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Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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If you can link that campaign when its done, and answer the numbers and statistics everyone can see on the web at the moment, i'll gladly take my time to read it.

As much of a bigottry as it may sound, i was shocked one of the western world's model country's was having such high rape statistics.
Did you even read the link I posted? It's explained very well there.

And I've tried to get any data concerning the perpetrator's profiles, but literally every website on the topic has such a clear agenda it can't be taken seriously or as a trustworthy source.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,346
Wow, some serious racism in here. Indians are rapists and foreigners bring rape to Europe? What the fuck is wrong with you?
Rape is a big, big problem in India though. Almost every independent report I've ever read about the subject says so. I've also met several people who fled India and said as much.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,502
Seriously? That's insane
You actually believe this doofus? The ignorant mofo also equates it to immigrants and integration in his post :sergio:

It's statistical and legal BS, I can call the cops right now and report a rape and it will be permanently be in the record for the whole year, despite me making it up / having no basis for it. Reporting it is enough to be in the record, unlike other countries who mainly count it after they investigated and proven it was rape.

Have had this same topic discussed brought up before over at times (by law students and Lawyers I know, apparently if a woman says she has been raped by boyfriend or spouse past year, the police will count each day of the year as separate rape count, hugely inflating the figures) , the issue isn't this statistical BS error of showing the figures that makes it moot. The issue is updating our sex / rape laws so the real actual rapes that happen get processed and tried as consistent as possible.

But it's far far from common as the clown says, lived here nearly my whole life and barely hear of or know anyone getting raped despite being in the biggiest city of the country regularly.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
You actually believe this doofus? The ignorant mofo also equates it to immigrants and integration in his post :sergio:

It's statistical and legal BS, I can call the cops right now and report a rape and it will be permanently be in the record for the whole year, despite me making it up / having no basis for it. Reporting it is enough to be in the record, unlike other countries who mainly count it after they investigated and proven it was rape.

Have had this same topic discussed brought up before over at times (by law students and Lawyers I know, apparently if a woman says she has been raped by boyfriend or spouse past year, the police will count each day of the year as separate rape count, hugely inflating the figures) , the issue isn't this statistical BS error of showing the figures that makes it moot. The issue is updating our sex / rape laws so the real actual rapes that happen get processed and tried as consistent as possible.

But it's far far from common as the clown says, lived here nearly my whole life and barely hear of or know anyone getting raped despite being in the biggiest city of the country regularly.
"Believe this doofus". thats nice


This news has been all over europe. Even in Belgian media. Its a bit hard to find something objective. Right extremist groups will pull the "its the muslims" agenda, and leftist will pull the "its swedish males who want to punish women for wanting to be equal". Both are obviously rediculous.

Thing is, the rate of convicted rape crimes, is very high. And it correlates with their unbridled immigration policy.

Several times, in rather objective media, this swedish example is used to note that the most important part of immigration, is integration.


Now i'm awaiting what Nzoric is going to come up with. You know, he's a constructive guy.


You are just someone who feels immediatly offended by fucking everything, and will attack whoever says it. A bit like a looting afro american assaulting cops tbh.
Work on your attitude please.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,346
Immigration is a tricky thing. You need to get them civically integrated.
Sweden, allows just about anything. They are also the second rape capitol of the world, after a village in south africa.


Integration, is so important. I recall a hilarious thing happening last year at a bachelors "RMP" (religion, meaning, philisophy) class. The classgroup consisted of third year students in professional bachelor chemistry and medical chemistry, so its usually around 50% girls.

In the class, was a Moroccan Berber, the least well integrated community in Belgium (sadly). Somewhere they touched a topic about "cheating". He took the word and said that cheating way okay for a male cause a women can deceive them, but any women that cheats should be stoned. In a class with 50% western girls (who are quite vocal).

Yeah, that apparently was fun

First of all Sweden is not the capital of anything. It's a country. I did find sources that referred to Sweden as the rape capital of Europe. Which speaks volumes. None of those sources are worth shit.

Furthermore I highly doubt that Sweden ranks that high when you have the friggin' Congo.

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"Believe this doofus". thats nice


This news has been all over europe. Even in Belgian media. Its a bit hard to find something objective. Right extremist groups will pull the "its the muslims" agenda, and leftist will pull the "its swedish males who want to punish women for wanting to be equal". Both are obviously rediculous.

Thing is, the rate of convicted rape crimes, is very high. And it correlates with their unbridled immigration policy.

Several times, in rather objective media, this swedish example is used to note that the most important part of immigration, is integration.


Now i'm awaiting what Nzoric is going to come up with. You know, he's a constructive guy.


You are just someone who feels immediatly offended by fucking everything, and will attack whoever says it. A bit like a looting afro american assaulting cops tbh.
Work on your attitude please.
Sweden doesn't have "an unbridled immigration policy". No country does.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
18,943
Official rape statistics do not allow at all for any comparisons between countries.

While this is true for most crimes, it is especially true for sexual assaults, as the legal definitions, social attitudes & rate of incidents reported vary so incredibly much.

And to somehow link this supposed high rate of rape incidents to immigration is even more ridiculous.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,346
Official rape statistics do not allow at all for any comparisons between countries.

While this is true for most crimes, it is especially true for sexual assaults, as the legal definitions, social attitudes & rate of incidents reported vary so incredibly much.

And to somehow link this supposed high rate of rape incidents to immigration is even more ridiculous.

The best part of it all is that Belgium has had several high profile cases involving serial rapists all of which were born and bred in Belgium.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,502
"Believe this doofus". thats nice


This news has been all over europe. Even in Belgian media. Its a bit hard to find something objective. Right extremist groups will pull the "its the muslims" agenda, and leftist will pull the "its swedish males who want to punish women for wanting to be equal". Both are obviously rediculous.

Thing is, the rate of convicted rape crimes, is very high. And it correlates with their unbridled immigration policy.

Several times, in rather objective media, this swedish example is used to note that the most important part of immigration, is integration.


Now i'm awaiting what Nzoric is going to come up with. You know, he's a constructive guy.


You are just someone who feels immediatly offended by fucking everything, and will attack whoever says it. A bit like a looting afro american assaulting cops tbh.
Work on your attitude please.
Is this constructive enough for you? You are an utterly ignorant buffoon who knows nothing and acts like you speak the gospel.


I LIVE here, our rape stats is nothing but that, stats done wrong, get it through your thick skull. I litterally talked to old school mate who is an attorney who jokes about this regurarly, of how his overseas collegues give him lip and banter over this redundant stat that is not taken seriously anywhere except shitty agenda driven sources you seem to swallow (the extreme right wing kind that blame it all on the immigrants? No wonder you buy it). You know who tried to spew this type of BS? Our third biggiest party that is a racist one, they tried to corrolate our immigration with rapes, and where shown by every expert and official sources its far far from the case.


Your agenda with immigration and knowledge about Sweden is worth less then nothing with every new post you make.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
The best part of it all is that Belgium has had several high profile cases involving serial child rapists all of which were born and bred in Belgium.
fixed it for you

Agree btw. i've done a calculation a while ago, that the percentage of 'muslim extremists' amongst the global muslim community, is actually half of the percentage of convicted pedophiles in belgium. Convicted as in doing jail time right now.

Disturbing tbh.

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Is this constructive enough for you? You are an utterly ignorant buffoon who knows nothing and acts like you speak the gospel.


I LIVE here, our rape stats is nothing but that, stats done wrong, get it through your thick skull. I litterally talked to old school mate who is an attorney who jokes about this regurarly, of how his overseas collegues give him lip and banter over this redundant stat that is not taken seriously anywhere except shitty agenda driven sources you seem to swallow (the extreme right wing kind that blame it all on the immigrants? No wonder you buy it). You know who tried to spew this type of BS? Our third biggiest party that is a racist one, they tried to corrolate our immigration with rapes, and where shown by every expert and official sources its far far from the case.


Your agenda with immigration and knowledge about Sweden is worth less then nothing with every new post you make.
I have no agenda, angry man. I'm trying to see this trough a neutral pov, and it has been in the media everywere in europe. And i think you , angry man, have seen that i said that the claim "its the muslims" is rediculous.
Having said that, i maintain that proper civic integration is extremely important.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
First of all Sweden is not the capital of anything. It's a country. I did find sources that referred to Sweden as the rape capital of Europe. Which speaks volumes. None of those sources are worth shit.

Furthermore I highly doubt that Sweden ranks that high when you have the friggin' Congo..
In my first post about the matter, i've spoken about the problematic regions in the world about that.
Congo is one of those "parts of africa". I think they rank pretty high on that "sexual cleansing myth" rank. Not far off south africa

But since you talk about Congo, i'll give you this. Its a massive issue there, we agree ? What if such males come here, Illegally or not, without an integration plan, and set loose ?



Its hilarious how i get shot here. The only point i'm making, is that several parts of the world have disgusting crime against women flowing freely, that there is not a problem with immigration, but that you have to do proper integration. Belgium is a class example of how integration of certain groups went desperatly wrong.

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so say in saudi arabia rape complaints are low does that mean rape doesnt happen there much?
Is there a country lower on the female rights list, then saudi arabia ?
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
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So in short rape stats are skewed because some countries class things like groping or non-penetrative assaults as rape yet some others don't?

Then of course there is the issue of non-recording, incorrectly recording, bribery, threats, culture etc.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,346
Is this constructive enough for you? You are an utterly ignorant buffoon who knows nothing and acts like you speak the gospel.


I LIVE here, our rape stats is nothing but that, stats done wrong, get it through your thick skull. I litterally talked to old school mate who is an attorney who jokes about this regurarly, of how his overseas collegues give him lip and banter over this redundant stat that is not taken seriously anywhere except shitty agenda driven sources you seem to swallow (the extreme right wing kind that blame it all on the immigrants? No wonder you buy it). You know who tried to spew this type of BS? Our third biggiest party that is a racist one, they tried to corrolate our immigration with rapes, and where shown by every expert and official sources its far far from the case.


Your agenda with immigration and knowledge about Sweden is worth less then nothing with every new post you make.
Dude, relax, it's Zach :D.


fixed it for you

Agree btw. i've done a calculation a while ago, that the percentage of 'muslim extremists' amongst the global muslim community, is actually half of the percentage of convicted pedophiles in belgium. Convicted as in doing jail time right now.

Disturbing tbh.

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I have no agenda, angry man. I'm trying to see this trough a neutral pov, and it has been in the media everywere in europe. And i think you , angry man, have seen that i said that the claim "its the muslims" is rediculous.
Having said that, i maintain that proper civic integration is extremely important.

Dude.

As for that last part, what exactly is integration?
 

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