Nationality debate (18 Viewers)
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Fuck you, you don't even know what American is.
Andy thinks that Ibisevic and Subotic should play for the USA.
Ibisevic was born in Bosnia to Bosnian parents. He lived there until he was 16. Then he and his family moved to Switzerland where they lived until he was 17. Then they moved to the US and he lived there from 2001 till 2004. After 2004 he went back to Europe. Are those 3 years he spent in USA really enough for him to play for the US?
Subotic was born in Bosnia to Serbian parents. He lived there until he was 5. Then his family moved to Germany where they lived for 6 years until he was 11. After that the family moved to USA where Subotic lived from 1999 until 2007 and even played for the US youth teams. For the last 2 years he lives in Germany.
So, 8 years in Germany, 8 years in USA, 5 years in Bosnia.
I think that if you hold a passport you can play for the particular country so i'd have nothing against Subotic and Ibisevic play for the US if that's what they wanted. But i fail to understand why does Andy, and maybe some other Americans, see them as traitors
My english sucks I know..
Anyway, about Rossi talk here, and others..
Let's say Rossi wasent a football player, but he was a criminal in the USA, the amaricans wouldent talk about him as an amarican, they would say that mafioso italiano is a criminal, send that fucker back to where he came from, blablabla.. But he happend to be a football player and suddently he is 100% Amarican! And he should play for the country that gave him soooooooooo much!.. my ass!...
He should play for the country he has in his heart and blood!.. That is Italy!.. No matter how long he has been living in the States. He is Italian, will alwayse be!..
Anyway, about Rossi talk here, and others..
Let's say Rossi wasent a football player, but he was a criminal in the USA, the amaricans wouldent talk about him as an amarican, they would say that mafioso italiano is a criminal, send that fucker back to where he came from, blablabla.. But he happend to be a football player and suddently he is 100% Amarican! And he should play for the country that gave him soooooooooo much!.. my ass!...
He should play for the country he has in his heart and blood!.. That is Italy!.. No matter how long he has been living in the States. He is Italian, will alwayse be!..
Fuck you, you don't even know what American is.
It's still confusing when you read some of Andy's posts, even if you know that the Americans take the concept of nationality different than the Europeans do. :smile:
Andy thinks that Ibisevic and Subotic should play for the USA.
Ibisevic was born in Bosnia to Bosnian parents. He lived there until he was 16. Then he and his family moved to Switzerland where they lived until he was 17. Then they moved to the US and he lived there from 2001 till 2004. After 2004 he went back to Europe. Are those 3 years he spent in USA really enough for him to play for the US?
Subotic was born in Bosnia to Serbian parents. He lived there until he was 5. Then his family moved to Germany where they lived for 6 years until he was 11. After that the family moved to USA where Subotic lived from 1999 until 2007 and even played for the US youth teams. For the last 2 years he lives in Germany.
So, 8 years in Germany, 8 years in USA, 5 years in Bosnia.
I think that if you hold a passport you can play for the particular country so i'd have nothing against Subotic and Ibisevic play for the US if that's what they wanted. But i fail to understand why does Andy, and maybe some other Americans, see them as traitors
Andy thinks that Ibisevic and Subotic should play for the USA.
Ibisevic was born in Bosnia to Bosnian parents. He lived there until he was 16. Then he and his family moved to Switzerland where they lived until he was 17. Then they moved to the US and he lived there from 2001 till 2004. After 2004 he went back to Europe. Are those 3 years he spent in USA really enough for him to play for the US?
Subotic was born in Bosnia to Serbian parents. He lived there until he was 5. Then his family moved to Germany where they lived for 6 years until he was 11. After that the family moved to USA where Subotic lived from 1999 until 2007 and even played for the US youth teams. For the last 2 years he lives in Germany.
So, 8 years in Germany, 8 years in USA, 5 years in Bosnia.
I think that if you hold a passport you can play for the particular country so i'd have nothing against Subotic and Ibisevic play for the US if that's what they wanted. But i fail to understand why does Andy, and maybe some other Americans, see them as traitors
Players can play wherever they want if they qualify for it, but I wouldn't expect someone from Serbia to be pleased or cheer for Subotic if he chose the U.S.
He may not have been as good, but I don't think you understand this stuff. Remember, Landon Donovan and other young American players went to Europe at an early age.
Rossi would have went over there regardless because he had the talent.
And any of you morons who claim that he wasn't talented before going over there, screw you. That's how he got over there in the first place, dumbasses.
Rossi would have went over there regardless because he had the talent.
And any of you morons who claim that he wasn't talented before going over there, screw you. That's how he got over there in the first place, dumbasses.
I'm sorry for ever bringing this up. It's not even about who has most merit anyway. Someone in the USA must have done well to see his talent and they must have done a good job at Parma to make him this good.
As far as I'm concerned the USA and Italy are both equally entitled to Rossi, so it's up to him and he chose Italy.
As far as I'm concerned the USA and Italy are both equally entitled to Rossi, so it's up to him and he chose Italy.
Wow what an ignorant comment to make. Something as insane as what you just said should be laughed at.
We are still the land of opportunity which is why somewhere along the line rossi's parents came here seeking opportunities. Rossi had the talent he was going to make anyways, all I am trying to say is why I wouldn't be happy with rossi in juve because of my history in football. When I was younger I trained with the Bayer Leverkusen youth teams. By heritage and family bloodlines I'm naturally german-italian, but my ass was born in America (thankfully) and I made sure they knew that. I might not have been as good as those german youths but when I left I made sure they knew who I was and where I came from, I never once claimed to be german by birthright and try out for their national team.
I can't stand this anti-american sentiment on here by some members. I have never hated on anyone in here based off of nationality, yet I disagree on one thing as the majority then get ridiculed for it. Screw that, US has rid the world of more insane murders guilty of sick war crimes killing thousands even millions of innocent people that all came from your areas of the world. I'm still glad to say I came from a country that had the balls to stand up.
Criminals disowned by americans but 1 good football player and we freak out. Wow, juve_kosova, that might have been the worst example possible. No thought process went into that at all.
Like I said the other day, I was in ODP my whole life up until 17 or so, as someone who tried to make it and failed to someone who was better, that I understand and accept. I don't accept someone that jumps ship on the system. I just don't agree with it, sorry if some members find that insane, silly or just plain fucking stupid...frankly I don't care, I respect everyones opinion on the matter, but don't you dare start knocking me because of some mythical "american pride" bullshit, you can keep your thoughts on that stupidity to yourselves otherwise you make a fool of yourseld like juve_kosova did.
That is my case, I already know who disagrees with it and I accept that you feel different. I'd really appreciate this anti-american sentiments to find the exit and not return. The US has always been a melting pot and for those who wish to come here for something they might not be able to get somewhere else then I welcome you with open arms, just don't abuse the system here because it does have an ill-effect on others.
We are still the land of opportunity which is why somewhere along the line rossi's parents came here seeking opportunities. Rossi had the talent he was going to make anyways, all I am trying to say is why I wouldn't be happy with rossi in juve because of my history in football. When I was younger I trained with the Bayer Leverkusen youth teams. By heritage and family bloodlines I'm naturally german-italian, but my ass was born in America (thankfully) and I made sure they knew that. I might not have been as good as those german youths but when I left I made sure they knew who I was and where I came from, I never once claimed to be german by birthright and try out for their national team.
I can't stand this anti-american sentiment on here by some members. I have never hated on anyone in here based off of nationality, yet I disagree on one thing as the majority then get ridiculed for it. Screw that, US has rid the world of more insane murders guilty of sick war crimes killing thousands even millions of innocent people that all came from your areas of the world. I'm still glad to say I came from a country that had the balls to stand up.
Criminals disowned by americans but 1 good football player and we freak out. Wow, juve_kosova, that might have been the worst example possible. No thought process went into that at all.
Like I said the other day, I was in ODP my whole life up until 17 or so, as someone who tried to make it and failed to someone who was better, that I understand and accept. I don't accept someone that jumps ship on the system. I just don't agree with it, sorry if some members find that insane, silly or just plain fucking stupid...frankly I don't care, I respect everyones opinion on the matter, but don't you dare start knocking me because of some mythical "american pride" bullshit, you can keep your thoughts on that stupidity to yourselves otherwise you make a fool of yourseld like juve_kosova did.
That is my case, I already know who disagrees with it and I accept that you feel different. I'd really appreciate this anti-american sentiments to find the exit and not return. The US has always been a melting pot and for those who wish to come here for something they might not be able to get somewhere else then I welcome you with open arms, just don't abuse the system here because it does have an ill-effect on others.
