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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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That's why you have to sign waivers, because something that works for 99.9% of people isn't flawless, people can have all kind of underlying issues that trigger reactions.
Yeah, but there's still a difference. With the measles vaccines I don't think there is a known serious side effect. It's like flawless for 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of people.
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
Well vaccines can have side effects. I don't think you could ever deny that. But when it comes to stuff like the measles there are hardly any known serious side effects.
I agree, I just stated something from my personal exp on this subject.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
One of my mothers friends husband died after getting some vaccine when going to asia. As far as I know it was one of the standard ones and from a good medical institution too.
Well, then imagine if he didnt take the vaccine and went there, getting the full blown alive bacteria/virus.


Not vaccinating is retarded, especially with children.


Where did this even come from ? Some braindeath mothers who gladly believe the "down syndrome" theory so their little shit doesnt have to cry for an injection ? Seriously..
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
Well, then imagine if he didnt take the vaccine and went there, getting the full blown alive bacteria/virus.


Not vaccinating is retarded, especially with children.


Where did this even come from ? Some braindeath mothers who gladly believe the "down syndrome" theory so their little shit doesnt have to cry for an injection ? Seriously..
Chillout.

He got one of those regular ones like, not ebola vaccines. And it was not a child, it was a grown man that got a vaccine, and I posted it not to say we shouldn't do vaccines, just a comment to the topic, not a rant or fight.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Chillout.

He got one of those regular ones like, not ebola vaccines. And it was not a child, it was a grown man that got a vaccine, and I posted it not to say we shouldn't do vaccines, just a comment to the topic, not a rant or fight.
Yeah, those were intended to be separate.


I had a talk about this topic last night, still riled up about it :D
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
Yeah, I know. And I'm glad you understand that something that is very unfortunate should not necessarily change your opinion on the matter.
I will vaccine my born children, and take a risk of 0.11111% rather then the percents that start with and can go upwards 1.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,783
In the case of vaccines, it's not the hardline religious folk. It's the overprotective soccer moms that think an mmr shot is gonna make their kid autistic. You have entire communities in the pacific northwest that live the vaccine free life. Last year they caused a measels epidemic.
It's a segment of society that thinks their personal, unvalidated science and ideas outsmart the general scientific community. It's Steve Jobs trying to outsmart his cancer doctors by refusing surgery for a year while he ate nothing but peas.

I wasn't just talking about the religious folk. Plenty of people are crazy. The only redeeming factor I suppose is that in some parts of Europe we have had vaccines that turned out to cause horrible complications in an extremely small number of cases.
We live in an age of so much information, everyone has convenient access to some use case or news headlining where something different happened than what established science would expect. And these exceptions become sacrosanct and a foundation for dogmatic fallacy.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,255
In the case of vaccines, it's not the hardline religious folk. It's the overprotective soccer moms that think an mmr shot is gonna make their kid autistic. You have entire communities in the pacific northwest that live the vaccine free life. Last year they caused a measels epidemic.
Saw an episode of law and order svu on that :D
 

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