Nick Against the World (69 Viewers)
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@ Libero - you will feel much beter about things if you go to the nearest ristorante Italiana in Brussels and order some Pasta con Fagioli, and then punch the waiter in the face if he mispronounces the regional dish of Campania.
Sorry for using some of the native tongue, but since I am a Communist, I'll use any language I want and . . . ban your fooking religion while I'm at it.
Speaking of languages, Erik, quit trying to fix English. You don't see me messing with that Afrikaans you speak, do you?
Sorry for using some of the native tongue, but since I am a Communist, I'll use any language I want and . . . ban your fooking religion while I'm at it.
Speaking of languages, Erik, quit trying to fix English. You don't see me messing with that Afrikaans you speak, do you?
OP
Perhaps, oddly enough that post did come to mind ... it also opened up a proverbial can of worms ... being an Italian American living in Italy has been quite a learning experience and everyone from the barista at my local bar to the bank teller to the tifoso in the "Curva" have reminded me in not so many words that since my Parents decided to sail across the Atlantic 40 years I will never be 'uno di noi' despite bearing an Italian passport and being much more informed on subjects such as Italian history, football and .. espresso. So yes, the trigger was instant in this case..
Libero,
Let's not play these games .. it can be very insulting. You didn't wonder why a Siciliano would spell Cannoli with one N ... you laughed at it and threw it in my face in a subtle way to make a point.
You don't have to take my word on it....every one from the New York times to Cooks.com have used one N in the spelling of CANNOLI ... like I said, living in the NEW WORLD for over 25 years will eventually do some things such as this.
No you have not experienced them and the occassional drunkard asking "Paesano..avez vous du VINO?" in the streets of Brussels or the Italian politicians at the EU not being given the time of the day doesn't really compare to Supreme Court LEGEND Antonin Scalia being compared to "Tony Soprano" for a hand gesture OR New York Mets Pitcher John Franco being accused of having Mob Ties or Nicola Rocco, Sergio Lenza, Robert Padovano or Vince being labeled WOP, Greaseball or Mobster in grade and high school...I'm sure the Belgians were not NICE but with all due respect the Belgians do not think of Italians as 3 generations of farmers who are the quintessential definition of 'nouveau riche'.
When you were in America you were harmless..you were the foreign exchange student with the cool accent from the land of PIZZA...when we went to school we were the WOPS whose mothers stayed home and baked and Fathers worked on the PIC and SHOVEL and stashed CASH in his bed....When we applied for interships at Banks, Law Firms, etc. our last name triggered instant questions like "Do you watch the Sopranos?" "Does your Father make wine in his basement?" "Does your Mother cultivate her own tomatoes"...but if you asked the African American "Does your Father drink one litre colt .45's" or the Hebrew "Does your father save every penny" it would be uncalled for...
As for the last sentence in your post ... my Grandmother used to say "we might as well laugh about it otherwise we can only cry"...at some point you just start laughing with them
Oh ok I get it this has turned into a Berlusca thing like every thing that goes sour in Italy ... ok I'm game..
"There are three types of Lies: Lies, Damn LIes and Statistics"
Benjamin Disraeli
The US actually had an incredibly high vote in favour of Forza Italia, so much so that they captured a seat in the house for an individual from Sicily. In fact, most Forza Italia candidates where from the South and the only reason Forza Italia did not capture the Senate and other House seat in the America voting was because of parties like Tremaglia and Casini splitting the vote...had Forza italia followed Unione's theory and ran ONE candidate under only UNIONE they would have swept all the seats...problem is that too many expats saw this as a good opportunity to fulfill a lifelong dream: get paid for doing nothing and go to Itay every month.
Here is another interesting fact that has not made its way over the Atlantic...
Mr. X and Mr. Y have both been elected for the Senate and House respectively. Both are from the UNIONE party. Both spent an estimated one million dollars on their campaign when the limit was 60,000$...wait a minute wasn't it that evil Cruise ship crooner turned Billionaire that uses his means to get what he wants?? Isn't that evil billionaire that bends the rules to get himself into office?? Here is more to put in one's pipe and smoke: The Unione members have are also under investigation for voter fraud..it seems some of these individuals showed up at the Consulate and Embassy offices with boxes of sealed envelopes claiming the voters didn't want to send the ballots in by mail but mysteriously fell into the hands of the Unione members: the Carabinieri made its way to places such as British Columbia, Chicago and Ontario for an investigation....still waiting for RAI to report on this ....
Never said you were ... but it seems like I am guilty of the same 'crime' as you are: generalizing...every Northerner sh*ts on the very soul of the expat and Southerner whereas you assumed that every Italo American was responsible for gloryfying the Mafia as you once stated and that an Italian American is the furthest thing from an Italian but if that makes them happy why not...
I am willing to bet I have had to defend Italy and its culture to more people than the average Italian who actually highlights everything that is wrong with Italy and usually blames it on Berlusconi from the EURO to the Price of cell phones to the success of Juve and Milan.
Like I said, its hard for someone to hear they are the furthest thing from Italian because they called it TIRAMESU rather than TIRAMISU or SALAME rather than SALAMI especially when they live in constant reminder that they if they are rich and successful they are mobsters ..
When one opens his mouth day after day in here and posts without filtering it through is brain he should expect that once he makes yet another ridiculous statement i.e. I AM SOO ITALIAN that I LOVE IT it will open up the floodgates for bashing and ridicule...
Case in point: You will never hear me bashing a Gobbo for going to San Siro and partaking in stunts like balloon tossing or name calling ..
If one talks the talk they better be ready to WALK THE WALK
Libero,
Let's not play these games .. it can be very insulting. You didn't wonder why a Siciliano would spell Cannoli with one N ... you laughed at it and threw it in my face in a subtle way to make a point.
You don't have to take my word on it....every one from the New York times to Cooks.com have used one N in the spelling of CANNOLI ... like I said, living in the NEW WORLD for over 25 years will eventually do some things such as this.
No you have not experienced them and the occassional drunkard asking "Paesano..avez vous du VINO?" in the streets of Brussels or the Italian politicians at the EU not being given the time of the day doesn't really compare to Supreme Court LEGEND Antonin Scalia being compared to "Tony Soprano" for a hand gesture OR New York Mets Pitcher John Franco being accused of having Mob Ties or Nicola Rocco, Sergio Lenza, Robert Padovano or Vince being labeled WOP, Greaseball or Mobster in grade and high school...I'm sure the Belgians were not NICE but with all due respect the Belgians do not think of Italians as 3 generations of farmers who are the quintessential definition of 'nouveau riche'.
When you were in America you were harmless..you were the foreign exchange student with the cool accent from the land of PIZZA...when we went to school we were the WOPS whose mothers stayed home and baked and Fathers worked on the PIC and SHOVEL and stashed CASH in his bed....When we applied for interships at Banks, Law Firms, etc. our last name triggered instant questions like "Do you watch the Sopranos?" "Does your Father make wine in his basement?" "Does your Mother cultivate her own tomatoes"...but if you asked the African American "Does your Father drink one litre colt .45's" or the Hebrew "Does your father save every penny" it would be uncalled for...
As for the last sentence in your post ... my Grandmother used to say "we might as well laugh about it otherwise we can only cry"...at some point you just start laughing with them
Oh ok I get it this has turned into a Berlusca thing like every thing that goes sour in Italy ... ok I'm game..
"There are three types of Lies: Lies, Damn LIes and Statistics"
Benjamin Disraeli
The US actually had an incredibly high vote in favour of Forza Italia, so much so that they captured a seat in the house for an individual from Sicily. In fact, most Forza Italia candidates where from the South and the only reason Forza Italia did not capture the Senate and other House seat in the America voting was because of parties like Tremaglia and Casini splitting the vote...had Forza italia followed Unione's theory and ran ONE candidate under only UNIONE they would have swept all the seats...problem is that too many expats saw this as a good opportunity to fulfill a lifelong dream: get paid for doing nothing and go to Itay every month.
Here is another interesting fact that has not made its way over the Atlantic...
Mr. X and Mr. Y have both been elected for the Senate and House respectively. Both are from the UNIONE party. Both spent an estimated one million dollars on their campaign when the limit was 60,000$...wait a minute wasn't it that evil Cruise ship crooner turned Billionaire that uses his means to get what he wants?? Isn't that evil billionaire that bends the rules to get himself into office?? Here is more to put in one's pipe and smoke: The Unione members have are also under investigation for voter fraud..it seems some of these individuals showed up at the Consulate and Embassy offices with boxes of sealed envelopes claiming the voters didn't want to send the ballots in by mail but mysteriously fell into the hands of the Unione members: the Carabinieri made its way to places such as British Columbia, Chicago and Ontario for an investigation....still waiting for RAI to report on this ....
Never said you were ... but it seems like I am guilty of the same 'crime' as you are: generalizing...every Northerner sh*ts on the very soul of the expat and Southerner whereas you assumed that every Italo American was responsible for gloryfying the Mafia as you once stated and that an Italian American is the furthest thing from an Italian but if that makes them happy why not...
I am willing to bet I have had to defend Italy and its culture to more people than the average Italian who actually highlights everything that is wrong with Italy and usually blames it on Berlusconi from the EURO to the Price of cell phones to the success of Juve and Milan.
Like I said, its hard for someone to hear they are the furthest thing from Italian because they called it TIRAMESU rather than TIRAMISU or SALAME rather than SALAMI especially when they live in constant reminder that they if they are rich and successful they are mobsters ..
When one opens his mouth day after day in here and posts without filtering it through is brain he should expect that once he makes yet another ridiculous statement i.e. I AM SOO ITALIAN that I LOVE IT it will open up the floodgates for bashing and ridicule...
Case in point: You will never hear me bashing a Gobbo for going to San Siro and partaking in stunts like balloon tossing or name calling ..
If one talks the talk they better be ready to WALK THE WALK
Erik said:
Communists don't have freedom of choice 
Ahh, and there's the rub. All of us Communists assume that we are entitled to be among the ruling oligarchs. We simply feel entitled to be the oppressors, never considering that we might actually end up as the oppressed. If we stopped for a minute and considered that we might be under the steel heel, then we probably would all turn into center-left democrotites.
@ Nick - Very good posts. I'm still not interested in going Brokeback with you, but I'm still waiting for your post World Cup schedule so we can get together (in a drink some beer, wine, Campari, and smoke cigars kind of way).
@ Andy - Though I was for Edmonton, I pass along my condolences for your Red Wings. They are really making a habit of early round exits. So much for the original six finale you dreamed of. Rangers gone, Red Wings gone, Canadiens . . . GONE!!!
@ Andy - Though I was for Edmonton, I pass along my condolences for your Red Wings. They are really making a habit of early round exits. So much for the original six finale you dreamed of. Rangers gone, Red Wings gone, Canadiens . . . GONE!!!
Allright, who wants to talk a little NFL draft??
Anyone??
I LOVE what the 49ers did in this draft. Getting two potential star players in Vernon Davis and Manny Lawson (despite he being from the very OVERRATED N.C. State. Seriously, how can a team with 3 Defensive Linemen drafted in the first round only have 7 wins last year?? anyway......)
Care to discuss your teams drafts, what you thought they did well, and what they didn't do so particularly well.
Let's See.....
Robert likes Green bay. I like the pick of A.J. Hawk. Honestly, I thought they were going to go for Vernon Davis, but I'm glad they didn't. They finally got some offensive line help in the 3rd round. The WR in the 2nd (Jennings) could turn out to be a really good ball player. Abdul Hodge in the 3rd, assuming he can overcome his character issues, is a steal.
Andy. Detroit.
Ernie Sims with the 9th pick, when they could have traded down at least a few spots to get him. Well..............at least he could be a good player.
Bullocks in the 2nd and Calhoun in the 3rd were good picks
Anyone??
I LOVE what the 49ers did in this draft. Getting two potential star players in Vernon Davis and Manny Lawson (despite he being from the very OVERRATED N.C. State. Seriously, how can a team with 3 Defensive Linemen drafted in the first round only have 7 wins last year?? anyway......)
Care to discuss your teams drafts, what you thought they did well, and what they didn't do so particularly well.
Let's See.....
Robert likes Green bay. I like the pick of A.J. Hawk. Honestly, I thought they were going to go for Vernon Davis, but I'm glad they didn't. They finally got some offensive line help in the 3rd round. The WR in the 2nd (Jennings) could turn out to be a really good ball player. Abdul Hodge in the 3rd, assuming he can overcome his character issues, is a steal.
Andy. Detroit.
Ernie Sims with the 9th pick, when they could have traded down at least a few spots to get him. Well..............at least he could be a good player.
Bullocks in the 2nd and Calhoun in the 3rd were good picks