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king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
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Only thing that works is a change from within, just like what I said regarding the issue with black on black crime and the police. Muslims need to weed out the bad apples. Otherwise they are going to destroy themselves or get bombed.
And how is that practical exactly? How are my parents for example supposed to weed out the bad apples? Kill them?
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
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How is the US invasion of Iraq remotely related to a French-Tunisian man mowing down 77 people in a coastal city in France?
Destabilizing a region with multiple sects and religions, a long history of dictatorship, and a lack of education, and killing of innocent people who didn't know and still don't know why they were/are being killed was always going to create extremism. Not to mention that the same people who started that war were responsible for creating and funding extremist groups to begin with. What happens in Europe (and Bangladesh and Lebanon and Turkey btw, because people who die there are also human beings) is nothing but an expansion of such extremism from where it used to take its most victims and nobody cared (i.e., middle-east) to other parts of the world.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Destabilizing a region with multiple sects and religions, a long history of dictatorship, and a lack of education, and killing of innocent people who didn't know and still don't know why they were/are being killed was always going to create extremism. Not to mention that the same people who started that war were responsible for creating and funding extremist groups to begin with. What happens in Europe (and Bangladesh and Lebanon and Turkey btw, because people who die there are also human beings) is nothing but an expansion of such extremism from where it used to take its most victims and nobody cared (i.e., middle-east) to other parts of the world.
It's a lot more direct
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...d-11e6-8758-d58e76e11b12_story.html?tid=a_inl
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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So you're only religious if you're willing to kill someone else in the name of your religion? Not sure I follow that definition.



If you want to kill your neighbor because of their inferior car, however, that does make you religious. :D



Damn. France can't catch a break.
You deliberately missed the point. Didn't expect that from you tbh.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
38,189
How is the US invasion of Iraq remotely related to a French-Tunisian man mowing down 77 people in a coastal city in France?
We won't know if it is, but the fact you dismiss it simply based on geographical reasons is almost medieval. You can have breakfast in Bagdad and eat dinner in Paris. So obviously things that happen in Bagdad can have repercussions in Paris.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Islamic imperialism occurred long before the US even existed.



Honestly, your posts sound as if you actually support the slaughter of civilians. You draw on past events that may or may not have any bearing on why this or other terrorist events occurred. I don't think you want to see this happen, mind you. But if this eye for an eye stance is what you believe in, then surely BLM is right in promoting violence against all whites and police.
I could have sworn that you were the one who brought up the US in this thread.
 

Juliano13

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May 6, 2012
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The same bombing that wrecked a country for no reason or is it the bombing that created isis? Or wait was it the bombing that created the CIA funded Mujahideen in Afghanistan?

Sorry but this is the cost and results of an illegal war which will haunt the west for a very long time.
And may the retardation begin..

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Islamic imperialism occurred long before the US even existed.



Honestly, your posts sound as if you actually support the slaughter of civilians. You draw on past events that may or may not have any bearing on why this or other terrorist events occurred. I don't think you want to see this happen, mind you. But if this eye for an eye stance is what you believe in, then surely BLM is right in promoting violence against all whites and police.
Has there been any indication that he doesn't? It's the same with all the terrorist apologists. They are so engulfed by their blind hatred for America that you never actually hear them say the most obvious thing: the terrorists are to blame and killing civilians like this is not acceptable. You never hear them say it, or they only say it with so many ifs and buts, because they don't believe in it.
 

Hængebøffer

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Jun 4, 2009
25,185
Too much work haven't followed much. But if people blame the West again, they can go fuck themselves. Let's us see if this is another person who grew up in the West. The "blame the West game" is is ridicolous. It still baffles me that people here says black people in America are whiny children, but are calling muslims victims. Where's all the terrorist attacks from Asia?
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
So he's French :howler: People should stop making excuses. ISIS kills and rapes all ethnicities. Well-educated people join them too. People who grew up in comforting countries. People should stop making excuses.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
38,189
Too much work haven't followed much. But if people blame the West again, they can go fuck themselves. Let's us see if this is another person who grew up in the West. The "blame the West game" is is ridicolous. It still baffles me that people here says black people in America are whiny children, but are calling muslims victims. Where's all the terrorist attacks from Asia?
Isn't Afghanistan Asia?
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
21,689
And may the retardation begin..

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Has there been any indication that he doesn't? It's the same with all the terrorist apologists. They are so engulfed by their blind hatred for America that you never actually hear them say the most obvious thing: the terrorists are to blame and killing civilians like this is not acceptable. You never hear them say it, or they only say it with so many ifs and buts, because they don't believe in it.
There's no ifs and buts, those who kill are at fault.

Then you can choose to fault Islam and be left with absolutely no practical solution to the problem, or you can choose to take a look back at the history and try to understand why what happens happens. Extremists were not created out of thin air, they were created and funded by those you defend, and they killed and are killing people and are destroying lives in a region whose oil has made it home to the ugliest and deadliest form of human greed. There you may have a civil solution: you can protest a war that your country wants to start tens of thousands of kilometers away from your home.
 

Juliano13

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May 6, 2012
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The West is NOT to blame! I am sick of that too. Who is to blame? Radical Islam. This stuff would happen regardless according to their twisted interpretations of religion.
Actually, the West can be blamed for the Paris and Nice attacks, because they didn't send ground troops to destroy ISIS. It's long overdue and it's shameful that the civilized world tolerates this freak. There is no doubt that things would have been a lot better if the USA had attacked ISIS when they only had 1 city - Racca. But because all the terrorist-loving lefties were against it, Obama didn't do it. You know, the usual "look what happened in Iraq "lets not piss them off, it will cause more terrorism" garbage.

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There's no ifs and buts, those who kill are at fault.

Then you can choose to fault Islam and be left with absolutely no practical solution to the problem, or you can choose to take a look back at the history and try to understand why what happens happens. Extremists were not created out of thin air, they were created and funded by those you defend, and they killed and are killing people and are destroying lives in a region whose oil has made it home to the ugliest and deadliest form of human greed. There you may have a civil solution: you can protest a war that your country wants to start tens of thousands of kilometers away from your home.
I defend the civilised world. Terrorists are funded by ISIS and Al Qaeda, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and your home country.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Too much work haven't followed much. But if people blame the West again, they can go fuck themselves. Let's us see if this is another person who grew up in the West. The "blame the West game" is is ridicolous. It still baffles me that people here says black people in America are whiny children, but are calling muslims victims. Where's all the terrorist attacks from Asia?
Any innocent person who is killed is a victim. Those who were killed in Baghdad couple of weeks ago and those who were killed today. Any person who is wronged without having deserved it is also a victim. A Muslim who is blamed/harassed/criticized/expected to apologize/expected to do something for what he/she hasn't done is also a victim. Those who kill are not victims, they are criminals, muslim or not. Fine?

Now if you think we've settled that part, who do you think is at fault except of course the suicide bomber?

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Actually, the West can be blamed for the Paris and Nice attacks, because they didn't send ground troops to destroy ISIS. It's long overdue and it's shameful that the civilized world tolerates this freak. There is no doubt that things would have been a lot better if the USA had attacked ISIS when they only had 1 city - Racca. But because all the terrorist-loving lefties were against it, Obama didn't do it. You know, the usual "look what happened in Iraq "lets not piss them off, it will cause more terrorism" garbage.

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I defend the civilised world. Terrorists are funded by ISIS and Al Qaeda, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and your home country.
Saudi and Qatar, you mean the civilized world's allies?

 

Juliano13

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
5,016
Now if you think we've settled that part, who do you think is at fault except of course the suicide bomber?
Those who preach radical Islam - they recruit or help recruit terrorists.
ISIS - they want a global caliphate and the fact that they control territory inspires many people around the world to join them or commit terrorist attacks.
Saudi Arabia - back in the 70s they were one of the very few fundamentalist countries, but then they got all that oil money and have been using it ever since to spread their disgusting ideology.
Qatar and all other countries that fund terrorism.

There are other contributing factors and America has done some stupid things that haven't helped, but that is totally different from saying that America has created the terrorists.

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Any innocent person who is killed is a victim. Those who were killed in Baghdad couple of weeks ago and those who were killed today. Any person who is wronged without having deserved it is also a victim. A Muslim who is blamed/harassed/criticized/expected to apologize/expected to do something for what he/she hasn't done is also a victim. Those who kill are not victims, they are criminals, muslim or not. Fine?

Now if you think we've settled that part, who do you think is at fault except of course the suicide bomber?

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Saudi and Qatar, you mean the civilized world's allies?

Yes.
 

ZoSo

TSUUUUUUU
Jul 11, 2011
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So he's French :howler: People should stop making excuses. ISIS kills and rapes all ethnicities. Well-educated people join them too. People who grew up in comforting countries. People should stop making excuses.
Here, I will fix all the problems

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Saudi and Qatar, you mean the civilized world's allies?

Fuck that bitch, she is not civilised. She only cares about herself ($$$$$$$), not western countries or the people in them
 

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