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Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,247
Whoever wins, I want them to win by as little margin as possible and maximum fuckery. For maximum fuckery, I think Kamala needs to win.

Stolen election narratives+ potential uprisings
Elon and Trump going to jail + their fans throwing a fit

vs

ppl mad they can’t abort anymore
 

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s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,523
I dont like either candidate but in recent years I started to dislike left a bit more precisely because of this kind of shit they pull. I also dont think Americans are as divided as media is trying to make us believe.
do you realize that you're agreeing with russian propaganda

trump is literally the only politician who needs an army of journalists, political xperds and fanbois to follow his every step and explain what he really MEANT instead of SAYING. he sounds racist as fuck? he was joking. he looks old, senile and deranged as fuck? biden looks older. he's a criminal? justice system weaponized against poor donnie. he is selling cheap chinese watches for 100k, makes his own bibles that are printed in china of all countries, and scams his supporters with the donations? but kamala never worked in mcdonalds. he lies every time he opens his fucking mouth? that's the way he is, we shouldn't be shocked. he sounds like an imbecile? but kamala yawned

there's a bias against him from the left? that's the nature of press. the difference between trump and basically everyone else is shocking though. he shouldn't be in politics to begin with

twitter went full alt right btw

bottom line is that you give trump a pass every single time for every shit he says or does. ask yourself why. i'd be curious to know the answer why
 

AlexDP705

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Jul 10, 2018
1,134
I dont like either candidate but in recent years I started to dislike left a bit more precisely because of this kind of shit they pull. I also dont think Americans are as divided as media is trying to make us believe.
I can find terrible examples on both sides but media and social media are predominantly positioned on the left. What is annoying is they are trying to take moral high ground while spreading misinformations and reaching higher auditorium. As Ive said, both candidates are awful in their own way and nothing will change for better or worse in the life of average American regardless of the outcome of these elections. As for foreign policy, both politicians fail when it comes to Israel.
Party rhetoric and media-driven polarization makes US politics appear much more varied than it actually is, based around an imaginary center with far-left/communists on one side and far-right/fascists on the other. In reality US politics is firmly right wing and increasingly so, and that has long included the democratic party and its affiliated media.

No clearer example of this than the current administration leading a genocide of middle easterners and it's laundering through a liberal media that has spent the past year (though it's more like the past 2+ decades) dehumanizing muslims and arabs, yet only one side is presented as the fascist/white supremacist threat (in part because conservatives are more outspoken about their fascism).

Ultimately both sides feed into the spectacle because exaggerating the differences between the two parties and gaslighting voters with existential threats (foreign interference, fascist takeover, communist takeover, etc.) every election cycle helps to maintain the facade of democratic legitimacy.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,523
Party rhetoric and media-driven polarization makes US politics appear much more varied than it actually is, based around an imaginary center with far-left/communists on one side and far-right/fascists on the other. In reality US politics is firmly right wing and increasingly so, and that has long included the democratic party and its affiliated media.

No clearer example of this than the current administration leading a genocide of middle easterners and it's laundering through a liberal media that has spent the past year (though it's more like the past 2+ decades) dehumanizing muslims and arabs, yet only one side is presented as the fascist/white supremacist threat (in part because conservatives are more outspoken about their fascism).

Ultimately both sides feed into the spectacle because exaggerating the differences between the two parties and gaslighting voters with existential threats (foreign interference, fascist takeover, communist takeover, etc.) every election cycle helps to maintain the facade of democratic legitimacy.
it's about policies and personalities too, but it looks like a lost cause. people somehow accepted that trump and everything that comes with him (post truth, populism, criminal behavior on multiple levels, foreign influence, etc) is normal while he's clearly not, or at least should not be
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,480

Imagine of all people, one of the darkest material comedians on planet in Jeselnik needing to tell you this.

He is so right, you completely failed as comedian when all people can get out your "joke" is being pissed off due to blatant racism, instead of steering and delivering the joke in a way it's just another risqué racial joke that makes you laugh and move on.


And especially more important to NAIL THE JOKE, when you doing it a charged up political right wing extremist venue. And not even the bigots there laughing at it.

So now both crowds on either said find you unfunny.


What a sham of a comedian.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Party rhetoric and media-driven polarization makes US politics appear much more varied than it actually is, based around an imaginary center with far-left/communists on one side and far-right/fascists on the other. In reality US politics is firmly right wing and increasingly so, and that has long included the democratic party and its affiliated media.

No clearer example of this than the current administration leading a genocide of middle easterners and it's laundering through a liberal media that has spent the past year (though it's more like the past 2+ decades) dehumanizing muslims and arabs, yet only one side is presented as the fascist/white supremacist threat (in part because conservatives are more outspoken about their fascism).

Ultimately both sides feed into the spectacle because exaggerating the differences between the two parties and gaslighting voters with existential threats (foreign interference, fascist takeover, communist takeover, etc.) every election cycle helps to maintain the facade of democratic legitimacy.
:agree:

Jimmy Carter was the closest thing the US has had to a progressive president in the past 60 years and that ended in disaster (a mix of policies, global events outside his control, as well as America really not being ready for that) and the complete revival of the GOP and the Reagan years. The democrats after the Carter presidency and the 1980s fiasco years realized they needed to make a hard veer to the right to appeal to the voting public which was evidenced by Clinton who would have been a strong Conservatice politician in any other first world country. It’s just escalated from there to the point the democrats are a centre right party and this MAGA version the republicans has gone off the deep end into the hard right.
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
Moderator
Aug 27, 2008
36,316
:agree:

Jimmy Carter was the closest thing the US has had to a progressive president in the past 60 years and that ended in disaster (a mix of policies, global events outside his control, as well as America really not being ready for that) and the complete revival of the GOP and the Reagan years. The democrats after the Carter presidency and the 1980s fiasco years realized they needed to make a hard veer to the right to appeal to the voting public which was evidenced by Clinton who would have been a strong Conservatice politician in any other first world country. It’s just escalated from there to the point the democrats are a centre right party and this MAGA version the republicans has gone off the deep end into the hard right.
Far-left in the US is barely left for the rest of the world lol.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
42,253
In economic policy, absolutely.
in social policy, they are quite left wing.
I think more so in the performative aspects of it than actually being socially left wing with concrete policy. If we’re talking about performative identity politics which are pretty nebulous and hazy as far as actual effective in-place policies go, sure… but in terms of social programs and putting into place the structures to allow them to succeed, not so much.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,702
My neighbors who are on both sides of the spectrum always ask me where are your political signs?

Bitch, I hate those stupid things. The signs and "politicians".
I’m same way - I hate them. Find them tacky

obviously you know how I swing but I don’t believe in advertising it with annoying yard signs

my neighbor (Korean war vet) has life size Trump “miss me yet?” Sign

other neighbor has use/israel flag decal on back of his entire truck window lol
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,523
Good chance Vance will be president at some point, regardless of the results Tuesday
i know man, it was just way too funny. and god save america (and the rest of the free world) then. russian assets shouldn't even be running, but here we are

Last time they had Hunter Biden and his laptop. This time they have nothing

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they also have the kamala yawned card
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,907
damn boy

...meanwhile his running mate, jd vance - a name that you'll hear either every day for the next 4 years or never again... :baus:

:lol:

That’s one of the best news clips I’ve ever seen. They’ve earned a follow.

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Good chance Vance will be president at some point, regardless of the results Tuesday
You might be right. He’s even gayer than Booty Judge but obviously closeted.
 

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