News that makes you say WTF! (42 Viewers)

[Seven]

In my first post about the matter, i've spoken about the problematic regions in the world about that.
Congo is one of those "parts of africa". I think they rank pretty high on that "sexual cleansing myth" rank. Not far off south africa

But since you talk about Congo, i'll give you this. Its a massive issue there, we agree ? What if such males come here, Illegally or not, without an integration plan, and set loose ?

UN troops have been known to have raped women in the Congo.

So in short rape stats are skewed because some countries class things like groping or non-penetrative assaults as rape yet some others don't?

Then of course there is the issue of non-recording, incorrectly recording, bribery, threats, culture etc.

In all fairness most countries do require some act of penetration before classifying a sexual crime as rape.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

In my first post about the matter, i've spoken about the problematic regions in the world about that.
Congo is one of those "parts of africa". I think they rank pretty high on that "sexual cleansing myth" rank. Not far off south africa

But since you talk about Congo, i'll give you this. Its a massive issue there, we agree ? What if such males come here, Illegally or not, without an integration plan, and set loose ?



Its hilarious how i get shot here. The only point i'm making, is that several parts of the world have disgusting crime against women flowing freely, that there is not a problem with immigration, but that you have to do proper integration. Belgium is a class example of how integration of certain groups went desperatly wrong.

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Is there a country lower on the female rights list, then saudi arabia ?

well according to you and your crappy stats sweden is, also have you been to saudi? have you conducted a study with women there to see if they indeed feel oppressed?

 

[Seven]

"dude relax, its zach"


Seriously Seven ? Seriously ?

Seriously.

I know you mean well, but sometimes you assume you know everything about a subject when clearly you don't. You don't have extensive experience with either immigration or law and you don't seem very experienced with statistics either. Add to that you know pretty much nothing about Sweden and you are basing this opinion on thin air.

 

[Elvin]

Rape is a big, big problem in India though. Almost every independent report I've ever read about the subject says so. I've also met several people who fled India and said as much.

Bet rapes will increase with the porn-ban now. I'm serious.

 

[Zacheryah]

According to that way of thinking, everything western media report about russia, has 0 credibility.

And no, sweden isnt. In fact they rank pretty high on the female rights list.

 

[Seven]

According to that way of thinking, everything western media report about russia, has 0 credibility.

And no, sweden isnt. In fact they rank pretty high on the female rights list.

It does have little credibility. We face the same problems in China and North Korea.

 

[Zacheryah]

Seriously.

I know you mean well, but sometimes you assume you know everything about a subject when clearly you don't. You don't have extensive experience with either immigration or law and you don't seem very experienced with statistics either. Add to that you know pretty much nothing about Sweden and you are basing this opinion on thin air.

I dont assume anything. I have quite a bit more experience with immigration (belgium that is), and am experienced enough with statistics. Sweden not doing it properly is something i wasent aware off.
What i know of sweden, i have of general news reports about it, wich as i've said i found quite shocking.
However, i'll be dammned if someone is accusing me, especially that angry man, of "an agenda" when the swedish extremist party is accusing muslims, where i clearly said that was "hilarious" to say.
So the angry man can quite clearly stop accusing me of running an agenda

 

[Seven]

I dont assume anything. I have quite a bit more experience with immigration (belgium that is), and am experienced enough with statistics. Sweden not doing it properly is something i wasent aware off.
What i know of sweden, i have of general news reports about it, wich as i've said i found quite shocking.
However, i'll be dammned if someone is accusing me, especially that angry man, of "an agenda" when the swedish extremist party is accusing muslims, where i clearly said that was "hilarious" to say.
So the angry man can quite clearly stop accusing me of running an agenda

Your experience is that you live in Antwerp. So do I. That's hardly extensive experience with the problems of migration. As for Sweden 'not doing it right'. We don't know what doing it right means. We say the multicultural society has failed, but fact is every society since the Dark Ages has been multicultural.

To be completely fair I don't know what point you are trying to make.

 

[Zacheryah]

Your experience is that you live in Antwerp. So do I. That's hardly extensive experience with the problems of migration. As for Sweden 'not doing it right'. We don't know what doing it right means. We say the multicultural society has failed, but fact is every society since the Dark Ages has been multicultural.

To be completely fair I don't know what point you are trying to make.

Is it ? My father was worked his way up from cleric to board secretary at OCMW Zemst. They deal with immigration on daily base. My sisters works with "kind en gezin" for several years now, first in antwerp, then in brussels, and is trying pretty hard to move to the east flemish province.
I've worked at securitas as a night patrol, in the region of Anderlecht, Sint Jans Molenbeek. i've lived in Kiel itself, and still go to the gym there. Not the ghetto gym, cause that was simply not possible beeing white.
I'm friends with several immigrants who i've met in both gyms, to complete my understanding.
Especially the iraqi guy. i've leared quite a bit about islam way of thinking from him. I hope he stays here. He's graduating as industrial engineer next year. But he's considering going back to iraq to fight against isis, who have murdered several of his family members allready. He's about the best view on the "saddam hussein situation" you can have aswel.
I prefer talking to him rather then reading what the media thinks about the middle east

 

[Seven]

Is it ? My father was worked his way up from cleric to board secretary at OCMW Zemst. They deal with immigration on daily base. My sisters works with "kind en gezin" for several years now, first in antwerp, then in brussels, and is trying pretty hard to move to the east flemish province.
I've worked at securitas as a night patrol, in the region of Anderlecht, Sint Jans Molenbeek. i've lived in Kiel itself, and still go to the gym there. Not the ghetto gym, cause that was simply not possible beeing white.
I'm friends with several immigrants who i've met in both gyms, to complete my understanding.
Especially the iraqi guy. i've leared quite a bit about islam way of thinking from him. I hope he stays here. He's graduating as industrial engineer next year. But he's considering going back to iraq to fight against isis, who have murdered several of his family members allready. He's about the best view on the "saddam hussein situation" you can have aswel.
I prefer talking to him rather then reading what the media thinks about the middle east

Yes, those are all great for anecdotal evidence. Like I said, your experience is living/working in Antwerp/Belgium.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

you are being uncharacteristically unscientific in your approach here Zach

 

[JuveJay]

Can we rename thread to 'The thread that makes you say WTF!?'.

 

[Zacheryah]

you are being uncharacteristically unscientific in your approach here Zach

I could make a big list of belgian sources on this very case. Thing is, if i do i'll get responded with "political influence" and "pushing an agenda" so i prefer to refrain from statistics and influental people.


de wever versus vermeersch was a most excellent debate about immigration and integration in belgium. Both notoriously backed by facts. my personal experience followed what they said

 

[icemaη]

It's like they're little Donald Trumps... without all the cash.

My exact thought at the moment

Can we rename thread to 'The thread that makes you say WTF!?'.

I vote for this

 

[Oggy]

True though, it's in the Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...errorists-flag-group-s-influence-spreads.html

Maoča is so old school, police raided that village on several occasions and it's highly monitored. Now we have village called Ošve, although there aren't any Jihadi's in it, just some muslims with suspiciously long beards

 

[swag]

Rape is a big, big problem in India though. Almost every independent report I've ever read about the subject says so. I've also met several people who fled India and said as much.

Dude, you clearly have never been to India.

 

[lgorTudor]

Just meet up and fight already

 

[Seven]

Dude, you clearly have never been to India.

No, but the women who file for asylum in Belgium because they fear being raped in India have.. Also, why even try to deny that it is a problem?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Every army had a rapists in its ranks - WWI, II, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Serbian conflicts, Chechnya, i don't know why it's happening, the war is pure shit, it turns people into animals, at some people heads brain doesn't want to work at all in war's circumstances
For example - in abkhazian-georgian conflict, the local rebels + terrorists from chenchya especially used the heads of georgian soldiers as football, they even played matches with it, while soldiers from georgian side raped absolutely innocent women who were not even abkhazian and were not supporting the rebels, just think about it - to play in football literally with someone's head

 

[Zacheryah]

No, but the women who file for asylum in Belgium because they fear being raped in India have.. Also, why even try to deny that it is a problem?

THis, very much.