'Murica! (108 Viewers)

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Its so sad that we don’t have a single leader from either party who is competent and comes without skeletons in their closets. The truly patriotic, honest and competent ones are not acceptable to the big interest groups (read Aipac, MIC, bankers) because they can't be easily blackmailed. The status quo throaters want a toady in the White House.
The decent ones are JFK'ed.

 

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[AFL_ITALIA]

So you guys think it actually matters, one way or the other?

To be honest, not that much.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

To be honest, not that much.

Yeah, it's like a contest of who do like or hate more. Democracy? I don't think so.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Yeah, it's like a contest of who do like or hate more. Democracy? I don't think so.

Pretty much. Is not like we all don't know who these two are and what they're about.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Pretty much. Is not like we all don't know who these two are and what they're about.

It's kinda weird to me to see intelligent people getting so deeply involved on an emotional level. I suppose there some policy differences between the two that could matter to someone, like economic policies, women's rights, etc. But they still don't give a fugg about you or your interests, and only serve people and corporations working in the shadows. Yet people take it all so personally.

 

[X Æ A-12]

So you guys think it actually matters, one way or the other?

Who wins? Look at the supreme court, foreign policy decidions or immigration figures, it certainly matters on those fronts but yes both candidates more serve their own or donor interests than the common individuals doesnt mean there arent significant policy differences

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

It's kinda weird to me to see intelligent people getting so deeply involved on an emotional level. I suppose there some policy differences between the two that could matter to someone, like economic policies, women's rights, etc. But they still don't give a fugg about you or your interests, and only serve people and corporations working in the shadows. Yet people take it all so personally.

At face value maybe, but it goes deeper than that. Politics are a reflection of your core beliefs. If, for example, you really believe that Hillary Clinton is a Satanist pedophile lizard person and I support her, then I by extension am supporting Satanist pedophile reptile activities.

In all seriousness though for me personally, I do believe that Trump at some level attempted to weaken our Democratic process with the stunts that he pulled around the last election. To me, he is a threat to our Republic, and as such I do find it "concerning" to put it lightly when people adamantly support him because by extension they support weakening of our democratic process and safeguards.

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Who wins? Look at the supreme court, foreign policy decidions or immigration figures, it certainly matters on those fronts but yes both candidates more serve their own or donor interests than the common individuals doesnt mean there arent significant policy differences

I took that to mean about the debate specifically.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Who wins? Look at the supreme court, foreign policy decidions or immigration figures, it certainly matters on those fronts but yes both candidates more serve their own or donor interests than the common individuals doesnt mean there arent significant policy differences

I know there are some differences, immigration being a big one. You're right, it does matter somewhat. But there are many people who can get the job done, yet it's two massive clowns up there. And people hate everyone on the other side over those two. It's like everyone is under some kind of hypnosis where they feel the need to participate in the clown show.

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At face value maybe, but it goes deeper than that. Politics are a reflection of your core beliefs. If, for example, you really believe that Hillary Clinton is a Satanist pedophile lizard person and I support her, then I by extension am supporting Satanist pedophile reptile activities.

In all seriousness though for me personally, I do believe that Trump at some level attempted to weaken our Democratic process with the stunts that he pulled around the last election. To me, he is a threat to our Republic, and as such I do find it "concerning" to put it lightly when people adamantly support him because by extension they support weakening of our democratic process and safeguards.

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I took that to mean about the debate specifically.

I shouldn't have suggested that it doesn't matter. I just can't help watching the debates, the pundits' reactions, people on the internet losing their minds, at the same time knowing all the candidates and officials are plants, and thinking... how are people falling for this shit?

My cynicism goes a bit far I guess.

 

[Post Ironic]

Jesus I'm watching the debate over my lunch break. This shit is more entertaining meltdown then any Marvel superhero movies final act.


Her shit eating grin every time she knew he said something she will roast him on was hilarious.


Almost expected Jeff Ross to show up to roast him too.

From what I’ve read about her before, not really a fan of Kamala, but those shit eating grins every time Trump said something ridiculous were perfect. Made her that wee bit more likeable lol

 

[X Æ A-12]

I took that to mean about the debate specifically.

oh well the debate mattered too imo, Trump shit the bed, got effortlessly baited into looking like a retard on national TV

it was a useful reminder to folks who haven't seen him in a while, haven't heard the crazy

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I know there are some differences, immigration being a big one. You're right, it does matter somewhat. But there are many people who can get the job done, yet it's two massive clowns up there. And people hate everyone on the other side over those two. It's like everyone is under some kind of hypnosis where they feel the need to participate in the clown show.

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I shouldn't have suggested that it doesn't matter. I just can't help watching the debates, the pundits' reactions, people on the internet losing their minds, at the same time knowing all the candidates and officials are plants, and thinking... how are people falling for this shit?

My cynicism goes a bit far I guess.

I think that you're in a different country also makes it easier to detach yourself from it.

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oh well the debate mattered too imo, Trump shit the bed, got effortlessly baited into looking like a retard on national TV

it was a useful reminder to folks who haven't seen him in a while, haven't heard the crazy

It did. But really by now who doesn't know who they at least aren't voting for? Fanatical Trump supporters will still be there, as will be the people that hate him. But then again, since only like 5 states matter you're probably right.

 

[X Æ A-12]

I think that you're in a different country also makes it easier to detach yourself from it.

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It did. But really by now who doesn't know who they at least aren't voting for?

From my understanding, white suburban voters in Georgia, Penn, arizona, michigan are the "purple" voters projected to decide the election and current figures are neck and neck so the debate may end up being very important.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

From my understanding, white suburban voters in Georgia, Penn, arizona, michigan are the "purple" voters projected to decide the election and current figures are neck and neck so the debate may end up being very important.

What an election system

 

[campionesidd]

From my understanding, white suburban voters in Georgia, Penn, arizona, michigan are the "purple" voters projected to decide the election and current figures are neck and neck so the debate may end up being very important.

Jon Stewart describes the situation prefectly here:

 

[X Æ A-12]

What an election system

We will be in our 50s before we are free of the tyranny of boomers

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

We will be in our 50s before we are free of the tyranny of boomers

We maybe could be rid of the electoral college by then, but that's about it.

 

[U Picciriddu]

With women I always have that would bang y/n test. Meloni, yes would, therefore like. Merkel? Hell no, never liked her. Kamala.. I mean yeah I would, she looks like she can clean too. Hillary Clinton? Big no, but maybe if drunk but she killed Khadaffi so no not having sex what satan. Anna Paulina Luna talking about UAP? Where’s her dad let me ask for her hand.

 

[Seven]

With women I always have that would bang y/n test. Meloni, yes would, therefore like. Merkel? Hell no, never liked her. Kamala.. I mean yeah I would, she looks like she can clean too. Hillary Clinton? Big no, but maybe if drunk but she killed Khadaffi so no not having sex what satan. Anna Paulina Luna talking about UAP? Where’s her dad let me ask for her hand.

You're totally banging Trump.

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[Ronn]

 

[X Æ A-12]

I know there are some differences, immigration being a big one. You're right, it does matter somewhat. But there are many people who can get the job done, yet it's two massive clowns up there. And people hate everyone on the other side over those two. It's like everyone is under some kind of hypnosis where they feel the need to participate in the clown show.

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I shouldn't have suggested that it doesn't matter. I just can't help watching the debates, the pundits' reactions, people on the internet losing their minds, at the same time knowing all the candidates and officials are plants, and thinking... how are people falling for this shit?

My cynicism goes a bit far I guess.

Its heavily rigged/ stacked but its not all a facade, it does matter and can be improved. I think trump actually is the obe who proved that when he successfully commited a hostile takeover of the republican party. Especially impressive when you consider he is not a career politician, unlike everyone else in DC. Unfortunately, he was doing it for his own benefit but he proved it to be possible