of, proving the pope's (albeit cited from a third party) point.
ppl who r calling for revenge r just ignorant.Peaceful protests, i dont mind.But revenge is just stupid.
Those extremists r just tarnishing the image of islam day after day.
Those extremists r just tarnishing the image of islam day after day.
I mean -- where is the friggin' logic in these people?: "The pope said we're bloodthirsty, evil, and inhuman. So let's kill him and rip all his limbs off in the name of our religion!"
I mean, it's so sad, it's actually comically funny -- these people are just re-enforcing a stereotype of what they've been accused of, proving the pope's (albeit cited from a third party) point.
