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Honestly, probably the late 40s and 50s. We led the world in almost every technology after Roswell in 47 or 48, whenever that was, it's been shit since.
Unless you mean people, in which case, most of our Civil Rights are still with issue. Second cunt officer got 2 years yesterday for violation of civil rights.
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I’m not a fan of conspiracy theories in general but the lead-up, event, and aftermath of 9/11 is still so hazy and unclear. It’s almost as if all the conspiracy theories surrounding it have been encouraged to keep it that way
Have you read the thread about my brothers?
Unless you mean people, in which case, most of our Civil Rights are still with issue. Second cunt officer got 2 years yesterday for violation of civil rights.
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I’m not a fan of conspiracy theories in general but the lead-up, event, and aftermath of 9/11 is still so hazy and unclear. It’s almost as if all the conspiracy theories surrounding it have been encouraged to keep it that way
Just saw these at Camp
Yeah, I hear the calls for the 1950s while Europe was still smoldering ruins and America’s factories were the schnitzel feeding world demand.
But that wasn’t quite American hegemony yet. American culture was still something of a global backwater. Hollywood hadn’t hit its stride. Of course then, the seeds were probably planted for its demise when corporate media power started to jack up the weaponry at the disposal of elites at the expense of the Murican plebs.
But I’d say the post-Berlin Wall and collapse of the USSR plus cultural hegemony of Cindy Crawford drinking Pepsi on TV in a wife-beater was quintessential American hegemony peak in the 1990s.
That’s still true. Made in Japan came to rule the American corporate paradigm by the 1960s as one of our economic “colonies” of cheap radioactive labor, only to be replaced by Taiwan, China, and every other sh*thole country on earth.
I second this. It bookended the post-USSR hegemony. And the irony being the damage wasn’t so much done from the outside as from within.
Interesting theory. I’m not sure I make the connection though. Maybe that Occupy went for elite access to money, failed, and so everyone instead turned to anti-white-dude tactics with the currency of victimization instead of the more direct eat-the-rich ethos because it was a softer target?
But identity politics even in the feminist movement rebelling against the voices of NY Jewish suburban women goes back to the 1960s. It wasn’t new, but it wasn’t critical mass either. It got radicalized on college campuses first, for sure. Evergreen State in Olympia, WA was like that even in the 70s, but how that became a national norm still puzzles me.
To clarify, the theory I heard states that Occupy movement was brought down by plants, allegedly feds, corp goons, or something, who turned up to Occupy protests and complained that all the leadership of the protests were white men. They were successful at sowing discord, changing the focus of one from economic inequality to identity politics from what was supposed to have been an egalitarian working class movement
injection of identity politics into popular culture has continued ever since as the primary method for "elites" to derail any similar movement from ever having the opportunity to actually challenge real power by turning the working class against itself.
Again not saying its true but I could very much see how promoting "racial justice" or "gender equality" could be easily exploited by a cynic to sow discord.
Pretty sure I heard a recently leaked Amazon memo had that listed as their #1 tactic to fight unionization efforts
injection of identity politics into popular culture has continued ever since as the primary method for "elites" to derail any similar movement from ever having the opportunity to actually challenge real power by turning the working class against itself.
Again not saying its true but I could very much see how promoting "racial justice" or "gender equality" could be easily exploited by a cynic to sow discord.
Pretty sure I heard a recently leaked Amazon memo had that listed as their #1 tactic to fight unionization efforts
FEMA camp?
Yeah, I hear the calls for the 1950s while Europe was still smoldering ruins and America’s factories were the schnitzel feeding world demand.
But that wasn’t quite American hegemony yet. American culture was still something of a global backwater. Hollywood hadn’t hit its stride. Of course then, the seeds were probably planted for its demise when corporate media power started to jack up the weaponry at the disposal of elites at the expense of the Murican plebs.
But I’d say the post-Berlin Wall and collapse of the USSR plus cultural hegemony of Cindy Crawford drinking Pepsi on TV in a wife-beater was quintessential American hegemony peak in the 1990s.
That’s still true. Made in Japan came to rule the American corporate paradigm by the 1960s as one of our economic “colonies” of cheap radioactive labor, only to be replaced by Taiwan, China, and every other sh*thole country on earth.
I second this. It bookended the post-USSR hegemony. And the irony being the damage wasn’t so much done from the outside as from within.
Interesting theory. I’m not sure I make the connection though. Maybe that Occupy went for elite access to money, failed, and so everyone instead turned to anti-white-dude tactics with the currency of victimization instead of the more direct eat-the-rich ethos because it was a softer target?
But identity politics even in the feminist movement rebelling against the voices of NY Jewish suburban women goes back to the 1960s. It wasn’t new, but it wasn’t critical mass either. It got radicalized on college campuses first, for sure. Evergreen State in Olympia, WA was like that even in the 70s, but how that became a national norm still puzzles me.
Yeah, I hear the calls for the 1950s while Europe was still smoldering ruins and America’s factories were the schnitzel feeding world demand.
But that wasn’t quite American hegemony yet. American culture was still something of a global backwater. Hollywood hadn’t hit its stride. Of course then, the seeds were probably planted for its demise when corporate media power started to jack up the weaponry at the disposal of elites at the expense of the Murican plebs.
But I’d say the post-Berlin Wall and collapse of the USSR plus cultural hegemony of Cindy Crawford drinking Pepsi on TV in a wife-beater was quintessential American hegemony peak in the 1990s.
That’s still true. Made in Japan came to rule the American corporate paradigm by the 1960s as one of our economic “colonies” of cheap radioactive labor, only to be replaced by Taiwan, China, and every other sh*thole country on earth.
I second this. It bookended the post-USSR hegemony. And the irony being the damage wasn’t so much done from the outside as from within.
Interesting theory. I’m not sure I make the connection though. Maybe that Occupy went for elite access to money, failed, and so everyone instead turned to anti-white-dude tactics with the currency of victimization instead of the more direct eat-the-rich ethos because it was a softer target?
But identity politics even in the feminist movement rebelling against the voices of NY Jewish suburban women goes back to the 1960s. It wasn’t new, but it wasn’t critical mass either. It got radicalized on college campuses first, for sure. Evergreen State in Olympia, WA was like that even in the 70s, but how that became a national norm still puzzles me.
Nice. Props for sharing this. The logic is pretty sound. It’s pretty much what landowners told poor whites during slavery: don’t ask for some of mine, just make sure you have more than them.
Identity politics would then essentially be an “olé!” bullfighter move by elites to divert the focus towards similar but unrelated targets.
Identity politics would then essentially be an “olé!” bullfighter move by elites to divert the focus towards similar but unrelated targets.
Absolutely this. And the kleptocrats in power are best served keeping it this way. I’ve had a few arguments with ID politics crazies that I know through climbing about just this. The endless attacks and vitriol against the white working class and middle class will lead to nothing good and just further the inability of the working class as a whole to make any progress. The corporate ruling class is more than happy to promote ID politics and affirmative action when it takes away from the pockets of and opportunities for the white working class as the means.
