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JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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problem with the "alternative media" and "alternative facts" that it normalizes lunatics and lies. a bit of an overreaction



people like bannon, tucker, alex jones, nick fuentes, or the countless russian propaganda echo chambers shouldn't even get a platform. not to mention twitter that elon turned into a complete shitshow in the name of freedom of speech (allegedly he just banned/suspended stephen king for calling him the first lady lol)
This fucking idiot actually believes that China only had 700k cases when US had 110 million lmao.
 

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s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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You’re kind of wasting your time debating with people who aren’t debating this stuff in good faith. They’re shifting the goalposts with every reply.
i don't think quetz is one of those people. also i don't expect anyone to miraculously realize that trump is indeed a piece of shit, a russian agent, a scammer and a guy who normalized lying with every sentence to his own voters. trumpism is like religion, facts and common sense has nothing to do with it. and people rarely change their political views anyway. you won't convince me that orbán is a good guy, taxes are useless or what israel is doing isn't genocide

it's useless talk indeed though, like 99% of tuz posts. dai's photos are the rare exception. we're just messing around here, and it's all right

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on an other note what's tuz's take on rubio: Marco Rubio, who once called Trump 'vulgar' and 'a con artist' tipped to be new secretary of state
at least he doesn't come across as a lunatic
 
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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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i don't think quetz is one of those people. also i don't expect anyone to miraculously realize that trump is indeed a piece of shit, a russian agent, a scammer and a guy who normalized lying with every sentence to his own voters. trumpism is like religion, facts and common sense has nothing to do with it. and people rarely change their political views anyway. you won't convince me that orbán is a good guy, taxes are useless or what israel is doing isn't genocide

it's useless talk indeed though, like 99% of tuz posts. dai's photos are the rare exception. we're just messing around here, and it's all right

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on an other note what's tuz's take on rubio: Marco Rubio, who once called Trump 'vulgar' and 'a con artist' tipped to be new secretary of state
at least he doesn't come across as a lunatic
I also don't think Rubio is a Russian sympathizer, which is good. I recall him being very open about the buildup of Russian troops before the invasion being on the House Intelligence Committee. Hopefully he doesn't get coerced to change.
 

abstract

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Mar 3, 2012
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These morons are making videos when all of the votes didn't even come in, they know their audience is full of idiots, also the graph is misleading. This guy is the biggest political commentator in the US, they're fucked and sadly all of us with them.
Kamala has now 72 mil votes, will end up with 75-76 mil. Literally all you need to do is google ''US elections'' to inform your self, you don't need to watch a 10 hour podcast.
 

icemaη

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Aug 27, 2008
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Yeah. So many right wingers like Alex Jones harp on the surveillance state, making film after film like Endgame, only for it to be the blueprint for the fascist takeover that these guys now support. Unbelievable grifters.

https://x.com/biellacoleman/status/1856330998637875516?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg
At least that’s for entry exit visa (for now). You guys are already in a surveillance state, just that no one said it out loud like Trump has. Eg:
https://www.404media.co/the-open-so...late-surveillance-cameras-all-over-the-world/

Then there is Ring (and others) sending your videos to law enforcement even without you having to do anything. Privacy is a rare thing I’m afraid. I am always surprised by how much leeway your local law enforcement has in procuring and using tech that infringe on privacy with barely any oversight other than privacy advocates who shout from the rooftops but barely anyone listens.
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
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Yeah. So many right wingers like Alex Jones harp on the surveillance state, making film after film like Endgame, only for it to be the blueprint for the fascist takeover that these guys now support. Unbelievable grifters.

https://x.com/biellacoleman/status/1856330998637875516?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg
That sounds like a normal border control system unless I'm missing something?

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At least that’s for entry exit visa (for now). You guys are already in a surveillance state, just that no one said it out loud like Trump has. Eg:
https://www.404media.co/the-open-so...late-surveillance-cameras-all-over-the-world/

Then there is Ring (and others) sending your videos to law enforcement even without you having to do anything. Privacy is a rare thing I’m afraid. I am always surprised by how much leeway your local law enforcement has in procuring and using tech that infringe on privacy with barely any oversight other than privacy advocates who shout from the rooftops but barely anyone listens.
Yep, the nerds at the FBI and CIA have seen the nudes of your girlfriend.
 

Ronn

Mes Que Un Club
May 3, 2012
20,854
We already have such a system in the airports, no?
but it’ll be fun to see the traffic on the Canadian border if they start doing this on land borders.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,781
There was also the time Badass made the baseless claim that Trump will deport blacks and Latinos citizens. I was like nah, and Tuz watted and argued with me. But let's not keep score. Tuzzers in this thread are generally reasonable and sensible.

People love to go on about Trump and his aversion to facts. And rightfully so, he can't go 5 minutes without a lie, exaggeration, etc. And the misinformation and disinformation from the right is unprecedented. But the left isn't far off. Just their propaganda is more sophisticated and subtle. They don't get called out near enough for it from people who are supposedly centrist.

Maybe if the left/Democratic propaganda/mainstream media wasn't such shit over the years, less people would have turned to alternative media and "news" from social media and podcasts.
Just saying, but all of your examples so far have come from the same person :p
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,524
I also don't think Rubio is a Russian sympathizer, which is good. I recall him being very open about the buildup of Russian troops before the invasion being on the House Intelligence Committee. Hopefully he doesn't get coerced to change.





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wait, kristi noem will be the head of homeland security? the one who shot her puppy because she couldn't train the dog properly? :rofl:
 
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Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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problem with the "alternative media" and "alternative facts" that it normalizes lunatics and lies. a bit of an overreaction



people like bannon, tucker, alex jones, nick fuentes, or the countless russian propaganda echo chambers shouldn't even get a platform. not to mention twitter that elon turned into a complete shitshow in the name of freedom of speech (allegedly he just banned/suspended stephen king for calling him the first lady lol)
The Stephen King story is fake :D
 

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