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++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
That Chelsea clip rules :dielaugh:
Now I'd really love to know if Mourinho got a listen to it and to hear his response. :howler:

Hunky? What's hunky? The hamburger or the staff?

Anyway, this better not be a trick :D
Would I lie to you? :angel:

http://www.sisterbetty.org/photos/020530.htm

And a review from CitySearch for ya:

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++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++


Face it. Serie A would be crap without a team they love to hate such as Juve. :D

And as Juve fans we get to hate Fiorentina, Inter, Roma, Milan, and Torino even before we've had our morning coffee :D


(But, I actually like Torino, keep that to yourselves ;) ).
 

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++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++


Now I'd really love to know if Mourinho got a listen to it and to hear his response. :howler:
I think he will discover himself (not in the meaning of the phrase :p) and start doing it for real :D
 
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    ++ [ originally posted by juventus2 ] ++


    Yes, but Maldini helped Italy to go out sooner out of the WC 2002. Scirea on the other hand never did that
    Thats not an argument when speaking about a PLAYER...besides, Scirea never had Maldini's longevity in playing..he was retired and OVER THE HILL at an age where Maldini was still a world class defender...
     
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    ++ [ originally posted by Padovano ] ++
    Nick, the fact that you have had a talking asshole for the last two years leads me to believe that this is your "MOST SUCCESSFUL PERIOD". All hail Juventus - The Evil Empire.
    No, it was not ... anything Milan does now pales in comparison to the Sacchi days and Milan's ressurection in Italy and Europe...Milan fans went through a lot in the 80's and to cap it off with a Scudetto and CL Title and be one of hte best ever....that will never be matched.
     
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    I really fail to see how setting up the winning goal in a WC final makes Scirea better. The same goes for his WC record for that matter. But if we want to examine it, it turns out that Baresi has in fact an even more impressive record, strictly from a defender's point of view at least.

    Baresi presided the defence of the team that set the all-time record of most successive WC games without conceding a goal : 5 games in WC 1990. Considering it's mostly offensive players that score the goals which make you win the game, I'd say this is the most impressive achievement a defender can reach on the international stage.
     

    The Pado

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    Is that Nick doing the talking or . . .

    his arse? :D

    Italy have been blessed with great defenders and this argument is for the shitter. The point was that the Juve of Cabrini and Scirea were the best in Juve's long history. Then all you shoe-wankers started crap that Nick felt he had to defend. So, shit in a bucket, take your EPO, and go watch the Tour de France.
     
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    Of course I know that, and I also know that ranking defenders in terms of goals scored is wrong as well. However, in the case of Scirea, he set up the winning goal in the Final and helped lead Italy to their first World Cup since WWII...that must count for something. Unforunately Maldini has never been able to lift the World Cup...does that make him any less of a legend? No. Is Scirea any more of a legend because he set up the winning goal in the Final and actually lifted the Cup? I would have to say YES. Unlike Brazil, Italy has to cherish their victories.
    Counts for personal glory and not ranking defenders side by side...to me there is no ifs and or buts..thats the way I see it. A player that makes his Serie A debut at 16 and National Team debut at 18 and goes on to create what is considered the greatest D in the World AND is constantly on the lips of Golden Ball voters even at 37 years old is on a whole different level than Scirea plainly never had the same talent as Maldini
     

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    ++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++


    Counts for personal glory and not ranking defenders side by side...to me there is no ifs and or buts..thats the way I see it. A player that makes his Serie A debut at 16 and National Team debut at 18 and goes on to create what is considered the greatest D in the World AND is constantly on the lips of Golden Ball voters even at 37 years old is on a whole different level than Scirea plainly never had the same talent as Maldini
    Did he ever win it? No


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    And Kasier Franco the fact is that in the most important match of their lives, Scirea handled the pressure and Bares did not (82 and 94). And this has got to have a bearing on the way tha players are valued.
     
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    Well Emmanuel Small handled the pressure pretty well in that glorious summer night of 1998 in Paris. Heck he even scored the goal that killed the game. Would you say this earns him a seat next to Giresse or Tigana in the Pantheon of French midfielders?

    Now besides the missed penalty, have you actually seen Baresi's game in the WC 1994 final?

    And which was the most decisive in each team's successes/progressing throughout the tournament? Scirea's defence in 82 or Baresi's in 94 (or at least for the little he played) and especially in 1990?

    I will let you gobbi ponder on these few queries, like Cabrini on his way to miss the peno in the 82 final while the score was still 0-0.
     
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    Did he ever win it? No


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    And Kasier Franco the fact is that in the most important match of their lives, Scirea handled the pressure and Bares did not (82 and 94). And this has got to have a bearing on the way tha players are valued.
    I have not witnessed such pure uncensored horsesh*t in my life. Please, go learn your basics on football before you give us your cents in this thread.
    1. You are treating it like its a tennis match: as if one player's mental state and talent ALONE will change the course of the match. Its a TEAM there were many players on the squad ... if you knew your history you would know that Baresi was injured for most of WC 94 AND more importantly, A GOAL WAS NOT SCORED IN THE FINAL BY THE OPPOSITION when he did play. SEE, there was nothing more Baresi could do even if someone is to take your 'keystone cops' rationale with two grains of salt.
    Re-watch WC 94 and watch Baresi's performance AND he came off a 6 game injury AND he faced a much more talented (offensive wise) Brazilian squad who could not get past the KAISER for 120 minutes.

    2. Yes, but did he win it? So by your rationale Baresi and Maldini do not compare to LeBoeuf of France because HE won a World Cup and in that important match he came up big ...

    3. JOG ON SON.
     
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    ++ [ originally posted by Padovano ] ++
    Is that Nick doing the talking or . . .

    his arse? :D

    Italy have been blessed with great defenders and this argument is for the shitter. The point was that the Juve of Cabrini and Scirea were the best in Juve's long history. Then all you shoe-wankers started crap that Nick felt he had to defend. So, shit in a bucket, take your EPO, and go watch the Tour de France.
    Never thought I would say this but..

    go shit in a coffee can and may if you are planning on having an Agricola physical anytime soon I suggest you shit in a bucket instead.
     

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