NATO and Pakistan Clash at Border Post (10 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

Pakistan Troops, NATO Helicopters Clash at Border
By Haris Anwar and James Rupert - May 17, 2011 8:27 AM ET

Two NATO helicopters entered Pakistani airspace and triggered a firefight that injured two soldiers, Pakistan’s military said, in a further setback to ties strained by the U.S. raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

Pakistan troops at a border post in the North Waziristan region shot at the aircraft of the U.S.-led force in Afghanistan and were injured in a return of fire, according to an e-mail sent by Inter-Services Public Relations, the press office at Pakistan’s army headquarters in Rawalpindi. The army has lodged a “strong protest” with NATO’s Kabul-based International Security Assistance Force, the statement said. ISAF is aware of the incident and is investigating, spokesman Lieutenant John Harden said by phone.

North Waziristan is a mountainous district from where Afghan and Pakistani Taliban guerrillas attack U.S. troops across the border in Afghanistan. Last September, Pakistan closed its border to U.S. military supplies for 10 days after a similar exchange of fire between a U.S. helicopter and Pakistani border troops.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...helicopters-in-afghanistan-border-region.html

 

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[.zero]

No comment

 

[swag]

Because the U.S. runs NATO.

 

[Fake Melo]

I actually read this in a Norwegian newspage. Seems like Pakistani media isn't making a big fuss about it.

 

[Ahmed]

it did in the morning, that was several hours ago.

 

[Bjerknes]

The AP is running with this headline

NATO helicopter attacks Pakistani army post

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110517/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan

Just more destabilization in progress.

 

[Bjerknes]

CIA has created own Taliban to wreak terror havoc on Pakistan, claims Pak paper
By ANI | ANI – Thu, May 12, 2011

Lahore, May 12(ANI): Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) operatives have infiltrated the Taliban and Al-Qaeda networks, and have created their own Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) force in order to destabilise Pakistan, a Pakistani newspaper has claimed.

Much of the information-gathering network of Pakistan's supreme security service was curtailed in the country's tribal areas during former military ruler Pervez Musharraf's era, consequently giving an edge to America's CIA, The Nation reported.

The CIA was given direct access to the entire territory of North and South Waziristan, which has since developed its stronghold in the belt, it added.

According to sources, the CIA's operations, which were suspended in Balochistan, Punjab, Islamabad and other areas of the country after the Raymond Allen Davis (RAD) incident, have also been restored.

Responding to a query, the sources said that the CIA operatives have infiltrated the Taliban and Al-Qaeda networks, and have created their own TTP force, the paper said.

This force has been recruited, trained and equipped by these CIA operatives to target the Pakistan Army personnel, armed forces' installations, markets, hospitals, schools and public places to destabilise Pakistan, the paper added.

The paper quoted the sources, as claiming that the Soviet Intelligence Agency had already disclosed that CIA contractor Raymond Davis and his network had provided Al-Qaeda operatives with chemical, nuclear and biological weapons, so that US installations may be targeted and Pakistan be blamed, and pressed to do more in areas such as conducting operations in North Waziristan.

"After the civil government justified the CIA operation in Abbottabad all of them have again indulged in their original nefarious activities," the sources added.

Former ISI Punjab Regional Commander, Brigadier (retired) Aslam Ghuman, was quoted as saying: "During my visit to the US, I learnt Israeli spy agency Mossad, in connivance with Indian agency RAW, under the direct supervision of CIA, planned to destabilise Pakistan at any cost".

The paper also quoted former Punjab Military Intelligence (MI) chief, Brigadier (retired) Mohammad Yousuf, as saying that over 7,000 CIA operatives have been conducting warfare within Pakistan.

"Days after the mystery of 9/11, the CIA operatives landed in Pakistan in order to train Pakistani troops and authorities concerned for counter terrorism, but with the passage of time, their demands increased, and now the CIA network has a strong grip," said another ex- ISI Punjab Regional Commander, Brigadier (retired) Ghazanfar. (ANI)

http://my.news.yahoo.com/cia-created-own-taliban-wreak-terror-havoc-pakistan-091621821.html

 

[swag]

Conspiracy theorists coming home to roost, y'all/

 

[Bjerknes]

Greg, the Democratic party called, they're unable to give you your anal virginity back.

 

[swag]

Greg, the Democratic party called, they're unable to give you your anal virginity back.

Yo, Andy... Weimar Germany called. They said stop being so ideological.

 

[Bjerknes]

I think you should take your own advice on that one.

 

[swag]

Andy, you're too young to be a crank. You need to be in some academic field with a fat, frigid wife, facing some mondo mid-life crisis that empowers your streams of conspiracy crankdom as a new life battle.

You start now, you'll have already peaked and what then?

 

[ReBeL]

Maybe this is an attempt to deny that there was cooridnation to kill Bin Laden between US and the Pakistani army in order to decrease the anger they face there.

 

[swag]

The Pakistani military looks like a bunch of pushovers, international lackeys, at the moment. They probably need to demonstrate they still aren't wearing skirts.

 

[Bjerknes]

Andy, you're too young to be a crank. You need to be in some academic field with a fat, frigid wife, facing some mondo mid-life crisis that empowers your streams of conspiracy crankdom as a new life battle.

You start now, you'll have already peaked and what then?

Here's the deal, Greg. Calling someone a conspiracy theorist is like calling them a poo-poo head. Considering you're as gullible as a four year-old when it comes to trusting government, I guess it's rather fitting to call me that, and you deserve whatever other insult is directed to you. IMO, you're part of the reason why this country is heading downhill. You dismiss everything you don't want to hear as poo-poo.

 

[swag]

Here's the deal, Greg. Calling someone a conspiracy theorist is like calling them a poo-poo head. Considering you're as gullible as a four year-old when it comes to trusting government, I guess it's rather fitting to call me that, and you deserve whatever other insult is directed to you. IMO, you're part of the reason why this country is heading downhill. You dismiss everything you don't want to hear as poo-poo.

That you think I'm a card-carrying Democrat is the first of many misconceptions that fail to meet your archetyping. How can I rationally respond to someone with that kind of assumption about the world?

 

[Bjerknes]

That you think I'm a card-carrying Democrat is the first of many misconceptions that fail to meet your archetyping. How can I rationally respond to someone with that kind of assumption about the world?

Doesn't matter what card you carry, your constant defense of government and the two-party system tells me enough. Basically, I'm talking to a brick wall that has the words "conspiracy theorist" and "poo-poo head" written on it. In other words, I might as well just interact with gutter poet.

 

[delrey]

Is US and Pakistan realy in bad relations? Maybe there is some hidden agenda...
Like cutting one of oil suplies to China? Iran--->Pakistan--->China.
There.

 

[Bjerknes]

I'm sure whatever the deal is, the US government is doing the right thing, just like it always does.

 

[swag]

Doesn't matter what card you carry, your constant defense of government and the two-party system tells me enough. Basically, I'm talking to a brick wall that has the words "conspiracy theorist" and "poo-poo head" written on it. In other words, I might as well just interact with gutter poet.

Sorry, but if you think that anybody who considers truthers to be nutjobs are government-loving stooges, then by your definition I am. But by that token, you've completely diluted the meaning of a government-loving stooge.

The ever-popular Hitler analogy is a joke because when everyone gets compared to Nazis, suddenly Hitler seems as tame as a single mom who buys organic vegetables. If you're not judicious about your definitions, your ideology collapses upon itself.

To think I even like the two-party system... really.