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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


Of course Mutu can take Ale's spot. Del Piero was way better than Mutu years ago, but ATM Mutu outplays Ale.

Zlatan's shot was egocentric, which is alright if it atleast had been good. Furthermore you do show a lot of Zlatan favouritism and you constantly criticise Del Piero even without any reason to do so.
I too, like many others, criticise Zlatan for holding on to the ball a little too much, but sometimes it works in our advantage. What I do not like to see is people showing favoritism, and giving or not giving credit where it is due. Too frequently I see favoritism towards Del Piero, when he does not deserve the praise he recieves.

People complain and moan during matchdays when Del Piero sits out for Zlatan and Zalayeta, when the latter two deserve to be fielded, not Del Piero. Like I said we will lose a lot of fans once Del Piero's time is up.

Oh, give me a few examples on how I have been too harsh on our Captain? And if by harsh, you mean truthful, than that does not work.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Monkfish ] ++
I hope we get Mutu, he is a great player and has proved he can cut it in Serie A.

As for DP, his performances have been absolutely awful, against Fiorentina he constantly gave the ball away. I'm fed up of people going on about what he has done in the past. In the present - which is all important - he should be on the subs bench.
Exactly. I'm sorry to break it to everyone, but Del Piero's career at Juventus is falling faster than the stock market after 9/11.


@Arif: But if Zlatan would not have held up the ball for long, Del Piero would not have been in the position which he scored from, thus no goal.
 

The Arif

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Jan 31, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
But if Zlatan didnt do what he did Alex would have scored!!! Is that so hard to understand?

Yes, but still Del Piero is the one who scored the goal. That matters.

I'd take DP's tap-ins over Zlatan's dribbles anytime.
 

The Arif

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Jan 31, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
@Arif: But if Zlatan would not have held up the ball for long, Del Piero would not have been in the position which he scored from, thus no goal.
Yes, but Del Piero didn't go to the goal to expect a passing from the Zlatan, as he wanted to finish the action by himself, DP was there in case Kahn couldn't have hold the ball, which he didn't, and Del Piero scored.
 

LaPrimaJuve

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Sep 27, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


Then bash those people, but don't bash Alex. I'm Ale's biggest fan and I really want Mutu to come. It just isn't very fair to criticise Ale on a consistent base while Zlatan can do no wrong.
:cheesy: I love how DP's biggest fan has a David Beckham avatar!:D

Let's picture something, DP in Zlatan's position at Bayern = dive in an attempt to get free kick or penalty = referee waving it off = NO GOAL = No win for la Juve.

Of course, picture Miccoli in DP's position = same thing as before = goal after Zlatan Brilliance! = Win for Bianconero

DP is great, but until I see him produce a quality performance that show more than TAP-IN goals, I'll pull Zalayeta in his place and let DP sub in for him after 60 min.

Free Mutu with a side of Fries! I'll take two!
 

The Arif

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Jan 31, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by LaPrimaJuve ] ++


:cheesy: I love how DP's biggest fan has a David Beckham avatar!:D

Let's picture something, DP in Zlatan's position at Bayern = dive in an attempt to get free kick or penalty = referee waving it off = NO GOAL = No win for la Juve.

Of course, picture Miccoli in DP's position = same thing as before = goal after Zlatan Brilliance! = Win for Bianconero

DP is great, but until I see him produce a quality performance that show more than TAP-IN goals, I'll pull Zalayeta in his place and let DP sub in for him after 60 min.

Free Mutu with a side of Fries! I'll take two!

Lemme get this straight, would you take Zlatans dribbles or Alex's tap-ins?
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by LaPrimaJuve ] ++


:cheesy: I love how DP's biggest fan has a David Beckham avatar!:D
:down: I knew someone was going to notice it, but it's just for the nice Seven that's in there.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Arif ] ++


Yes, but Del Piero didn't go to the goal to expect a passing from the Zlatan, as he wanted to finish the action by himself, DP was there in case Kahn couldn't have hold the ball, which he didn't, and Del Piero scored.
This is rubbish. I don't understand why this keeps coming up. Del Piero was there because that is where strikers go: to the GOAL. It does not matter whether Del Piero was there to recieve a pass, finish an effort, or even have a nice little chat with Olly. It did not take any amount of brilliance to get to Alex's location in front of Kahn, rather, it did take brilliance to get around two defenders to carry the ball in the box to make the goal. No matter how you look at it, Zlatan's job was much more difficult than Alex's.
 

The Arif

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Jan 31, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by LaPrimaJuve ] ++


My Grandma could have put that in!

Zlatan's dribbles and assists are way more important!

:rolleyes: so you think that zlatan's dribbles (most of them are nothing special) are more important than alex's goals?
 

LaPrimaJuve

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Sep 27, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Arif ] ++



:rolleyes: so you think that zlatan's dribbles (most of them are nothing special) are more important than alex's goals?
What's wrong with you man? It is not only Zlatan's dribbling that makes him important. Add in the number of assists that he has acumulated and compare that with DP's. Also, factor in how DP has been scoring.

DP - 1 penalty, 3 tap-ins, 1 great goal from outside the area.

Zlatan - 1 Dribbling goals, 1 finish, 1 header, 1 steal from a defender\slot, 1 chest volley.

Frankly, I think DP has only 1 assist, compared to Zlatan's 6 or 7. What i am trying to tell you is that if you had somebody else in DP's place, that person would have 3 tap in goals. Other than his clean shot against Roma, Ale has failed to produce.

No need to roll your eyes. Show me some quality, then I will lean towards your argument.
 

The Arif

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Jan 31, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by LaPrimaJuve ] ++


What's wrong with you man? It is not only Zlatan's dribbling that makes him important. Add in the number of assists that he has acumulated and compare that with DP's. Also, factor in how DP has been scoring.

DP - 1 penalty, 3 tap-ins, 1 great goal from outside the area.

Zlatan - 1 Dribbling goals, 1 finish, 1 header, 1 steal from a defender\slot, 1 chest volley.

Frankly, I think DP has only 1 assist, compared to Zlatan's 6 or 7. What i am trying to tell you is that if you had somebody else in DP's place, that person would have 3 tap in goals. Other than his clean shot against Roma, Ale has failed to produce.

No need to roll your eyes. Show me some quality, then I will lean towards your argument.

I wasn't talking about Zlatan's assists. I was talking about his dribbles. ;)
 

nedved34

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Oct 3, 2002
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I hate these news about mutu.I saw it on eurosport too it sounds scarey. I don't like the guy.he is not better than zlatan , nor cassano.
and not better than del piero aswell.SO forget about him.bring cassano if u have to bring a forward (which we don't need one this season atleast)
 

arc

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by snoop ] ++
I hate these news about mutu.I saw it on eurosport too it sounds scarey. I don't like the guy.he is not better than zlatan , nor cassano.
and not better than del piero aswell.SO forget about him.bring cassano if u have to bring a forward (which we don't need one this season atleast)

zlatan isnt that good as i expected, atm i rated mutu much higher than him, i hope he can prove me wrong

mutu will take #7 as pessotto is goin to retire
wicked :D
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Oh come on, if that's not some Del Piero favoritism I don't know what is. I do not see how it is reasonable to criticise a player's actions when what he did created a goal. What Zlatan did was far more difficult than Alex's tap in, and in your reasoning you could say that Del Piero was 'lucky' to be in that position. You could even say that if it was not for Zlatan holding up the ball, Alex would not have been in that position to score. So I find Zlatan's contribution for the goal greater than Alex's.

Can Mutu take Alex's spot? Of course he can. Adrian has even outplayed Alex in the past few years, stemming from when he was at Parma.
Even when he was at Parma Alex was better, i think they both scored almost the same or Dp with one goal more, but the diff is that Dp helped his team at that time win the Scud, but i don't see what Mutu did
 

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