New Juve scandal: Moggi talking to referees (16 Viewers)

isha00 · May 9, 2006

Ah, I forgot, Uefa archived the case too.

isha00 · May 9, 2006

isha00 said:

I found one

ReBeL · May 9, 2006

Great effort, isha in this thread...

Thanks...

ReBeL · May 9, 2006

Wiretapped soccer referees counterattack

ROME, May 9 (UPI) -- Massimo De Santis, considered Italy's top soccer referee, Tuesday defended himself against accusations of allegedly fixing games through referee selection.

It was disclosed last week that prosecutors in Naples and Rome had tapped the telephone conversations of a number of referees, as part of criminal probes into sporting fraud, the Italian news agency Ansa reported.

Wiretaps of conversations between Juventus General Manager Luciano Moggi and an official in charge of appointing referees were published, causing public outrage.

In recorded conversations, Moggi asks Pier Luigi Pairetto to name "good" refs for three pre-season friendlies and chats with him about the refs assigned to two Champions League matches.

De Santis admitted making some mistakes, but nothing illegal.

"I and all of my colleagues are willing to cooperate with both ordinary justice and sporting justice, because we have nothing to hide," De Sanis said.

The conversations that sparked the scandal were recorded by Turin prosecutors as part of a doping invesitgation before and after the start of the 2004-5 season, which Juve won.

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060509-045734-6285r

ZAF3000 · May 9, 2006

ReBeL said:

PRESEASON MATCHES which he has to arrange from a to z including refs. It is HIS JOB..Oh my god this is really stupid..

Matteo.. · May 9, 2006

Perhaps the word "rumor" should be left out of the title

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ZAF3000 · May 9, 2006

If this conversation is what the case is all about then this has to be the stupidist case in history.. Fuck them they are all jelous.

Cronios · May 9, 2006

ReBeL said:

indeed thanx twice

int:

The Arif · May 10, 2006

Giraudo's Statement: A Full Transcript

In the interests of impartial and balanced reporting, Goal.com publishes below a direct transcript of the statement made by Juventus director Antonio Giraudo at his press conference at the Delle Alpi last Friday:
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“Once again Juventus and its directors find themselves under the spotlight in a media case without precedent in football. I’ve read in the papers this morning that our silence is borne out of fear. Nothing could be further from the truth. In order to respond to what I’ve read in the papers in the last few days it would be proper on your part to note that in the most intense period of the hearing the Prosecuting Magistrate of Turin placed wire taps on our telephones, the content of which – probably favourable to the defence – was never made available to our legal team and wasn’t included in the appeal that we have recently celebrated, but above all that the transcripts of those taps were distributed to the papers before those whom they concerned and their legal teams, almost a year on and with the end of the league in sight.

“Juventus responds today to what we have learnt exclusively in the press in the last few days because only today have we received part of the documents. It’s incredible that possible violations of the fundamental rights of the citizen are, in our country, so devoid of interest that nobody even cares about them. The appearance of which, on the contrary, we will take up with the appropriate authority.

“The investigation by the Prosecuting Magistrate of Turin was concluded last summer after months of documental scrutiny and intercepted phone-calls, as well as interviews conducted with certain members of the club and others.

"Yesterday we submitted a request for all of the records and this is the statement that accompanied the end of the inquest. It is dated 29th September.

“Seeing that the recurrent words in the press yesterday and today have been ‘ethics’ and ‘moral’, I ask that the following behaviour be judged in the same way: we have read in the papers accusations, insinuations, defamatory comments and judgements about an investigation of which we were never informed. Is that correct? Is it ethical? Is it fair or unfair?

“Two aspects are involved: one judicial and one sporting. With reference to the first, Marcello Maddalena, a rigorous and strict magistrate who is the Chief Prosecutor of Turin, requested that the case be dropped on the grounds that after objective analysis of the documentation, not only is there nothing to confirm the initial grounds for investigation, but on the contrary one can confirm that there is evidence to suggest the opposite,
indicating an absence of irregularity and of any steering of the refereeing selection process by Pairetto. In his conclusion, moreover, he confirmed in writing that, after all the assessments had been carried out, there wasn’t
even “the faintest hint” of anything that would lead to a continuation of the inquiry. This is the truth that emerges from the Prosecution’s documents.

“I believe that it’s fundamental that every citizen is respected. We weren’t given any respect in the seven long years of the trial, during which we were subjected to the most defamatory accusations from stadiums around the world, and neither are we today following an investigation that has been dropped and closed for months, and proved us to be completely clean.

“With regard to the second aspect, that of the sporting justice, we will wait for it to take its own course, but we are confident and know that the verdict will arrive in good time.

“The quotations that were taken from interviews and telephone conversations by Luciano Moggi, General Manager of Juventus, paint a distorted picture based in partial reality, creating a series of accusations with the sole intention of discrediting and damaging the name, history, achievements and image of Juventus. This management, of which Moggi is a fundamental pillar, have won a great deal, have sparked a huge amount of envy and have demonstrated that it is possible to combine economic efficiency with competitive sport. To supply to the papers a distorted and partial picture of what emerged from the documents of the Prosecution constitutes the umpteenth attempt to discredit the refereeing profession which doesn’t deserve this treatment and to bring into disrepute the legitimate pride of Juventus football club for the victories achieved by their team on the field. To extract pieces of a conversation and present them as indicative of our entire management represents an intellectually dishonest act and one that we will fight against”.

http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoId=48520

isha00 · May 10, 2006

You're all welcome for my effort, it's a pleasure. Being informed is our weapon against those animals.

ReBeL said:

Yeah, "good" refs is all he ever asked. "Good", not biased. Good as in "able to do their job".

Roma > Juve · May 10, 2006

Why is the title of this thread "New anti-Juve RUMOR ..." ---- this is not a rumor ... you are just too ignorant to see that Moggi did pay the refs ...

P.S. --- enjoy life in Serie C2 ... :oops:

Muha · May 10, 2006

hey dude.. are you lookin for a ban or what ???

isha00 · May 10, 2006

Roma > Juve said:

If you managed to avoid it, I don't see why we should be worried. :disagree:

Muha · May 10, 2006

ZhiXin · May 10, 2006

isha00 said:

Can u provide me more info about how is the case going ?

Roma > Juve · May 10, 2006

Muha said:

No, I said nothing wrong at all ... Juve is a team in Serie A, and should be punished like everyother team in Serie A. Genoa had to go down after their scandal ... so why should the FIGC give special privilages to Juve?

Anyway, your little management trident will split up at the end of the season ... maybe you would like to get Rosella Sensi????

isha00 · May 10, 2006

Roma > Juve said:

Like Roma was punished for its bankruptcy? Or for having given to refs and Figc managers Rolex? It surely was useful: in 2001 they changed the rules during the championship to let you use some more non comunitarian players, just before the big-match against us. And so Rometta won the scudetto! You should be proud :touched:

Btw, there is no proof for Moggi, while Preziosi was found with a bag with hundreds of thousands €. At least inform yourself, you know, to avoid some bad figures...

Roma > Juve · May 10, 2006

isha00 said:

Btw, there is no proof for Moggi...QUOTE]

No proof?? Then what do you call those offside goals scored by Juve?? That fake, non-excistant pk against Parma whcih would have surely closed the season if Del Piero had not missed it. What do you think of all this? Coincidence?? -- thats the most common Juve response.

And Carraro resigning?? --- thanks to Moggi again.

Not to mention how your pathetic defenders tried to break Totti's legs during the Coppa Italia ... but that is not really proof, after all, with the amount of talent Juve's defenders have, it is difficult to tackle Totti properly ...

Listen, most of my family are Juventini ... and even they know that Juve is in some real *&^ now. Dont try acting all hopeful ... you guys will be punished.

Azzurri7 · May 10, 2006

It's alright guys, Whether we'll be going to Serie C1 or Serie Z8, nothing is gonna change, after-all Marcelo Zalayeta has more Scudetto than Roma.

Maher · May 10, 2006

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