New CB in January? (19 Viewers)

New CB in January?

  • Branistlav Ivanovic

  • Diego Lugano

  • Tomas Ujfalusi

  • Cristian Zapata

  • Walter Samuel

  • Fernando Meira

  • Ezequiel Garay

  • John Heitinga

  • Pablo Ibanez

  • Rafael Marquez

  • Per Mertesacker

  • Andrea Barzagli

  • Marko Basa

  • Radoslav Kovac

  • Cris

  • Alex

  • Phlippe Senderos

  • Luis Amaranto Perea

  • Lucio

  • Manuel Da Costa

  • Luisao


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Firestarter

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Jul 15, 2006
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Ranieri didn't want him. He was a Juve player and Claudio rejected him so we won't see him in a Juve jersey soon. He didn't play like that vs Juve because he signed a pre-contract with us. He just plained sucked. With Italy he plays real good. Maybe it's because he has a leader next to him and doesn't have to do everything in defense for Palermo. I'll pass.
Exactly, Ranieri rejected the chance to sign him before so why would pay more now for to sign him.
 

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Thunderball

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May 4, 2007
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Exactly, Ranieri rejected the chance to sign him before so why would pay more now for to sign him.
Of course, at the time, he had just signed Andrade, had high hopes on Criscito and thought Chiellini and Grygera were going to round out his top 4. Legrottaglie was his last choice defender. What a difference 3 months can make, especially when Barzagli had some high-profile strong performances.

Suddenly, the thought may have became... hmm... maybe he's not a bad idea.

I still think a wingback is top priority, but Barzagli is far from a bad decision.
 

MadballJuve

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Oct 8, 2007
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Ranieri didn't want him. He was a Juve player and Claudio rejected him so we won't see him in a Juve jersey soon. He didn't play like that vs Juve because he signed a pre-contract with us. He just plained sucked. With Italy he plays real good. Maybe it's because he has a leader next to him and doesn't have to do everything in defense for Palermo. I'll pass.
I was only joking.

Barzagli doesn't like playing for Palermo anymore considering the revolting fans. I still hope he comes to Juve, it's a great player! But Nicola and Giorgio are doing very well at the moment. If Andrade can return to his best form, we just maybe need one other CB for competing in the Serie A and CL next season (Considering the fact that Criscito will go on a loan-spell if he still weights like a 5-year-old. I believe Ibra's nose had more muscle and bones than Domenico...).
 

MadballJuve

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Oct 8, 2007
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Of course, at the time, he had just signed Andrade, had high hopes on Criscito and thought Chiellini and Grygera were going to round out his top 4. Legrottaglie was his last choice defender. What a difference 3 months can make, especially when Barzagli had some high-profile strong performances.

Suddenly, the thought may have became... hmm... maybe he's not a bad idea.

I still think a wingback is top priority, but Barzagli is far from a bad decision.
I agree. Zaccardo of Grosso maybe? But Barzagli... I'll even count in a few euros if I have to.
 

Jim_Boi

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Oct 7, 2007
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I agree. Zaccardo of Grosso maybe? But Barzagli... I'll even count in a few euros if I have to.
I would take either Grosso or Pasqual for the left-back position. But we all know that LYON doesn't sell a player unless they get paid a lot, so I think that we are more likely to sign Pasqual (too bad we haven't been connected with him).

Now about Zaccardo, yeah I wouldn't mind having him. I really haven't seen him play so I have nothing bad or good to say about him. But I would prefer Ivanovic since he can play as a CB or RB.
 

Thunderball

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May 4, 2007
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I would take either Grosso or Pasqual for the left-back position. But we all know that LYON doesn't sell a player unless they get paid a lot, so I think that we are more likely to sign Pasqual (too bad we haven't been connected with him).

Now about Zaccardo, yeah I wouldn't mind having him. I really haven't seen him play so I have nothing bad or good to say about him. But I would prefer Ivanovic since he can play as a CB or RB.
Zaccardo is the same as Ivanovic, in the respect that both can play RB and CB. The difference is Ivanovic is a better CB and Zaccardo is a better RB. I see RB as the greater concern, assuming some combination of Legrottaglie, Andrade and Chiellini are in form this season, and Chiellini and Criscito long term. Grygera is not starter quality for CL and neither is Zebina.

I actually thought Zaccardo looked better than Barzagli in the 3 or so Palermo games I've seen. However, Barzagli seems to have to cover for the defensive duties of his midfielders and lousy defenders like Biava... so maybe his Italy play is a better barometer of his skill in a better defensive system.

I would say Zaccardo would be an ideal summer signing assuming Birindelli retires and Zebina is sold. Right now, Grosso or Pasqual should be priority one. Not because Molinaro is bad, but cause Chiellini is so good at CB, and there's no credible cover at LB. Grosso in particular gives Juve a sure thing at LB with Molinaro there to cover as needed, and play in lesser games.

Personally, I would buy Grosso, Pasqual, or Barzagli now, loan Criscito, and negotiate for Zaccardo in June.
 

Adrian

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Jan 31, 2003
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I'm not a fan of Zaccardo, and I think Barzagli is better as a CB.

Bring in Barzagli, keep Chiellini as a CB and have Andrade, Legro and Crsicito.

As for RB, it all depends on what Ranieri is going to instruct him to do. I like Grygera but if Ranieri wants him to run up and down that wing, deliver great crosses etc..as Zambro did as a full back at juve, then i think he isnt good enough for that. but if we need a RB who is solid defensively and links up well with Camo on the right side, then i think he is good enough.

LB is a concern, i so miss Balzaretti!!! Pasqual would be good to get.

De Ceglie is looks good at left though also.
 

Thunderball

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May 4, 2007
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I'm not a fan of Zaccardo, and I think Barzagli is better as a CB.

Bring in Barzagli, keep Chiellini as a CB and have Andrade, Legro and Crsicito.

As for RB, it all depends on what Ranieri is going to instruct him to do. I like Grygera but if Ranieri wants him to run up and down that wing, deliver great crosses etc..as Zambro did as a full back at juve, then i think he isnt good enough for that. but if we need a RB who is solid defensively and links up well with Camo on the right side, then i think he is good enough.

LB is a concern, i so miss Balzaretti!!! Pasqual would be good to get.

De Ceglie is looks good at left though also.
If Ranieri is a typical Italian manager... his wingbacks are absolutely crucial. Going forward, Molinaro and Grygera don't inspire me. However, Molinaro does show glimmers of having what it takes to be a prototypical Italian wingback. If Ranieri lacks faith in Zebina and Grygera (which it appears), there aren't many players that could be as effective as Zaccardo for that price point (10m Euro or less).

Like I said, a LB should be priority 1 in January.My picks are obvious... Grosso and Pasqual. If they can't do it, grab Barzagli and push Chiellini back to LB as needed against big opponents while cultivating Molinaro against less powerful opposition.

Zaccardo would be a summer acqusition. But, could be negotiated in January. Wholesale change is probably not happening in January... since bringing Zaccardo means someone has to go. De Ceglie could fill a gap one day, but I don't think they can bet on that with CL aspirations... too much pressure on him.
 

Jim_Boi

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Oct 7, 2007
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If I were to choose between Grosso and Pasqual. I would pick the latter since he is young and Grosso is already 30 yrs old, he would be a short-term investment.
 

Adrian

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Jan 31, 2003
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If Ranieri is a typical Italian manager... his wingbacks are absolutely crucial. Going forward, Molinaro and Grygera don't inspire me. However, Molinaro does show glimmers of having what it takes to be a prototypical Italian wingback. If Ranieri lacks faith in Zebina and Grygera (which it appears), there aren't many players that could be as effective as Zaccardo for that price point (10m Euro or less).

Like I said, a LB should be priority 1 in January.My picks are obvious... Grosso and Pasqual. If they can't do it, grab Barzagli and push Chiellini back to LB as needed against big opponents while cultivating Molinaro against less powerful opposition.

Zaccardo would be a summer acqusition. But, could be negotiated in January. Wholesale change is probably not happening in January... since bringing Zaccardo means someone has to go. De Ceglie could fill a gap one day, but I don't think they can bet on that with CL aspirations... too much pressure on him.
Does Zaccardo really inspire you moving forward? And moving Chiellini back to left back would be a step backwards in his development.

Grosso has the experience which we probably need right now but Pasqual, as you mentioned is one for the future. I still have hope for Molinaro, I think he can be something. All in all, Grosso to take left back for the next 2 seasons with De Ceglie taking over would be the best choice.

What about trying Salihamidzic at right back...I think he could give us some good drive.
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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Zebina, Grygera and Salihamidzic have the right back position covered. We even have Birindelli as an emergency option. Left back is more of a concern as Molinaro is yet to convince me.
 
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