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GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,773
For me, the decision to support Franco exposes the fact that it's simply a geopolitical game. It's about who holds the geopolitical cards, not about the suffering of people living under a Stalin or a Franco. The goal is to undermine the opponent's position, even if the person you support in the process is fundamentally opposed to your own 'values'

It’s certainly not about philosophical ideas, like Karl Marx vs John Locke, but rather about who has more influence in a raw and robust way. In that light, I even think we are blinding ourselves in Europe by following the US without any questions like we did before (or perhaps still do) because from this perspective, it’s not really about shared values at all.
You are correct, the only value at that stage in alignment on objectives and interests. But even then, after the fact, are Spain not better off with franco than say a Hoxha ?
 

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Ronn

Mes Que Un Club
May 3, 2012
20,854
Lemme ask you this, were the arab spring revolutions manufactured? Also what tool was used to for the messaging, optics mobilization?

Now ask yourself this, what tool was used in the last 2 years to "redpill" people on the subject? Where can you find the largest library of nazi propaganda, little mustache speeches, and anti jewish rhetoric? When did this start?
I don’t know if any of those are more of an indicator that what’s happening in front of our eyes. Like I said, I doubt anybody would change their vote over people like Ozturk or Khalil, and there’s an anti-academia sentiment in MAGA anyway. So the bait is too small for being considered a trap imo.
Time will tell of course!
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
ic.

Who is doing it? No idea, but to me this all looks manufactured.

https://www.wsj.com/video/series/ws...-reality/A6560017-5E46-42AB-BA00-3A511B92378F

https://www.project2025.org/

- - - Updated - - -

interestingly trump has went beyond what project 2025 recomendded for dealing with immirgrants.

also i don't think anywhere it mentioned the tariffs with canada for example. but the problem here is the people who are behind trump assumed trump would follow their orders to the letter. they didn't count on him being crazy dicator fantasy obsessed. so now here we are,
 
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GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,773
I don’t know if any of those are more of an indicator that what’s happening in front of our eyes. Like I said, I doubt anybody would change their vote over people like Ozturk or Khalil, and there’s an anti-academia sentiment in MAGA anyway. So the bait is too small for being considered a trap imo.
Time will tell of course!
I don't think this is magas doing nor do i think the end goal is simply swinging votes.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,904
BREAKING NEWS: Secretary of Defense Hegseth Accidently Leaks Strike Plans Against SIGNAL IDUNA PARK

Washington DC(Live Breaking News) - Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth has reportedly disclosed a war plan for a strike on SIGNAL IDUNA PARK, a stadium in Dortmund, Germany, via a Telegram Chat. The plan was revealed after a chat member named iloveelonandrussiaxoxoxo inadvertently added former UEFA President Michel Platini to the same chat, presumably instead of National Security Advisor Michael Waltz.

Within the body of the chat, Hegseth appears to address the group by saying, "guys, we have to do something about this Signal shit, I can't sleep even after a few Jack and Cokes. The fake media is garbage." After a few moments, Vice President JD Vance responds by saying, "heard bro. what you want to do?" The chat then devolved into a plans for a strike against Signal Iduna Park, a stadium in Dortmund, Germany, which has nothing to do with the Signal Chat scandal rocking the White House this past week.

Full Chat:
Hegseth: guys, we have to do something about this Signal shit, I can't sleep even after a few jack and cokes. The fake media is garbage.
Vance: heard bro, what you want to do?
Hegseth: We need to do a direct strike at 4:02am against a Signal target using a LGM-118 Peacekeeper missile.
iloveelonandrussiaxoxoxo: adds Michel_Platini to chat
Gabbard: Cool, where could we target?
Hegseth: I found this place called Signal Iduna Park, that must be where those Signal assholes leaked our shit with that Atlantic faggot.
Vance: yeah that's got to be it bro.
iloveelonandrussiaxoxoxo: Yaaaaaaay. Can't we use one of those SpaceX rockets??????????????????????????????????????
Hegseth: Sure, I don't care, whatever you want Elon!
Vance: Good talk bros, lets do this.
Hegseth: OK cool, 4:02am strike against Signal Iduna Park. CONFIRMED.

The attack was supposedly thwarted after Michel Platini reported the chat to UEFA and NATO just minutes after being added. NATO launched multiple American made F-16's to surround the German stadium while Chancellor Olaf Scholz used the Nuclear Command NC3 system to directly contact the United States to stop the attack and explain that the park has nothing to do with the communications app.

Please follow BREAKING NEWS for more news updates on this BREAKING NEWS
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,904
Goal: remove jewish influence/grip on US politics and institutions at large by making it way too obvious who pulls the strings, and by ensuring the concequences are catastrophic.

Who is doing it? No idea, but to me this all looks manufactured.
This just sounds like some sort of coping mechanism for all the horrible crap going on. Obviously Israel is up MAGA’s ass. To make all of this Israel fluffing and deporting of pro-Palestinian protestors as some sort of psyop sacrifice to end their influence over us is quite the remarkable theory. It actually sounds like some weird QAnon stuff with built in plausible deniability. You can do better than this.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,522
should i compare him to orbán once again, who damaged the hungarian budget and fueled inflation by controlling the price of petrol, sugar and stuff when inflation hit? then we had the highest inflation within the eu, quite obviously

 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,749
When you fail to read the ending of the book...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Import_substitution_industrialization

...

Import substitution policies might create jobs in the short run, but as domestic producers replace foreign producers, both output and growth are lower than would otherwise have been in the long run.Import substitution denies the country the benefits to be gained from specialisation and foreign imports. The theory of comparative advantage shows how countries within the model gain from trade, however, this concept has received criticism for its misguided underlying assumptions and inapplicability to modern production. Moreover, protectionism leads to dynamic inefficiency, as domestic producers have no incentive from foreign competitors to reduce costs or improve products. Import substitution can impede growth through poor allocation of resources, and its effect on exchange rates harms exports.

Results

Despite some apparent gains, import substitution was "both unsustainable over time and produced high economic and social costs".
 

Al Birdie

Junior Member
May 19, 2016
458
When you fail to read the ending of the book...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Import_substitution_industrialization

...

Import substitution policies might create jobs in the short run, but as domestic producers replace foreign producers, both output and growth are lower than would otherwise have been in the long run.Import substitution denies the country the benefits to be gained from specialisation and foreign imports. The theory of comparative advantage shows how countries within the model gain from trade, however, this concept has received criticism for its misguided underlying assumptions and inapplicability to modern production. Moreover, protectionism leads to dynamic inefficiency, as domestic producers have no incentive from foreign competitors to reduce costs or improve products. Import substitution can impede growth through poor allocation of resources, and its effect on exchange rates harms exports.

Results

Despite some apparent gains, import substitution was "both unsustainable over time and produced high economic and social costs".
You are going to throw a concept of "dynamic inefficiency" at this guy? C'mon :lol2:
 

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,510
When you fail to read the ending of the book...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Import_substitution_industrialization

...

Import substitution policies might create jobs in the short run, but as domestic producers replace foreign producers, both output and growth are lower than would otherwise have been in the long run.Import substitution denies the country the benefits to be gained from specialisation and foreign imports. The theory of comparative advantage shows how countries within the model gain from trade, however, this concept has received criticism for its misguided underlying assumptions and inapplicability to modern production. Moreover, protectionism leads to dynamic inefficiency, as domestic producers have no incentive from foreign competitors to reduce costs or improve products. Import substitution can impede growth through poor allocation of resources, and its effect on exchange rates harms exports.

Results

Despite some apparent gains, import substitution was "both unsustainable over time and produced high economic and social costs".
Do you have a meme that sums what you wrote?
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
Moderator
Aug 27, 2008
36,316
should i compare him to orbán once again, who damaged the hungarian budget and fueled inflation by controlling the price of petrol, sugar and stuff when inflation hit? then we had the highest inflation within the eu, quite obviously

Are the car makers allowed to employ foreign workers? Specifically ex-Juve employees to cook the book so that they can deceive Wall Street?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
This just sounds like some sort of coping mechanism for all the horrible crap going on. Obviously Israel is up MAGA’s ass. To make all of this Israel fluffing and deporting of pro-Palestinian protestors as some sort of psyop sacrifice to end their influence over us is quite the remarkable theory. It actually sounds like some weird QAnon stuff with built in plausible deniability. You can do better than this.
It's large scale failure of the education system. Nothing more, nothing less.

And while I do think the rest of the world should cut their losses and simply abandon the US for the time being (there's no real coming back from this for the foreseeable future), it should serve as a warning sign. Because in Europe in particular we tend to look at Americans as morons. But the reality is our own education is deteroriating incredibly quickly. When I talk to younger lawyers or younger teammates, it's astonishing to learn how poorly educated they are. And not just about politics or law. It's about everything, hell, even sex ed just seems absent. I don't know what the fuck happened the last decade or so.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,749
Do you have a meme that sums what you wrote?
:D

I mean, as a joke I looked up if someone had Mises Memes for libertarian economists.

Sure enough I found some.

Sure enough, they have no clue about how ridiculous they are because every "meme" to them includes three paragraphs of explanatory monetary policy to complete the joke.

https://misesmemes.com/wide-memes/

I mean, look at this crap! And here I thought Demonrats couldn't meme...

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