News that makes you say WTF! (19 Viewers)

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And thought he was reaching for his Elmo doll.

 

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[Seven]

So when's the mock trial?

 

[Hust]

I'm not saying no one is at fault. Clearly people were irresponsible. But if there hadn't been a gun, the kid would have been alive. I am getting quite sick and tired of a big portion of the American people blatantly disregarding obvious truths.

Isn't it bad enough that you have a two party system in which the next president is always going to be a Democrat, simply because she's the one running for a party that doesn't require you to be insane?

It sounded like she was a single mother with 3 kids in a bad part of town. She was completely irresponsible for leaving a damn gun out with children around and even dumber for leaving the children unattended WHILE having a gun out.

If you are getting sick and tired of the American people living our own lives then I guess its probably a good thing you don't live here?

 

[lgorTudor]

I'm not saying no one is at fault. Clearly people were irresponsible. But if there hadn't been a gun, the kid would have been alive. I am getting quite sick and tired of a big portion of the American people blatantly disregarding obvious truths.

that's the point when Americans tend to say: "Are you also going to forbid kitchen knives? Kids can use them as weapons, too."

 

[Hust]

that's the point when Americans tend to say: "Are you also going to forbid kitchen knives? Kids can use them as weapons, too."

Is it?

 

[Seven]

It sounded like she was a single mother with 3 kids in a bad part of town. She was completely irresponsible for leaving a damn gun out with children around and even dumber for leaving the children unattended WHILE having a gun out.

If you are getting sick and tired of the American people living our own lives then I guess its probably a good thing you don't live here?

Yeah, but you're not, are you? In fact, the USA have probably invaded more countries than the rest of the world combined in the past 20 years. And on a personal level, the American government has been reading my e-mails and checking my whereabouts for years.

So fuck that shit. You're not just living your lives. American stupidity affects us all. And it needs to change. Now.

 

[Hust]

Yeah, but you're not, are you? In fact, the USA have probably invaded more countries than the rest of the world combined in the past 20 years. And on a personal level, the American government has been reading my e-mails and checking my whereabouts for years.

So fuck that shit. You're not just living your lives. American stupidity affects us all. And it needs to change. Now.

I'm living my own life, yes.

 

[Enron]

I'm living my own life, yes.

Ignorance is bliss?

 

[Osman]

Yeah, but you're not, are you? In fact, the USA have probably invaded more countries than the rest of the world combined in the past 20 years. And on a personal level, the American government has been reading my e-mails and checking my whereabouts for years.

So fuck that shit. You're not just living your lives. American stupidity affects us all. And it needs to change. Now.

 

[Hust]

Ignorance is bliss?

Indeed.

Do you find it strange that people that are against government "snooping" are pro big government?

 

[Ocelot]

Indeed.

Do you find it strange that people that are against government "snooping" are pro big government?

No, it's rather telling though.

 

[Hust]

No, it's rather telling though.

Elaborate, bitte.

 

[Ocelot]

Elaborate, bitte.

It's not that surprising when you look at the arguements used in both cases. One of the most popular arguments against state intervention in social or economic matters, is that everyone should be responsible for themselves. The probably most common argument for PRISM & the likes is that if one has nothing to hid, he's got nothing to fear. Both are based on a very individual outlook on the world in general.

Besides, it's a general pattern that those in favor of "big government" usually are opposed to an increase in military activity, investment in the police force, harsher justice systems, etc.

 

[Enron]

Indeed.

Do you find it strange that people that are against government "snooping" are pro big government?

Or people that are against big government are pro regulating what people on welfare buy. Or people that are against big government are pro spying. Yeah, it can be confusing at times. Not strange though, double speak in politics is nothing new.

 

[Hust]

It's not that surprising when you look at the arguements used in both cases. One of the most popular arguments against state intervention in social or economic matters, is that everyone should be responsible for themselves. The probably most common argument for PRISM & the likes is that if one has nothing to hid, he's got nothing to fear. Both are based on a very individual outlook on the world in general.

Besides, it's a general pattern that those in favor of "big government" usually are opposed to an increase in military activity and the likes.

The cyber world isn't going to stop anytime soon, its going to get worse. We will see more cyber attacks as a kind of warfare than the kind of warfare the world blames the US for. Anyone can attack anyone at anytime, literally, its as easy as finding out how online and giving yourself the time to teach yourself.

Here, and by the sound of many posting on Tuz, anyone pro-government is left of center. Ironically, those blaming the government for eavsdropping/spy are completely fine with the government telling them everything else they can/can't do: healthcare, school, careers, mandatory military time, etc.

Big obtrusive government but shame on you for spying.

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Or people that are against big government are pro regulating what people on welfare buy. Or people that are against big government are pro spying. Yeah, it can be confusing at times. Not strange though, double speak in politics is nothing new.

Double speak. Good way to put it.

 

[Ocelot]

Or people that are against big government are pro regulating what people on welfare buy. Or people that are against big government are pro spying. Yeah, it can be confusing at times. Not strange though, double speak in politics is nothing new.

It's not that much of a dissonance in most cases though. Political beliefs are just a lot more complicated than a simple left-right scale. http://forum.juventuz.org/threads/35102-The-Political-Compass This scale for example is already a lot better, though still simplifying of course.

 

[Hust]

It's not that much of a dissonance in most cases though. Political beliefs are just a lot more complicated than a simple left-right scale. http://forum.juventuz.org/threads/35102-The-Political-Compass This scale for example is already a lot better, though still simplifying of course.

I haven't seen this on here before.

 

[Seven]

Indeed.

Do you find it strange that people that are against government "snooping" are pro big government?

Wow. Just wow. I always forget just how bad it is.

 

[Hust]

Wow. Just wow. I always forget just how bad it is.

Write it down.

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http://www.infowars.com/hillary-vows-to-protect-americans-from-the-1-while-being-funded-by-the-1/

Double speak @Enron?

 

[Enron]

It's not that much of a dissonance in most cases though. Political beliefs are just a lot more complicated than a simple left-right scale. http://forum.juventuz.org/threads/35102-The-Political-Compass This scale for example is already a lot better, though still simplifying of course.

You don't say.

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Write it down.

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http://www.infowars.com/hillary-vows-to-protect-americans-from-the-1-while-being-funded-by-the-1/

Double speak @Enron?

Yeah, too bad all the other major candidates do the same thing. It's a shame there's never a "none of the above" option on the ballot. I will probably not vote for President this election cycle.