Nationality debate (14 Viewers)

Mark

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Dec 19, 2003
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You shouldn't even think about it. Whether he plays for the US, Italy or T&T all I would care is that he plays well for Juve.

Canada and soccer/football shouldn't be in the same sentence. No coaches, no real league, no organization...yeah, the kids play it a lot but they're going nowhere until they implement a good system with the right people on board. For now it's a joke. The US are miles ahead atm.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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Why didn't I listen to that little voice inside my head that told me this was going to devolve into something much bigger than a future striker for Juventus??
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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You shouldn't even think about it. Whether he plays for the US, Italy or T&T all I would care is that he plays well for Juve.

Canada and soccer/football shouldn't be in the same sentence. No coaches, no real league, no organization...yeah, the kids play it a lot but they're going nowhere until they implement a good system with the right people on board. For now it's a joke. The US are miles ahead atm.
So does that mean you shouldn't care about it, just because it sucks?

This is also partly why I don't care for fans who don't support their own nations. The only way their nation will get better is if people take time to support it, not gloryhunt for other nations. It's quite frankly pathetic and fucking disgusting.

But fine, Mark. Complain Canada's football sucks while not doing anything about it, or for it.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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For the last time, Hust, there are no simpleminded criteria for this. Those were just examples.
That comment was really directed at you Marty, but I gave examples and got shot to hell for it and ridiculed by others. All I was trying to do was state my opinion and understand everyone elses, at least I tried to understand some of the others. Thats more of an effort than I got for my opinion/ideas anyways. Earlier I was being made fun of for being a stupid american.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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That comment was really directed at you Marty, but I gave examples and got shot to hell for it and ridiculed by others. All I was trying to do was state my opinion and understand everyone elses, at least I tried to understand some of the others. Thats more of an effort than I got for my opinion/ideas anyways. Earlier I was being made fun of for being a stupid american.
Who did that? Name names.
 

Mark

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Dec 19, 2003
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So does that mean you shouldn't care about it, just because it sucks?

This is also partly why I don't care for fans who don't support their own nations. The only way their nation will get better is if people take time to support it, not gloryhunt for other nations. It's quite frankly pathetic and fucking disgusting.

But fine, Mark. Complain Canada's football sucks while not doing anything about it, or for it.
Where the fuck dis I say they shouldn't have support? I'm saying those lazy ass mofo's are doing SHIT to help it out. You have old geisers here who don't give a f*ck about what's going on here
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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So does that mean you shouldn't care about it, just because it sucks?

This is also partly why I don't care for fans who don't support their own nations. The only way their nation will get better is if people take time to support it, not gloryhunt for other nations. It's quite frankly pathetic and fucking disgusting.

But fine, Mark. Complain Canada's football sucks while not doing anything about it, or for it.
:agree:

High five fellow American, high five :tup:
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Where the fuck dis I say they shouldn't have support? I'm saying those lazy ass mofo's are doing SHIT to help it out. You have old geisers here who don't give a f*ck about what's going on here
I thought you were insinuating you couldn't give a rat's ass about it because it sucked, which IMO is the wrong attitude.
 
Jul 10, 2006
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So does that mean you shouldn't care about it, just because it sucks?

This is also partly why I don't care for fans who don't support their own nations. The only way their nation will get better is if people take time to support it, not gloryhunt for other nations. It's quite frankly pathetic and fucking disgusting.

But fine, Mark. Complain Canada's football sucks while not doing anything about it, or for it.
I support the USNT, own a couple jersey's and watch all their matches I can. The only time I don't root for them is when they play Italy and that happens like twice, maybe three times a decade.

I don't think things like this have any affect on how the USNT plays at all. There just aren't enough soccer fanatics in the US overall to help the sport grow enough so that some of those kids that grow up playing football, baseball or bball might instead see soccer as an option.

Everyone wants to be Tom Brady, Kobe Bryant or LeBron. No one wants to be Landon Donovan. Can't say I blame them on that one, though. :p
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Who did that? Name names.
Juve_kosova for one, everyone else pretty much just disagreed with me. Rather than try and explain their opinions everyone jumps the gun. Read a few pages back right before the italy game today. Frustrating trying to explain your thoughts and opinions when honestly some here really don't give a shit what you think because they think differently. I'm tired of the anti-american bullshit as well, I disagree then suddenly I'm turned into a dumb American....
 

Mark

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I thought you were insinuating you couldn't give a rat's ass about it because it sucked, which IMO is the wrong attitude.
oh boy please to get me into this Andy. I can't take it. I've been to meetings and sh*t but all they care is eating those stupid boiled eggs in un-toasted bread(don't know the f*ckin' word). I've said they need their own league, mostly Canadians in the squad, REAL coaches, a fine system to help those kids get some $$$ while playing, having soccer in high school and tournaments...all that stuff. THEY don't give a sh*t man.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Juve_kosova for one, everyone else pretty much just disagreed with me. Rather than try and explain their opinions everyone jumps the gun. Read a few pages back right before the italy game today. Frustrating trying to explain your thoughts and opinions when honestly some here really don't give a shit what you think because they think differently. I'm tired of the anti-american bullshit as well, I disagree then suddenly I'm turned into a dumb American....
Well, of course, because that's all they can say really. It's funny, because the US probably has the most number of good posters on this forum from any particular country. Aaron, Burke, you, Sergio, Pado, Greg, Tahir and others.

Juve_Kosova should be happy we illegally stole his country from Serbia for his family to have a better life, but he's too busy trying to spell his own name.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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oh boy please to get me into this Andy. I can't take it. I've been to meetings and sh*t but all they care is eating those stupid boiled eggs in un-toasted bread(don't know the f*ckin' word). I've said they need their own league, mostly Canadians in the squad, REAL coaches, a fine system to help those kids get some $$$ while playing, having soccer in high school and tournaments...all that stuff. THEY don't give a sh*t man.
OK, apologies then, I thought you were saying something else. :tup:
 

Max

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Jul 15, 2003
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oh boy please to get me into this Andy. I can't take it. I've been to meetings and sh*t but all they care is eating those stupid boiled eggs in un-toasted bread(don't know the f*ckin' word). I've said they need their own league, mostly Canadians in the squad, REAL coaches, a fine system to help those kids get some $$$ while playing, having soccer in high school and tournaments...all that stuff. THEY don't give a sh*t man.
They don't give a shit, you're right. Let's march. We can change things, dammit. I'm making it my mission now.
 

Mark

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You don't have to apologize Andy because in the end that blocked me from anything close to the NT team. :D Until they do something about it, my Italian roots will grow a bit more. :p

I respect what the Saputo's do with the Impact but in the end, they'll go to the MLS and Canadian soccer will be in deeper shit.
 

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