New Juve coach: Part Deux (30 Viewers)

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s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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I don’t get the Sarri hate on here. His teams play good attacking football, and he hasn’t had a squad nearly as good as ours, with as much depth as well.

Inzaghi hate is also unjustified, he’s been doing pretty well with limited resources at Lazio, making players like immobile and Luis Alberto look better than they actually are.

Both these guys aren’t my first or second or even third choices, but they’re not nearly as bad as people are making them sound in my opinion
agreed about the unwarranted inzaghi hate. but sarri playing good attacking football is an unfounded argument. we could see three sarri teams lately: empoli, napoli and chelsea.
- his empoli team was a relatively well defending team, with high possession and a lot of passes, but one of the less open play goals that season, and low shot count. a typical italian mid-table team with good organization and a lot of short passes, but not attacking at all. sarri did well with them by securing serie a for that newcomer team, he deserves credit for it, but they stayed up with their organization, not with their attack.
- napoli has been an attacking minded team even under mazzarri and benítez, sarri only fine tuned that team and put jorginho in the center of their gameplay. if you look at napoli's squad, you can't even defend with those players. imagine any coach playing defensive game with players like mertens, insigne, hamsik, callejon and co.
- and this chelsea. fucking hell, what a boring team that is. their only player with any intuition and actual creativity is hazard. i have completely different ideas about good attacking football. juve under lippi in the late '90s or bayern '12-13 was good attacking football. i even enjoyed that shakhtar we were in the same cl group with in '12. gasp's atalanta is fun too. sarri's chelsea isn't good attacking football at all.
 
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Honestly I refuse to believe it's going to be Sarri. With the direction this club's heading, the global brand etc. There isn't a more ill-suited coach than Sarri for us. I am sure AA realizes this so it is just extremely hard to believe that they would settle for him, or any "non-big" name for that matter. There is a clear reason we haven't appointed a coach yet, despite being a public company. I am expecting a big name, and I know its very hard (I've been looking online and refreshing this page at least every hour), but we just have to be a little bit more patient.
 

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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Honestly I refuse to believe it's going to be Sarri. With the direction this club's heading, the global brand etc. There isn't a more ill-suited coach than Sarri for us. I am sure AA realizes this so it is just extremely hard to believe that they would settle for him, or any "non-big" name for that matter. There is a clear reason we haven't appointed a coach yet, despite being a public company. I am expecting a big name, and I know its very hard (I've been looking online and refreshing this page at least every hour), but we just have to be a little bit more patient.
for me it's either Guardiola or someone like Inzaghi.
If we can't get Pep this summer we will do it in 2020.
So appoint a cheap manager and see what's about it and wait for Pep
 

dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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I don’t get the Sarri hate on here. His teams play good attacking football, and he hasn’t had a squad nearly as good as ours, with as much depth as well.

Inzaghi hate is also unjustified, he’s been doing pretty well with limited resources at Lazio, making players like immobile and Luis Alberto look better than they actually are.

Both these guys aren’t my first or second or even third choices, but they’re not nearly as bad as people are making them sound in my opinion
Good post. Both Inzaghi and Sarri are good coaches in their own right. Inzaghi to inexperienced for my liking, and Sarri had his obvious weaknesses to, but good coaches non the less. If the management choose to go with one of them, they must be convinced it is the right thing to do, so maybe we should wait a few games into the season before the meltdown.
Afterall Allegri was a considered a mediocre coach, when he came in and that turned out allright. Conte was completly inexperienced at the top level, and that turned out allright as well.
Still hoping for Poch or the odd chance that there is actually something in the Pep rumours though.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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Honestly I refuse to believe it's going to be Sarri. With the direction this club's heading, the global brand etc. There isn't a more ill-suited coach than Sarri for us. I am sure AA realizes this so it is just extremely hard to believe that they would settle for him, or any "non-big" name for that matter. There is a clear reason we haven't appointed a coach yet, despite being a public company. I am expecting a big name, and I know its very hard (I've been looking online and refreshing this page at least every hour), but we just have to be a little bit more patient.
I wouldn't expect much for at least another week, till then it'll just be links with sarri then BOOM!
 

Barese

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May 9, 2019
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agreed about the unwarranted inzaghi hate. but sarri playing good attacking football is an unfounded argument. we could see three sarri teams lately: empoli, napoli and chelsea.
- his empoli team was a relatively well defending team, with high possession and a lot of passes, but one of the less open play goals that season, and low shot count. a typical italian mid-table team with good organization and a lot of short passes, but not attacking at all. sarri did well with them by securing serie a for that newcomer team, he deserves credit for it, but they stayed up with their organization, not with their attack.
- napoli has been an attacking minded team even under mazzarri and benítez, sarri only fine tuned that team and put jorginho in the center of their gameplay. if you look at napoli's squad, you can't even defend with those players. imagine any coach playing defensive game with players like mertens, insigne, hamsik, callejon and co.
- and this chelsea. fucking hell, what a boring team that is. their only player with any intuition and actual creativity is hazard. i have completely different ideas about good attacking football. juve under lippi in the late '90s or bayern '12-13 was good attacking football. i even enjoyed that shakhtar we were in the same cl group with in '12. gasp's atalanta is fun too. sarri's chelsea isn't good attacking football at all.
Don't agree on the Napoli part. You name 3 attackers (and Hamsik) then say its impossible to defend with those players. Their defence has always been really weak except for Koulibaly. In my opinion he got the most out of Napoli, you can see Ancelotti's team nowadays still profiting from the gameplay implemented by Sarri. Napoli is mediocre.
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
7,339
I don’t get the Sarri hate on here. His teams play good attacking football, and he hasn’t had a squad nearly as good as ours, with as much depth as well.

Inzaghi hate is also unjustified, he’s been doing pretty well with limited resources at Lazio, making players like immobile and Luis Alberto look better than they actually are.

Both these guys aren’t my first or second or even third choices, but they’re not nearly as bad as people are making them sound in my opinion
I hope we sign Inzaghi just to see the misplaced, ill-conceived meltdown.
 

khalidkassim

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Feb 2, 2007
616
Probably so players wouldn't jump ship. Pjanic and Dybala would have had to be sold immediately if Allegri stayed on.

However, it doesn't make sense to have a stop gap year with Ronaldo getting older each year.
 
Jun 6, 2015
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Probably so players wouldn't jump ship. Pjanic and Dybala would have had to be sold immediately if Allegri stayed on.

However, it doesn't make sense to have a stop gap year with Ronaldo getting older each year.
I get that there might be some truth in the Dybala part but why would have Pjanic left? He has been one of Allegri's favorite players here.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
33,626
Don't agree on the Napoli part. You name 3 attackers (and Hamsik) then say its impossible to defend with those players. Their defence has always been really weak except for Koulibaly. In my opinion he got the most out of Napoli, you can see Ancelotti's team nowadays still profiting from the gameplay implemented by Sarri. Napoli is mediocre.
i mean it would be completely stupid to play defensive football with those players. sarri adapted to the squad at his disposal during his 3 latest spells, that's the way i see him. also, he was pretty lucky with the timing napoli hired him: they had a very strong squad build for attacking footie that played together for a relatively long time. also, he spent 3 seasons at napoli, and were outscored by both lazio (!!!) and juve in '18, and by roma in '16. his best season came when he could finally fix the defense in his 3rd season.

and of course he didn't get out the most of napoli: they didn't win a single cup, they were 3rd behind an inferior roma team in '17, they lost or drew to countless inferior teams in europe, and above all, they lost to fiorentina 3-0 when it mattered the most. his best achievement was replacing the injured milik with mertens and not losing anything in attack, kudos for that, otherwise, they still choked a lot. it's buried deep in the napoli football dna i guess, so it's not all on sarri obviously.

anyway, sarri is a good coach, like most of these guys we're linked with, but 1. he's not a winner at all 2. he's not the attacking minded, all flair and fancy type of coach some posters here like him to describe, he's not an italian heynckes in any way 3. his southern, bigot, classless personality doesn't match juve at all.

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I get that there might be some truth in the Dybala part but why would have Pjanic left? He has been one of Allegri's favorite players here.
pjanic is probably tempted by offers from real madrid or psg. he's 29, this might be his last chance to have an elite contract at a top team, and he might just need some new motivation, too.

personally i'd keep him, he's one of my favorite players from the current squad, but both juve and pjanic might have legit reasons to move on from this relationship.
 
Jun 6, 2015
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pjanic is probably tempted by offers from real madrid or psg. he's 29, this might be his last chance to have an elite contract at a top team, and he might just need some new motivation, too.

personally i'd keep him, he's one of my favorite players from the current squad, but both juve and pjanic might have legit reasons to move on from this relationship.
Sure, but that has nothing to do with Allegri staying or going.
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
6,390
So could today oficially be the PepOFF statements day or just more of the silence before the storm going on?

All this Sarri and Inzaghi talk going on here(aswell as on every other social media/news platform out there) really getting my mood regarding this whole situation to a new low ffs... simply put, at this very moment, none of them are genuinly up to the standard of what today’s Juventus represents.

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However, overall, i guess considering all the other ‘Serie A’ related potential candidates, Simone Inzaghi wouldn’t be half as bad of a choice as the rest
 
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