Nick Against the World (62 Viewers)

[Layce Erayce]

I'll quote furiobiancoero:

"I have evidence here- a picture of the 8-dicked octopus, and dida. together in the same room"

 

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[The Pado]

Furio has never said that! The only time Furio has ever mentioned octopus is when he is ordering it off a menu. And Furio and I would never insult Dida. Saving pk's in a CL Final is one step from heaven. Nothing but respect.

 

[Layce Erayce]

and true to his style, furio assumes that it was claimed that he insulted dida, when merely all he did was take a picture of them making sweet sweet love in the lobby of a fortune-500 company building with tacc on standby with a notebook, taking down notes on interesting positions to try out

 

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++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++

My avatar is not meant to impress. You guys are too limited with size.

I think it's a Juventus thing. Don't be big, flashy and egocentric. Just get the job done

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How am I supposed to work with 64 by 64?!!!! Any freelance avatar makers willing to swallow "the pill" and make a non -Juve one

Sure, what were u thinking?

 

[IncuboRossonero]

Remember that DP Pic in front of the Champions Cup draped in Black and Red banners?!

 

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k, just post it (preferably in the avatars center, or if people are gonna get touchy, PM it to me)

 

[Zizou]

Hmm Incubo is always complaining that we do not give him enough football material to challenge him, yet when some good ones appear he avoids them. I thought you'd at lesat try to reply to Vialli's quote.

 

[Layce Erayce]

hey's ignoring your post like a disease glenn. he did that to me too. i think its because were not on his list or something.

 

[IncuboRossonero]

++ [ originally posted by Zizou ] ++
Hmm Incubo is always complaining that we do not give him enough football material to challenge him, yet when some good ones appear he avoids them. I thought you'd at lesat try to reply to Vialli's quote.

Zizou..I heard that quote a long time ago. Personally I don't think the players knew what was going on...lets face it some are not the "sharpest tool in the shed" and when your management says "take this" after your six figure paycheck you tend to smile and 'swallow'. They should have known better? Perhaps....
They should have realized their abilities and endurance and what not increased? Perhaps...
They are protecting old friends? Perhaps...
They are told what to say? Perhaps....
They are telling the truth? Perhaps...

If I had to guess...Vialli did know what was going while players like Zidane and Del Piero were probably less aware.

 

[Zizou]

That quote was actually dated 8th january 2004.

But Vialli knew what he was taking and confirmed them to the the court and the court found out that they are not illegal substances (creatine was at the time also advertised on the monthly FIGC or referee magazine).

Conte did say that he did not know what he was taking and the substances that Vialli mentioned corresponded to those that were found in the blood of the players. So since the court said they were legal substances it's back to square one.

 

[IncuboRossonero]

My mistake but if I'm not mistaken this is not the first time he has made a statement on the topic and they seem to say the same thing..I probably assumed it was an older statement.

Your "square one" reasoning is not as simple as you think. Firstly, there is nothing to suggest that Vialli is telling the truth OR that he was told of all that he was taking. If experts reports, tests, analysts show the opposite as it has..its really not back to square one. More over, its up to the court to determine the probative force of testimony. e.g. Just because Mr. X said he never met Mr. Y it does not mean the court MUST conclude they never met.
In addition, Vialli's testimony MAY actually help the prosecutor. They don't claim that the players were behind the scandal but rather that management in question were evasive with them and supplied the illegal substances. Thus, showing that the players honestly believed they were talking legal substances but reports show the opposite it goes towards the cover-up.

 

[Zizou]

Vialli was one of the players who was tested and in which they found high concentration of those substances. However the court said they are not illegal (and it's quite general knowledge they're not). That's what Vialli is saying I think.

 

[Zlatan]

What I heard is that the supstances they were taking are illegal now, but were in fact legal at that time. Well, thats what the commentator here said .

 

[IncuboRossonero]

++ [ originally posted by Zizou ] ++
Vialli was one of the players who was tested and in which they found high concentration of those substances. However the court said they are not illegal (and it's quite general knowledge they're not). That's what Vialli is saying I think.

AGAIN..the story is not that simple. As ShadowFax stated there were unexplainable and questionable high levels of iron, etc. in some of their tests and the sheer mass build up in players like Vialli and Del Piero. Not everything is cut and dry. If it was there would never have been enough evidence to warrant filing charges.
Anyhow, as for Vialli I'm not sure the situation. However, the word in the inner circles is that Zidane constantly questioned what was going on even when he was at the club. We will see what happens when his deposition is released.

 

[Zizou]

Yez Z they made them illegal afterwards but before those same substances were being advertised on the Lega magazine to show how legal they were.

Incubo and when will they release Zidane's deposition?

 

[IncuboRossonero]

Zizou..no idea. I don't even know if he was questioned yet. With his schedule and now that he is living in Spain the Italian subpoena has to work around his schedule and not vice-versa.
I'll do some research.

Last I heard was that Inzaghi is supposed to be next. He is the big question mark. Many theories flying around that he will "spill the beans" so to speak and be the star witness due to his contempt for his old team. I think this is all media 'garbage' and like most he will tell what he knew.

 

[IncuboRossonero]

Anybody know a good site to buy team jerseys??

(besides Subside.co.uk)

 

[The Pado]

++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
Anybody know a good site to buy team jerseys??

(besides Subside.co.uk)

Subside is the best, in my experience. You could try your luck at ebay, or simply log on at www.juvestore.com

 

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++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
when your management says "take this" you tend to smile and 'swallow'.

Dude I think you should have a talk to your employers, because that sounds pretty unprofessional to me :LOL:

man, i should be a journalist

 

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++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++

However, the word in the inner circles is that Zidane constantly questioned what was going on even when he was at the club.

Maybe that's why they sold him :devil:

++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
Last I heard was that Inzaghi is supposed to be next. He is the big question mark. Many theories flying around that he will "spill the beans" so to speak and be the star witness due to his contempt for his old team.

But again, won't the probative force of Inzaghi's testimony come into question? Especially considering that everyone knows that his feelings toward Juve are far from savory