Kaiser Franco said:
Io invece mi ricordo di uno che, oltre ad altre storpiature linguistiche di ogni tipo, non la smetteva di scrivere cannolo con una sola "n", e si spacciava pure come siciliano ! O un altro ancora che è venuto fuori con questa gemma : "sono pazzesco circa Juve !"
Mitici.
Ti spiego una cosa Libero: In Nord America CANNOLO si scrive anche con UNA "N" i.e. Canolo (sing.) Cannoli (Plur.) ... ansi io sono parte siciliano e infatti ho scritto cannoli oppure cannoli con una "N" ... sarebbe un sbaglio?? Sicuro ... Pero dopo 25 anni vivere in un altro paese (Stati Uniti) con tre dialetti a casa .. Inglese alla scuola..Francese nell'estate...normale che uno sbaglia....lo rende meno Italiano?? Per piacere...
For the sake of fellow posters I'm going to switch to English:
LIbero in what I consider a shot at many Italian-Americans here and the above statement IMPLICITLY being directed my way stated that a member once spelled canoli with one N despite claming Sicilian ancestry. IN fact, I have written both Cannoli and Canoli...it is common in the U.S. to spell it with one N and many recipes in English continue to spell it with one N...but I explained that having grown up with Italian parents and hearing 3 different dialects at home and English at school it is quite normal that slip ups like these occur or that influences (English language) occur...FFS in Italy there are more and more English words such as "Pullman" "Mister" and endless others...
Anyhow on to the other point. I grew up hearing parents (both Italian immigrants) speaking Italian at home...listening to Italian music, eating Italian food and living by an Italian mentality .... MANY non-Italians in schools pointed out how much of an Italian I highlighting the differences in my family and the average American...it is only normal that one begins to feel very Italian as later one realizes they have much in common with their fellow Italian-American....
Its funny because when I came to Italy for the first time as a kid a few locals in my grandmothers town in the Tuscany region mocked my Italian stating "you are a terron from America" (insult implying I work on the land, etc.) I started talking to them in English to which they looked at me oddly so I continued "I speak 3 languages...you speak one...who is the real "cafone" in all this??"
I notice that Italians from the North maintain this pompous arrogant attitude where they look at Italians abroad as an extension of those in the South..farmers who left and at this point are 'nouveau riche' with backgrounds etched in 'dirt'. THey barely consider people from the South of Le Marche Italian imagine what they think about those who left...living here for quite a while I have concluded that it is their way of assuring themselves that despite the wealth and success of people like Rudy Giuliani, Antonin Scalia, Mario Cuomo, Anthony Fauchi and company at the end of the day they are still "terrons" from places like Campagna, Calabria, Sicily, etc. I guess it allows certain people to convince themselves that despite others Italians being more successful than they are at the end a leopard is a leopard no matter what color its stripes...it is their way to convince themselves that they are still the blue blood of Italy.
Another point most of these Italians probably don't realize,
Italians in Italy live and work with their own...Italians in places like Australia and America have put up with racial slants, stereotypes and generalizations Italy's Italians only see in the movies...we have had to defend our background and nation..a NATION that in many cases forced our ancestors to leave because of poverty, etc. despite the 'motherland' leaving our parents, grandparents, etc with no choice but to leave we continue to defend the nation, we continue to try to educate people and dispell stereotypes...we defend Italy more than most Italians in Italy ever will and for this we are labeled the furthest thing from Italians....for this we are laughed at because of grammar errors, because of being influenced by the local language in the spelling of an Italian pastry....
How many Italians in Italy have been called mobsters because their family may have attained a certain level of success.
How many Italians in Italy have EVER heard the word WOP, DAGO, Greaseball or GUIDO utttered their way...
How many Italians in Italy have had their car scratched because they had an Italian symbol on the car??
How many Italians in Italy have had countless school yard fights because they felt they had to defend their background and nationality??
When you have...let me know then maybe you will understand why calling someone like Vince and myself (and the rest) the furthest thign from an Italian is the biggest SLAP in the face in the world...
Good Day
On a side note: Gino Genesio's general posts irk many people because they are pointless and not much thought goes into them....when he proclaims that he is the ultimate Italian this bugs many people considering the crap he has shot out before..its only normal we will find reasons to laugh and attack him..rightfully so..
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