Nick Against the World (67 Viewers)

Sep 28, 2002
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ok, so it didnt mean much in germany game, but the disallowed goal in poland game effectively gave to game to ecuadorans

i was shouting my head supporting poland. that was weird. never knew i can like them:D
 

Bjerknes

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Geof said:
yeah Alessio Secco stated that some of these guys will make it into the first squad next year. Criscito already trained with the big guys, but in SerieB we will be able to play these talented young lads.

Funny, I'm starting to see SerieB as an exciting challenge... Always look at the bright side of life.
Playing in Serie B would be pretty cool. Not only would we serve our time and hopefully win promotion through good football, but we fans would also become more accustomed to the football in the second division. Giving some of our youngsters playing time could be crucial for the future of our club as well. Life without the Triad might not be so bad afterall..
 

Bozi

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Byrone said:
Oh so true.i mean if we gave 10 youngsters a chance surely 3/10 should be able to make it big.Juve can't allow the squad to age visibly like Real.
the funny thing is the last few years transfer policy looks like we keep trying to bring the age of the squad up, thank god alex del piero is not a youngster now coming through the ranks. he would never have gotten a chance
 

Bozi

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Andy said:
Playing in Serie B would be pretty cool. Not only would we serve our time and hopefully win promotion through good football, but we fans would also become more accustomed to the football in the second division. Giving some of our youngsters playing time could be crucial for the future of our club as well. Life without the Triad might not be so bad afterall..
all together now "always look on the bright side of life"
with demotion hopefully we can earn our way back into the fans hearts, a move back to the comunalle would hopefully encourage the fans to turn up in their droves to see young players who they can identify with. this would give our youngsters good playing time and hopefully form a bond between players and fans
 
Sep 28, 2002
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Andy said:
Playing in Serie B would be pretty cool. Not only would we serve our time and hopefully win promotion through good football, but we fans would also become more accustomed to the football in the second division. Giving some of our youngsters playing time could be crucial for the future of our club as well. Life without the Triad might not be so bad afterall..
you've got to be kidding..
 

swag

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Fliakis said:
ok, so it didnt mean much in germany game, but the disallowed goal in poland game effectively gave to game to ecuadorans

i was shouting my head supporting poland. that was weird. never knew i can like them:D
Kind of a far cry from the last Poland-Lithuania friendly... :D
 

swag

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Fliakis said:
you've got to be kidding..
Well, it would completely suck to be in Serie B. But I think there is a bright side to this -- if you look for it. A foolish club would squander the demotion as a purely negative thing with no possible upside. A smart and wise club will accept the negatives, but will instead use it as an opportunity.

I liken it to buildings, or cities, that can be restructured when hit with a hurricane or massive fire. Throughout history, many of these examples came back stronger than ever -- using it as an opportunity to redo infrastructure for the longer term that they would otherwise be too busy with in the day-to-day to do anything but let it crumble.

Same with businesses and investors. The smart businesses and investors recognize economic downturns as opportunities to shore up things and do things they couldn't afford to do in up markets. They then position themselves to come back stronger than ever -- even compared with the competition that has cruised along quite successfully.

As I see it, all the teams in Serie A are running the rat race treadmill as fast as they can. You often hear of players who were in La Lega and Serie A and comment on how Serie A is too damn serious about winning every game -- how the pressure is immense unlike in other European leagues. That teams can become so obsessed with just the next week or season that they are often paralyzed to do anything with a mindset beyond that.

Juve could be in a position where they could afford to do the unimaginable for other Serie A clubs: investing in their youth system and capitalizing on that, setting up a new board and governance best suited for long-term success in light of today's sport and market forces, focusing on key players who are motivated by teamwork more than the gloryhounds, focusing on fans who support the team at its core and are less the distracted casual fans, etc. In a position with a lot less to lose, we can take more risks -- more smart risks -- and risks that will better pay off in the years ahead ... instead of multi-million-dollar ones spent on a lone transfer in the hopes he will make the difference in next season's CL trophy or not.
 
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    swag said:
    Well, it would completely suck to be in Serie B. But I think there is a bright side to this -- if you look for it. A foolish club would squander the demotion as a purely negative thing with no possible upside. A smart and wise club will accept the negatives, but will instead use it as an opportunity.

    I liken it to buildings, or cities, that can be restructured when hit with a hurricane or massive fire. Throughout history, many of these examples came back stronger than ever -- using it as an opportunity to redo infrastructure for the longer term that they would otherwise be too busy with in the day-to-day to do anything but let it crumble.

    Same with businesses and investors. The smart businesses and investors recognize economic downturns as opportunities to shore up things and do things they couldn't afford to do in up markets. They then position themselves to come back stronger than ever -- even compared with the competition that has cruised along quite successfully.

    As I see it, all the teams in Serie A are running the rat race treadmill as fast as they can. You often hear of players who were in La Lega and Serie A and comment on how Serie A is too damn serious about winning every game -- how the pressure is immense unlike in other European leagues. That teams can become so obsessed with just the next week or season that they are often paralyzed to do anything with a mindset beyond that.

    Juve could be in a position where they could afford to do the unimaginable for other Serie A clubs: investing in their youth system and capitalizing on that, setting up a new board and governance best suited for long-term success in light of today's sport and market forces, focusing on key players who are motivated by teamwork more than the gloryhounds, focusing on fans who support the team at its core and are less the distracted casual fans, etc. In a position with a lot less to lose, we can take more risks -- more smart risks -- and risks that will better pay off in the years ahead ... instead of multi-million-dollar ones spent on a lone transfer in the hopes he will make the difference in next season's CL trophy or not.
    In theory yes but in reality Juve would lose many players esp. those in their peak ... players that stay would probably be on the decline when they return to A...more over, it would be an uphill battle to get good youngsters or players from abroad to come to Juve...Milan went through its dark period and we had to settle for a has-been Paolo Rossi and mediocre foreign players for any hopes of creating a team...this lack of talent, depth and good players led to another demotion to Serie B ... only with a billionaire named Silvio did Milan bounce back in incredible fashion however, he spent as if money was no object ... I don't know if the current owners would do the same..
    Any big team in B would take years to recover from that blow
     

    Slagathor

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    So tomorrow might be do-able for us. We're playing against two countries, that can be tricky but if we play our cards right we might be able to cause some confusion between the two of them and take advantage. Up front they will have Kezman and Milosevic, the latter of which has been dead for a few months so that's that taken care of. I sense chances.
     
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    Erik said:
    So tomorrow might be do-able for us. We're playing against two countries, that can be tricky but if we play our cards right we might be able to cause some confusion between the two of them and take advantage. Up front they will have Kezman and Milosevic, the latter of which has been dead for a few months so that's that taken care of. I sense chances.
    Dont forget that 2 think better than 1, lol
     

    Stephan

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    Erik said:
    So tomorrow might be do-able for us. We're playing against two countries, that can be tricky but if we play our cards right we might be able to cause some confusion between the two of them and take advantage. Up front they will have Kezman and Milosevic, the latter of which has been dead for a few months so that's that taken care of. I sense chances.
    someone is getting confident :D
     

    swag

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    Erik said:
    So tomorrow might be do-able for us. We're playing against two countries, that can be tricky but if we play our cards right we might be able to cause some confusion between the two of them and take advantage. Up front they will have Kezman and Milosevic, the latter of which has been dead for a few months so that's that taken care of. I sense chances.
    Chances? Do you realize how many goals they gave up in qualifying? ;)
     

    Bjerknes

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    Fliakis said:
    you've got to be kidding..
    No I'm not kidding. Of course demotion to Serie B would almost be disasterous, however on the other hand it might not be as bad as we suspect. Even if it is as bad as we suspect, there is still a bright side to all of this and of course one of which is how we are ridding ourselves of the people who put us in this ridiculous position. Playing in B would be quite interesting despite the lack of television coverage.
     

    Bjerknes

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    Erik said:
    So tomorrow might be do-able for us. We're playing against two countries, that can be tricky but if we play our cards right we might be able to cause some confusion between the two of them and take advantage. Up front they will have Kezman and Milosevic, the latter of which has been dead for a few months so that's that taken care of. I sense chances.
    Teams that breeze through qualifying seem to sometimes stumble when the real tournament comes around and looks like an entire different unit. You can take Argentina and France as examples for that last time around. Serbia and Montenegro do not have that much quality in the team and obviously they lack world class talent. Their defense in the qualifiers was very solid, however this time around they have to face better teams and have the potential to choke on the big stage. I would not be surprised if Serbia finishes last...but to put things into perspective, I would not be surprised if Holland finishes last either.
     

    Dominic

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    Andy said:
    No I'm not kidding. Of course demotion to Serie B would almost be disasterous, however on the other hand it might not be as bad as we suspect. Even if it is as bad as we suspect, there is still a bright side to all of this and of course one of which is how we are ridding ourselves of the people who put us in this ridiculous position. Playing in B would be quite interesting despite the lack of television coverage.
    You're forgetting the most obvious and most costly thing; the amount of money we'll lose and miss out. That will be the most disastrous thing, something which will be hard to recover from.
     

    IlDivinCodino

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    based on the quotes of players who said they might stay with Juve, we have more than enough to get promoted right back to Serie A in just one season......
    However, if we really flop that up as well, then its totally game over
    We can afford to be in the Serie B for a year but not more than that definitely.
    Once we are repromoted, we'll stay at the middle of the table for awhile no doubt but based on Juve's legend and feats, it aint easy to lose their fan base.
    And fans who decided to have a change and support different clubs, I believe they will come back to Juve
    Its not like easy to just have a different cup of tea and root for another team just like that. And from what i see, fans are the most important for a particular football club.
    Every sport is nothing without the fans......

    True......Juve will waste a few seasons if they get relegated but its just a matter of time before they can rebuild themselves, and be one of the top football clubs in the world
     

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