New Juve scandal: Moggi talking to referees (7 Viewers)

Mozart

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Feb 3, 2006
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Conversation between Moggi and Paco Casal, Fabian Carini's agent.

Moggi: "Branca called Cannavaro and he's told him that he'll never that he'll never give him to Juve. Cannavaro told him to f uck off and that he was going to talk to the President, not to him."

Casal: "We need to push it. If Cannavaro calls Ghelfi and tells him 'Look Dr I'm not staying here because I'm not going to play and the coach won't consider me important enough'.

Casal: "Look we should do this today."

Moggi: "Ok then. Make him call Ghelfi and tell him he wants to leave. And get him to call that tall muppet too, what's his name... the president... Facchetti!"

I love you moggi...:lol: :rofl2: :rofl2: :touched:
 

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marcusa

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Dec 21, 2005
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I was watching Italian tv today and they showed several instances in the milan-roma match where the ref missed fouls and penalties that should have gone roma's way...maybe he was being paid?? berlusconi should start looking at his own team before demanding championships from juve
 

Mark

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Dec 19, 2003
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CLAMOROSO: Giulio Mola rivela l'incontro con Luciano Moggi

SetteGold ha offerto una grande esclusiva ai propri spettatori questa sera. Il redattore di Qn, Giulio Mola, ha avuto modo di incontrare in privato Luciano Moggi, nel pieno dello scandalo intercettazioni e quando vigeva il più stretto silenzio stampa. I particolari che emergono hanno del clamoroso. Ve ne rendiamo partecipi. "Erano 3-4 giorni che tentavo di entrare in contatto con Moggi - riferisce Mola a "DirettaStadio" - Poi, d'accordo con il giornale, sono andato in sede a Torino lunedì scorso, il giorno dopo le parole di John Elkann che prendeva le distanze dalla dirigenza. Ho aspettato un'ora e mezzo in anticamera prima di essere ricevuto. Ho trovato una persona senza sorriso, ma disposta a guardarti negli occhi. Mi ha colpito una sua frase: "Meglio essere rinviati a giudizio piuttosto che essere sputtanati in pubblico". Ha ripetuto più volte: "E'un'imboscata". E, a metà conversazione, un "Maledetto il giorno che sono andato da Berlusconi" (a Palazzo Grazioli in settembre), evidentemente quella visita, servita a parlare di politica e di calcio (ingaggio di Moggi in rossonero) ha scatenato gelosie in qualcuno. Se Moggi ha usato il termine imboscata, si riferisce evidentemente ad un nemico. Moggi non ha però negato le proprie responsabilità. Quando gli ho chiesto cosa volesse fare, mi ha risposto che "Qui a Torino non devi combattere solo contro le altre squadre, ma contro tutti", come se mi avesse già anticipato le sue dimissioni. Ho visto un Moggi distrutto, una persona preoccupata ancor prima che per se stesso per il figlio Alessandro". Giulio Mola, aggiungendo altro pepe al piatto già piccantissimo, ha offerto ulteriori spunti chiarificatori sulla vicenda: "Bisogna ricordare come i rapporti tra Carraro e Mazzini fossero pessimi (Mazzini era molto vicino all'ex DG juventino) con la definizione data al presidente dimissionario di "Vecchia Cariatide", e al contempo gli stretti rapporti tra il Milan e Collina, con una promessa a Collina da parte di Galliani di un risarcimento (come per esempio un ruolo dirigenziale) nel caso in cui avesse lasciato la carriera arbitrale. Questo scenario spunta dalle intercettazioni".

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It's an ambush...damn the day I met with Berlusconi(September meeting at Palazzo Grazioli). Evidently this meeting was to talk about politics and football(Moggi to Milan) and triggered some jelousy in somebody(Galliani?). Moggi doesn't deny that he made some mistakes.


.... in some of the conversations heard over the phone you know that there was a close friendship between Milan and Collina. Galliani promised him a little compensation( for example a managerial role).
 

Fight Club

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Dec 14, 2005
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haha i don't know if this has been posted earlier, but i have just read that moggi locked a ref up in a lockerroom after a game last season, and just went to the airport. good prank there moggi
 

tassard

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Jul 30, 2004
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Fight Club said:
haha i don't know if this has been posted earlier, but i have just read that moggi locked a ref up in a lockerroom after a game last season, and just went to the airport. good prank there moggi

Yeah what a great thing he did.Why didn't he shot him with a shotgun?That would be better.:disagree: :tdown:
 

adelove

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Sep 29, 2003
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If we can emerge from all of this without too much damage,we will become invincible.Imagine the players and the coach taking all this negative energy and turning it into fuel for the fire against our opponents?It wiil be awesome,we just hve to emerge from all of this realtively unscathed
 

ZAF3000

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Feb 14, 2005
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Fight Club said:
haha i don't know if this has been posted earlier, but i have just read that moggi locked a ref up in a lockerroom after a game last season, and just went to the airport. good prank there moggi
Yeh, so he (the ref claims)
It was Papresta after Reggina V Juve match last season when he failed to count two legal goals for Juve. After the match Moggi was very angry he went to him shouting and saying do you call these ref calls.. So papresta left him and entered a room (office or locker-room) so Moggi locked him inside.
It is said that Papresta did not say this before because he was afraid that Moggi will find away to make him quit being a ref.
 

Mark

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ZAF3000 said:
Yeh, so he (the ref claims)
It was Papresta after Reggina V Juve match last season when he failed to count two legal goals for Juve. After the match Moggi was very angry he went to him shouting and saying do you call these ref calls.. So papresta left him and entered a room (office or locker-room) so Moggi locked him inside.
It is said that Papresta did not say this before because he was afraid that Moggi will find away to make him quit being a ref.
the backup ref for today's game was...Paparesta.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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mark77 said:
watch for tomorrow when Moggi tells all...
I think this is where the whole situation will change. He might have no mercy and bring everyone with him, by everyone I mean A LOT!! We might not hear what he said as they might not want the outcome.
 

Mark

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Matteo.. said:
As you no doubt know more than most of us, what's your take on this one? Will we survive or will we taste the venom of Serie B?
We all know that "they" want us to go down to serie B and get our last 2 scudetti revoked. What will happen? I don't know. If Moggi tells all tomorrow or in the coming days he will bring down all the other Big guys with him. We could see 2-3 teams go to serie B. The question is: Can the serie A survive without these teams?
We could see some point deductions for next year and a ban from football for life for Moggi and cie. It's true that there's a lot of pressure from the outside to get us relegated though.
 

Matteo..

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Apr 30, 2006
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mark77 said:
We all know that "they" want us to go down to serie B and get our last 2 scudetti revoked. What will happen? I don't know. If Moggi tells all tomorrow or in the coming days he will bring down all the other Big guys with him. We could see 2-3 teams go to serie B. The question is: Can the serie A survive without these teams?
We could see some point deductions for next year and a ban from football for life for Moggi and cie. It's true that there's a lot of pressure from the outside to get us relegated though.
I've read Juve is quite likely to go down though. Teams such as Lazio and Fiorentina also seem to be involved, but so far are still in a much better position than Juventus. I'm starting to feel we could be a scapegoat.
 

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